Anonymous ID: 6f812d Oct. 17, 2018, 10:18 p.m. No.3517688   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7724

>>3517642

Now you are resorting to an ad hominem.

You didn't answer the question. What am I depriving you of in that question i asked you?

 

You said you have had IP "stolen" from you. Lets define the word.

 

take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

 

This implies that stealing is depriving you of something. What am I depriving you of by using my own materials to make an engineered doohicky you thought of?

Anonymous ID: 6f812d Oct. 17, 2018, 10:32 p.m. No.3517802   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7833 >>7924

>>3517724

>That's not how copyrights work. What am deprived of? My original ideas and the opportunity to profit from it. When another takes credit for the idea as though it were their own, there's a word for that: FRAUD. Its a crime.

 

You still have your original idea. I never wiped it from your mind. i never prevented you from profiting from it by using my own materials. I never claimed I said the doohicky design was my original idea. Where is the deception? I never said what I did with the doohicky.

 

>illegally accessing a HDD is intrusion and violates the HDD owners property.

 

But at the end of the day you don't have a right to profit. You do have a right to try to profit. And you profit by pleasing the customer in voluntary exchange. You are exchanging a service or an item for another item.

 

On the contrary enforcing IP laws prevents me from using my property how I wish, as long as it does not deprive others of their property rights.

 

Fraud : wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

Anonymous ID: 6f812d Oct. 17, 2018, 10:36 p.m. No.3517833   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3517802

Sorry phonefagging meant to say this as well.

 

>illegally accessing a HDD is intrusion and violates the HDD owners property

 

The person who accesses a HDD without permission is violating a property right of the HDD owner, and that is wrong.

Anonymous ID: 6f812d Oct. 17, 2018, 10:46 p.m. No.3517911   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3517837

Supply and demand. As the cost goes up, there will be less demand and more supply, all else being equal. Get the government out of healthcare and the consumer will decide what quality and how much it costs. And it's non of the Government's business anyway.

Anonymous ID: 6f812d Oct. 17, 2018, 10:51 p.m. No.3517942   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3517922

>then either a cartel is in operation or there is a lack of price transparency

 

You just described government enforced licensing schemes. such as doctors, engineers and teachers, to name but a few.

Anonymous ID: 6f812d Oct. 17, 2018, 11:04 p.m. No.3518018   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8074 >>8091

>>3517924

 

>Somewhere along the line an corporation takes your ideas, claim them as original ideas of their own making, manufactures or records or films, distributes, profits WELL, and you, the originator are given no credit whatsoever, therefore no profit.

 

That is a consequence. But just because the corporate entity or natural person uses my idea and their property to profit doesn't mean they deprived me of my idea. I still have it, and can do with it as I please. You are obscuring the argument.

 

The original argument boils down to the fact that I am saying that it is a logical inconsistency to believe in the right to do what you want with your property as long as it does not violate other's property rights. IP laws prevent others from doing what they want with their property.

 

And you are concerned about (((them))) rightfully so. However don't you see that their primary tool to enforcing their power is government? So why would you want to give government more power than it should have?

Anonymous ID: 6f812d Oct. 17, 2018, 11:20 p.m. No.3518104   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8110

>>3518074

You are dancing around your idea that you are entitled to profit.

 

Lets go back to square one. Physical property rights.

do you agree that you have the right to do what you want with things (physical items) that you wholly own, as long as you don't deprive others of their property rights?