Anonymous ID: 3e0c05 Oct. 31, 2018, 2:05 a.m. No.3673539   🗄️.is đź”—kun

Not Q related as such but a timely way to spread the message to some normies maybe?

 

https://jonmcnaughton.com/patriotic/the-empowered-man

https://twitter.com/McNaughtonArt/status/1051895709467848704

Anonymous ID: 3e0c05 Oct. 31, 2018, 2:26 a.m. No.3673587   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>3671 >>3731 >>3867 >>4009 >>4064

WORLD NEWSOCTOBER 31, 2018 / 12:42 AM / UPDATED 11 HOURS AGO

Italian police investigate human remains found at Vatican's Rome embassy

2 MIN READ

 

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Workers have discovered human bones at the Holy See Embassy to Italy and police are investigating the matter, the Vatican said on Tuesday.

 

Italian media said forensic scientists were looking to see if the remains might be those of Emanuela Orlandi, the 15-year-old daughter of a Vatican employee who vanished in 1983.

 

The Vatican said in a statement that the bone fragments were discovered during restructuring work on an annex to the Holy See’s imposing embassy compound near Rome’s famous Villa Borghese museum.

 

It said chief prosecutor Giuseppe Pignatone was leading the investigation and had tasked forensic specialists with determining the “age, sex and date of death” of the body.

 

Orlandi’s fate is one of the biggest mysteries in modern Italian history.

 

Her disappearance was initially linked to a possible attempt by unknown persons to win freedom for Mehmet Ali Agca, the Turkish gunman who shot Pope John Paul II in 1981 and was then serving a life sentence in an Italian jail.

 

In 2005, an anonymous caller to a television talk show said the secret to her kidnap was buried along with Enrico “Renatino” De Pedis, a mobster who once led the feared Magliana gang which terrorized Rome in the 1980s.

 

Police eventually opened his tomb in a Rome basilica in 2012 looking for clues but came up empty handed.

 

The Vatican statement made no mention of Orlandi.

 

Reporting by Crispian Balmer;editing by Diane Craft

 

Our Standards:The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-vatican-bones/italian-police-investigate-human-remains-found-at-vaticans-rome-embassy-idUSKCN1N42X3

Anonymous ID: 3e0c05 Oct. 31, 2018, 3:29 a.m. No.3673731   🗄️.is đź”—kun

>>3673587

in possible relation if these remains turn out to be Emanuela Orlandi this article from the Telegraph on 22 May 2012 might lead to further digging in light of recent scandals at the Vatican

Father Gabriele Amorth, who was appointed by the late John Paul II as the Vatican's chief exorcist and claims to have performed thousands of exorcisms, said Emanuela Orlandi was later murdered and her body disposed of.

 

In the latest twist in one of the Holy See's most enduring mysteries, he said the 15-year-old schoolgirl was snatched from the streets of central Rome in the summer of 1983 and forced to take part in sex parties.

 

"This was a crime with a sexual motive. Parties were organised, with a Vatican gendarme acting as the 'recruiter' of the girls.

 

"The network involved diplomatic personnel from a foreign embassy to the Holy See. I believe Emanuela ended up a victim of this circle," Father Amorth, the honorary president of the International Association of Exorcists, told La Stampa newspaper.

 

The debate over who kidnapped Emanuela and what became of her has raged in Italy for three decades.

 

It has been suggested that she was taken by the leader of a notorious gang of criminals, who wanted to put pressure on Vatican officials to recover money that he had allegedly lent them.

 

Another theory is that she was abducted to be used as a bargaining chip for the release from prison of Mehmet Ali Agca, the Turkish gunman who tried to kill John Paul II in St Peter's Square in 1981, reportedly on the orders of the KGB.

 

But Father Amorth, 85, dismissed the "international dimension", saying that a Vatican archivist had also come to the conclusion that Emanuela was abducted for sexual exploitation.

 

A controversial and outspoken priest, Father Amorth has claimed that yoga is Satanic because it leads to a worship of Hinduism and that the Harry Potter books are dangerous because they encourage children to believe in black magic and wizardry.

 

Earlier this month investigators opened the tomb of Enrico "Renatino" De Pedis, the gang leader, in order to check long-standing claims that the remains of the teenager were buried alongside him.

 

They found his remains inside the tomb in the Sant' Apollinare basilica in Rome and also, intriguingly, other bones in a crypt nearby.

 

Investigators said the unidentified bones probably dated from the early 19th century, but they are being analysed by forensic experts to see if any of them might belong to Emanuela.

 

In 2005, an anonymous caller to a crime programme on Italian TV claimed that the key to the schoolgirl's kidnap lay in the tomb of the mobster, who was gunned down by rival gangsters in 1990

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9283407/Emanuela-Orlandi-was-kidnapped-for-sex-parties-for-Vatican-police.html

Anonymous ID: 3e0c05 Oct. 31, 2018, 4:46 a.m. No.3673939   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>3947 >>4009 >>4064

more sauce for remains found near Vatican

 

Human remains have been discovered at a property in Rome owned by the Vatican in a potential breakthrough for police investigating one of Italy’s darkest mysteries.

 

Fragments of human bone were found during restoration work on the property next to the diplomatic office of the Holy See in Rome, the Vatican said in a statement on Tuesday.

Citing sources close to the investigation, the Italian news agency Ansa reported on Wednesday that the remains found during restoration work on the floor of the property could belong to two people. Workers are reported to have found an almost complete skeleton in one area and bone fragments in another.

 

A police investigation was under way to establish the age and gender of the remains and date of death. Media reports said the remains were discovered on Monday.

 

“Above all we need to established the period [of death] before we jump to conclusions,” Greg Burke, the Vatican’s spokesperson, told the Guardian.

 

“The [outcome of the investigation] isn’t anything that will be known in a few days, it will take some time.”

 

Detectives will be looking in particular at whether they are a DNA match for Emanuela Orlandi or Mirella Gregori, both of whom were aged 15 when they went missing separately in Rome within the space of 40 days in 1983.

 

Orlandi was the daughter of a member of the Vatican’s police, and was last seen on 22 June 1983 when leaving a music class.

 

Theories have circulated that the then 15-year-old was kidnapped by an organised crime gang to put pressure on Vatican officials to recover a loan.

 

Another claim was that she was taken to force the release from prison of Mehmet Ali Agca, the Turk who attempted to assassinate Pope John Paul II in 1981.

 

Her brother Pietro has been leading a decades-long campaign to find out what happened to her and has accused the Vatican of silence and even complicity in the case.

 

The Vatican has said on several occasions that it has cooperated with Italian police over the case.

 

However, Pietro Orlandi organised a sit-in manifestation in June, accusing the Vatican of “raising the wall even higher”.

 

“A few days after Emanuela disappeared, Monsignor Giovanni Battista Morandini told my dad that the State was concerned about the incident. and that it was suggested to plug the leak before it was too late. I think the decision to drop the investigation was a consequence of those words,” he said at the time.

 

The family’s lawyer, Laura Sgrò, said on Wednesday: “We’re waiting to understand the details of the discovery, such as when the bones were found, who found them…gradually we should understand better what happened.

 

“The family’s hope is that [the remains belong to Emanuela], for so long we have fought a battle to bring her home.”

 

Gregori disappeared exactly 40 days before Orlandi. Her mother says Gregori answered the intercom at the family apartment before telling her parents it was a school friend and she was going out to speak to him. She never returned.

 

Investigators have not ruled out that the cases could be connected.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/31/remains-found-in-vatican-property-spark-hopes-of-solving-35-year-mystery