Anonymous ID: a10b11 Feb. 14, 2018, 2:35 p.m. No.376671   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6688 >>6774 >>7014

Here's an educated guess on why the Vietnamese PM wanted to meet with a foreign supreme court justice (this in itself is weird - he usually only meets foreign PMs/presidents for photo-ops).

 

The biggest LEGAL question in Vietnam at that time was the legality of Vietnam's claims to the Spratly and Paracel Islands, which are also claimed by China. Remember the whole business about China building artificial islands out of the reefs and atolls there? It was starting then and continuing now.

 

China argues, with some reason, that Vietnam relinquished its claim to the Spratlys and Paracels in 1958, when North Vietnamese PM Pham Van Dong acknowledged in writing Chinese suzerainty over the islands:

 

https:// commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1958_diplomatic_note_from_phamvandong_to_zhouenlai.jpg

 

The North Vietnamese did this, reluctantly, because they owed China a large war debt from the Viet Minh's war against colonial France. Because the North Vietnamese didn't have enough cash or gold to pay the red Chinese, China wanted payment in opium/heroin from the Laotian poppy fields (which were controlled for many years by the Viet Minh and their Pathet Lao puppets). However, by 1958 the CIA had taken control of the Laotian poppy fields and the North Vietnamese had neither cash nor gold nor drugs with which to pay the Chinese. So, they paid by way of relinquishing claim to the Spratlys and Paracels.

 

In recent years, communist Vietnam (i.e. today's “Socialist Republic of Vietnam”) has made a creative argument to justify continued claims to islands and disavowing its 1958 communique. The justification is: In 1958, there were “two Vietnams” (North and South). And because the Spratlys and Paracels were claimed by South Vietnam all the way until its demise in 1975, and never reliquished by South Vietnam, therefore by virtue of the communist victory over South Vietnam in 1975, the islands now belong to the united “Socialist Republic of Vietnam”.

 

This is odd because, in every other circumstance, the Hanoi government has claimed that South Vietnam was an illegitimate junta, not a country, and that none of its diplomatic agreements carry any weight today.

 

I wonder whether Ginsburg was being consulted about how to explain this circuitous reasoning to the world, especially to the Chinese. Perhaps, the Vietnamese PM was asking Ginsburg for the USA's support of its rather curious reasoning about why its 1958 diplomatic decision should be voided. The cabal has many reasons for not wanting China to control the Spratlys and Paracels. These reasons have nothing to do with oil rights (the cover story) and not very much to do with shipping lanes. If you want to know why the Spratlys and Paracels are so valuable, you need to learn something about undersea bases, including those which exist from deep antiquity in Earth's history. That, my fellow anons, is a story for another day…

Anonymous ID: a10b11 Feb. 14, 2018, 2:37 p.m. No.376688   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>376671

I should have noted that in 1958, Pham Van Dong was not yet the prime minister (he took this position later). In 1958 North Vietnam was of course led by Chairman Ho Chi Minh. But the 1958 decision to hand the Spratlys and Paracels had to have had Ho's approval.

Anonymous ID: a10b11 Feb. 14, 2018, 3:11 p.m. No.376990   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>376774

David Griffin has done some good work on this issue. Chris D., the guy from RAND in South Africa of "Chinese Briefcases" and "CHANI quantum computer" fame, also had information on it. Also Harald Kautz-Vella.

 

Look at the legend of "Lac Long Quan and Au Co" from Vietnamese history. It's a tale of people who were not-exactly-human visiting North Vietnam around 4000 to 5000 years ago. As the legend goes, when they departed, they didn't get beamed up to a starship; they went out to the South China Sea and disappeared under the waves… but promising to return one day.

 

The legend matches up nicely with information coming out of exopolitical studies today based on leaked govt docs, testimony from mil/intel sources, etc.

Anonymous ID: a10b11 Feb. 14, 2018, 3:19 p.m. No.377080   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>377014

Another piece of the puzzle could be that just a few weeks before Ginsburg's visit, rivals in the Vietnamese government killed their own defence minister, Phung Quang Thanh, while he was visiting France.

 

Thanh was thought to be on the Chinese payroll and blocking robust Vietnamese attempts to keep control of the islands.

 

https:// tuoitrenews.vn/politics/29320/vietnam-dismisses-report-of-defense-ministers-death