>>148761 ←- there
my problem with this idea is that if it would be true, then it's a loop, because i've seen this before, and if it is true then it will happen again and in that case meh, "roth" and "pope" in your scenario will still exist when all is said and done, and one day we will forget about the game we once played and eventually they will suggest it again, and we will fall for it again, then what?