Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:24 p.m. No.3858065   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8244 >>8392 >>8453

don't get me wrong, we need bosses, but they should work for the employees. The employees should hire their own bosses to do the paperwork, make schedules, purchasing, etc… but the citizens who work for that business should set their pay. We don't need owners who do nothing but own shit. Give back the land to the people and end gentrification. it is called anarcho syndicalism. worker owned capitalist business.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:25 p.m. No.3858092   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8179 >>8332 >>8412

everyone has a problem with socialism except for socialized police force, fire, and military. Why don't we want socialized medicine? I don't think I am going to stand in line waiting for care. My sister lives in europe and she gets great medical care for her and the kids. IT IS THE LIE THEY TELL US TO KEEP THE MONEY FLOWING.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:27 p.m. No.3858105   🗄️.is 🔗kun

it's all about the money. not about the jews. it is about taking control of our multi-national corporations and not viewing it as socialism/communism. THAT IS THE LIE THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:28 p.m. No.3858131   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8682

People are not helpless against the storm. While the winds howl, the thunder rages, and the waters rise, people can find shelter when they act together in the face of collapsing economies and ecological crises. Shelter can take the form of robust mutual aid networks and solidarity economies by which people empower and support one another to sustain themselves outside the constraints of the capitalist system.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:29 p.m. No.3858143   🗄️.is 🔗kun

The specifics of a solidarity economy vary based upon those participating and the resource-landscapes of particular areas. But the focus should always be on creating communities of sharing and mutuality. Such communities are not based in charity, or simply giving things away for free.

 

They present, rather, a way for people to use their talents and skills — regardless of economic worth — to build social bonds that subvert the way capitalism has warped and colonized our human relationships.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:29 p.m. No.3858147   🗄️.is 🔗kun

In constructing a solidarity economy, it is always prudent to reach out to local organizations and see what sort of meaningful work can be done for them in exchange for what they, in turn, can provide for you. Even people who have never heard of mutual aid will understand it on a fundamental level. Against private accumulation and self-interested gain, we advocate the communal support of life, the reciprocal donation of resources, and the passing-along of good will across space and time. Starting a conversation about mutual aid with friends and partners can create a space in which to challenge the relation of their work to the constraints of paternalistic State and well-meaning 1% donors.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:29 p.m. No.3858154   🗄️.is 🔗kun

The powers that be are counting on our efforts to construct alternative economies to founder, especially since the current system has made us feel isolated and alone in the face of crises. Debtors are encouraged to think that they failed, individually, to fulfill their promises, even though going into unpayable debt is a structural condition of life under capitalism. Tenants feel they must acquiesce to the negligence of the landlord. Consumers think they must buy into an endlessly developing energy economy based on the burning of fossil fuels. Workers imagine themselves in a perpetual competition to work harder and for less against their fellows at home and abroad in the name of economic growth.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:32 p.m. No.3858192   🗄️.is 🔗kun

You have to see the lies you have been told about our economy and currency. The dollar is not the flag and it is not even backed by anything. It is a fiat currency. There are better, more democratic ways to structure the INSTITUTION OF THE CORPORATION, while still allowing small business to thrive. For example, local grocery stores could buy at wholesale prices from wal-mart cause they would no longer be in direct competition.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:35 p.m. No.3858234   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8281

If we owned our corporations collectively, the price of goods would go DOWN, not up. We can drive our own prices down because it is in our interest to keep them low, create unified distribution networks, and we can make everything local/environmentally friendly/healthy without waiting on wal-mart to tell us it is about consumer demand. WE HAVE TO MAKE IT ABOUT CITIZEN DEMAND. Stakeholds not shareholders! People before profit! The myth of competition is a lie, otherwise you would be in competition with your significant other. Cooperation is always more potent for the price of goods and efficiency.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:39 p.m. No.3858296   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3858281

I am not a 'comrade'. I am a Patriot who doesn't need zuckerberg running facebook. I could do that shit better and I wouldn't take all your money and privacy doing it

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:41 p.m. No.3858321   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8344

The problem is that corporations are legally bound to produce shareholder profit when they should be legally bound to produce stakeholder profit. BIG difference, especially since most of us are not stock owners, or shareholders. But we all have a stake in the actions of multi-national corporations.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:44 p.m. No.3858370   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8413 >>8717

>>3858332

I am not advocating for socialism. Are you in competition with your neighbors? No, you are cooperating. You are not owned and enslaved by a cabal. Socialism, or government owned/run/centrally planned economies fail. But decentralized, worker owned collectives have proven to be successful, like farming co-ops. You don't call a farmers co-op socialism, it is cooperative. The common goal is to produce and sell your goods externally.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:46 p.m. No.3858402   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3858344

No it is, that is a lie you are being told. Google anarcho syndicalism. It is capitalist, competitive etc, but at the end of the day would produce more wealth for the worker if any society/city/state was mature enough to operate this way.

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:47 p.m. No.3858426   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3858344

No it is, that is a lie you are being told. Google anarcho syndicalism. It is capitalist, competitive etc, but at the end of the day would produce more wealth for the worker if any society/city/state was mature enough to operate this way. >>3858392

>>3858392

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:54 p.m. No.3858530   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8570

>>3858453

Okay. then stay a slave. not my problem. The incentive is your have a passion that isn't the generate wealth. same thing for management. you should do it because you are passionate about business ownership or management, they should be the starving artist of the future

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:57 p.m. No.3858582   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>3858453

very cool. I just think alternative currency or bartering, even timebanking are good ways to take our money/lives back from the cabal. What is going to happen to all their $$$ when they goto gitmo?

Anonymous ID: f517a0 Nov. 11, 2018, 3:59 p.m. No.3858604   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8634

>>3858570

I guess the one calling me a socialist lol. I am far from a socialist. You are just buying the line that the rich want you to buy. Google anarcho syndicalism. I will live in that world and out-compete you in standard capitalist environment ANY DAY