Anonymous ID: 6d0194 Part1 Feb. 16, 2018, 3 a.m. No.395595   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5610 >>5616 >>6015

>>395571

My takes on some of this-

>>388588

>Why is everything 'really' made in China?

>Cost savings?

 

Q says expand you thinking. We The People are told costs by our “employers” as they ship our jobs overseas. Another excuse is “global competition”. In terms of classic economic and business models this is true, but only part of the story. So I will try to expand my thinking globally, while using the classic “follow the money, follow who benefits”

 

Who benefits from things made in China? The Chinese! They keep their people under control in horrid work conditions. Can’t kick up a fuss if you are tired all the time, and at least fed. Chinese factories work 24X7, even the workers live in factory towns. The famous “apple factory suicide net”. You are not allowed to even check out. Your death is controlled.

 

Yes cost- China isn’t leftist, nor is it green, or Union. China allows for industrial era pollution w/o regulations and restrictions. China uses coal. The consumers of the goods in the USA don’t have to live with the filth. As far as the Chinese, have you ever heard or seen of a civil suit filed by Chinese for health issues? Have you ever heard of anyone suing the Chinese and WINNING? China does not have a welfare state. So all the lefties at the FGAM sillycon valley types can buy their stuff and not be force to confront their hypocrisy. “Green” is an illusion. Global warming is a farce. But China doesn’t “pay” for global warming. Only certain nations pay for global warming. The UN wins with wealth Transfer and Al Gore wins by getting wealthy.

 

China gets free education and free systems and products to reverse engineer. I met a US guy in the textile manufacturing business in India. He said if you ever want your manufacturing business to go under, he said manufacture your goods in China. They will steal you blind. They run the factory 24X7 but you don’t get the full runs. They take the extra runs made with your factory and undercut you. You go bankrupt and China gets a cutting edge textile factory.

 

Who also wins?

World wide shipping and distribution. They win bigly. Who is big in WW shipping? Maersk, China, Germany, SA….hmmm

https:// moverdb.com/shipping-companies/

https:// www.ship-technology.com/features/featuremega-shippers-the-worlds-10-biggest-shipping-companies-4518689/

 

What is shipped in containers? Recent news says..humans. Who checks a Saudi Arabian shipping ship in an Arab port? Hmmm.

Anonymous ID: 6d0194 part 2 Feb. 16, 2018, 3:01 a.m. No.395596   🗄️.is 🔗kun

I could write a book on telecommunications tech and the Great China Ripoff ™.

Sauce is sadly anecdotal, but there is a timeline. But back around the Bell breakup (1984) how many US or North American telecom companies existed? You had AT&Ts lauded Bell Labs, Westinghouse, Rockwell Int’l, ADC, Motorola, NORTEL, LUCENT, GE, DNC, etc. Silicon valley yeah, we HAD the Telecom Corridor. Also CISCO and Juniper. The big tech was fiber optics, Cellular phones, IP, and computerization. The USA was THE dominant global leader in telecommunications (an envy of any nation) but the industry was subsequently dismantled and given away to everyone else but the USA.

 

It started going downhill with the sale of BellLabs to SAIC (We know who SAIC is and who their customer is). Do know that the Chinese came in and bought the tech papers that bell labs had for cheap, and Belllabs under SAIC, in their effort to turn profit sold everything they could. The Chinese bought equipment from AT&T, CISCO, Nortel, etc, and reverse engineered it.

 

It was no secret to those in telecommunication that the Chinese ripped you off and spied. At USA tech conventions the Chinese blatantly violated the no cameras rules, and no officials would stop them. Products and blades got stolen. (Asian companies like Fujitsu were wiser to this type of operation; they had armed guards to thwart the Chinese). In the 1990s it was no secret that Huawei had a back door on their routers and muxes that sent data back to China. This was so well known in US telecom circles that there was dark humor jokes about it, and how suing the Chinese was laughable. The 1990s folks!!!! Wrote my reps on it, was told in a nice way to FOAD and be a good little sheep.

 

But fast forward to 2018, and it is laughable seeing congress critters bringing this issue forward after the damage was done to countless family’s, industries, investors, and communities over DECADES. All that US talent left to drift, it all went someplace else or imploded in depression. New Jersey lost BellLabs/AT&T/Westinghouse. Texas Telecom corridor, gutted. Over a million Americans dreams dashed!. I am one of them. My job got offshored. I want revenge, it is personal.

 

So why was the US govt and SAIC (See Eye Aye) so hot to kill this industry? And how does my long story relate to China?

 

[TLDR]

 

-So far- china gets jobs to control their people and increase their wealth. They modernize.

-China gets tech

-China gets back doors to all the data. Your data, my data, industrial data, politician data, and govt data.

-China also gets control of the number 1 strategic asset we have, the networks. The US Network.

-China has all the manufacturing to win a world wide war.

-The USA gets demoralized.

-USA kids watch their parents lose their so called stable jobs. They do not go into Tech. This opens more H1bs. Older workers get fired and replaced with younger cheaper foreigners or foreign contractors. Pensions avoided by corps, older US folks impoverished. Politicians do nothing. Globalists winning.

-USA families break under massive unemployment, foreclosures.

-USA has to pay more in benefits. Kids drop out of college.

-local areas see their tax revenue decline, and supporting small business fail as these bigger companies fail. Local area declines. I watched it happen.

 

Let’s look at AT&T. They have to do what the govt says, regulated utility to a degree. Been inside AT&T lately? It’s not that “great American company”. It’s a SJW’s dream. The entire tech side is disproportionately Muslims, Indians, and Chinese. The majority of workers are “contractors” and many are overseas in India/Pakistan/Brno, etc. Tech Mahindra, Infosys run the software, test it, store the data, and does the engineering. What does India know? How could the US quickly control the network for security reasons? In short, our communications infrastructure can be taken over or monitored by bad actors globally, and there is no way to find them, and they know how it works compared to the skeleton crew of US citizens on the job. India is closer to China, how hard would be for China to take out Bangalore/Hyderabad/”Tech City”. Huawei is in Bangalore- it’s all connected. Indians are easily bribed, the Chinese also see bribes as a business expense. China can get anything it wants tech wise from India. Isn’t offshoring wonderful if you are a globalist!

 

-China controls the network. China absolutely controls the networks. ALL Networks: data, IP, Cellular, Fiber., radio.. The Chinese have satellites too. Not a prob for an Indian hacker to moonlight and access comm sats.

 

Why is POTUS focused on SA/CHINA/RUSSIA?

WHY???????????

They are the major powers.

SA still has a financial stake in the media. The petrodollar.

China can take us out. China has access to data from the network.

Russia because of the crimes.