>>4021119

Sorry, I haven't been around to continue on my thought. I was chasing the lead that I mentioned. By the way, the answer to my question I posed is a feature called "Tidal Locking".

http://www.everythingselectric.com/moons-locked/

I knew it was important. However, I didn't fuly understand the significance until a few days ago. I'm DEEP into this rabbit hole. We're about to get into a quite a few symbols, myths and archetypes!!

I've been aware that are still some unanswered questions regarding the polar configuration. It seems like even the folks over at Thunderbolts Project were having some trouble figuring out a few details. I don't think they were trying to hide anything, but there are some intense scars on the face of planet Earth that weren't getting enough attention. Probably because it would scare the heck out of people if they thought that it was something that could happen again. I first noticed the scale back in July, and it's been haunting me ever since. So, I made it a point to revisit this back in November.

I'm fairly new to the Thunderbolts Project, but I grasp the concepts pretty well. I've actually reached several of their conclusions, independently. Usually when I would check to see if there was any info out there to back my claims, I would find a link to someone in the Electric Universe community. Which is how I became a fan in the first place (Believe it or not, I actually first bumped into a Wal Thornhill video when I was trying to find info to explain to people how and why the Earth wasn't flat). Anyway, I finally came across someone who saw what I see. His name is Michael Steinbacher. Unfortunately, he passed away back in 2015. He had a great eye for spotting these large features (probably because he was a photographer). One of his last requests was to revisit Velikovsky's work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDbDMlEWIIY

Personally, Velikovsky has been stuck in the back of my mind ever since I first read it, over a dozen years ago. His method was to observe all the evidence, including mythology, and make BOLD predictions. Dave Talbot used such methods to reach his conclusion of the polar configuration. I will also use such methods here to explain something so outrageous, it might just make complete sense!!

In between now and my last post, I've made it a point to learn more about the physics behind the Electromagnetic Force. So, I may not have fully understood why the tidal locking feature was important. However, It will play a critical role in supporting my claims. This may have been the very event that caused the polar configuration in the first place. Honestly, we need some sort of catalyst to wind up in such an alignment, and that has yet to be discovered by the Thunderbolts crew. However, you'll need to at least be familiar with their work in order to understand what it is I will be presenting here.

I have not come across this hypothesis anywhere else, and as far as I can tell, this is a completely new idea. I'm bringing it here because this is OurStory. I'm going to need a few comments to relay all of the information. I hope Q understands why I've had to put the politics on hold until I get this message across. This is BIG!!

Since you brought up the petroglyphs, I'll post this video from Anthony Peratt. There seems to be a pattern he had noticed. The very first petroglyphs pointed to the south. This is a huge clue, for a number of reasons. For starters, it gives a reference to the sequence of events. Obviously, it was something BIG, since it was so important that the people would record such an event. Next, in regards to the polar configuration, if Saturn was in the North, that means SOMETHING was in the South. Also, in order for the petroglyphs to line up in such a manner, it would mean that the continents were, most likely, in a similar positions to where they are today. While you might not fully understand the significance of that last part, yet, I assure you it is an important piece of the puzzle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6meaU1QcSdA

Building off my previous posts.

>>4011529

>>4703846

Pictures on pause because this video is important!! We have a verified evidence that supports a link between the water on Earth and the planet Saturn. I've actually come across this information a few years back and was having trouble finding the link which I originally read back in 2016, I believe. It may have got scrubbed, but I really don't know. That does happen a lot where one study will report it's findings, then a later study will back the claims, or dispute. Either way, that's not important because we have this, now. Here's the link, which prompted the video.

https://phys.org/news/2018-12-saturn-satellites-earth-moon-phoebe.html

So, basically there's a chemical signature in our water. Hydrogen is composed of one proton and one electron, no neutron. Deuterium does have that neutron, which in turn gives the atom more mass (this is why they refer to it as "Heavy Water"). Overall, Deuterium behaves in a similar fashion as Hydrogen would, and an Oxygen atom doen't care what's in the nucleus, as long as there's a free electron to hook up with. Different environments will have different amounts of Deuterium and Hydrogen available, which leads to a "signature" in the water.

Scientists have been "puzzled" and "perplexed" about the origins of the water found on Earth. If you don't believe me, search the topic. Too much to get into here. The point is, there is a distinct connection between the water on Earth and the water surrounding the planet Saturn. In reality, it's just another one of many "coincidences" that links the two planets.

Now, there's obviously a lot more to the story, since Saturn is pretty far away. The Polar Configuration touches on the subject of how we may have got from Point A to Point B. There are several catastrophic accounts that can be found in every culture and religion from around the world. They will help explain this. The symbols are going to come into play, as well. The Thunderbolts Project is still building on their theories, and Wal even addresses this in another recent video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fjcPguafug

This isn't the first time he has talked about "Proto-Saturn". I'm going to build upon this situation further. I'm pretty sure I'm sitting on a significant piece of the puzzle, and I want to get it out to you all, rather than sit and wait to publish this or whatever. I'm not here to promote anything. However, I do give some props along the way.

So, Wal mentions what life would be like on Earth during these times of intense flaring of the dwarf star, Saturn. I don't think it was nearly as bad as some may think. I'm going to prove that is possible. Saturn ruled during the time of the Golden Age. How could that be possible if the star was flaring up in such a violent fashion? There is a logical solution, and you have to take several things into account.

https://www.space.com/42196-red-dwarf-star-hazflare-bad-news-life.html

I'm glad to see that there are a lot of ancient megalithic ruins on this thread. I've looked at them a lot. One of the more perplexing things we encounter is the largest size blocks on the bottom. Also, the old stuff does look pretty technologically advanced, too. So, the question I have to ask to Giorgio Tsukalos, "Did the Aliens suddenly get smaller?" OR. . . "Were the people larger, exposed to less Gravity (which makes the blocks lighter, btw), and living as an advanced race for quite some time, before a series of catastrophic events, which resulted in eventual loss of this technology and a dramatic change to the cosmic environment?". I know it's a mouthful, but it makes more sense when you think about it.

First off, on top of our DNA's ability to adapt to different environments, on the fly (Look up Epigenetics), a flaring Saturn would have exposed life to some intense radiation. This would speed up the process of "evolution". I'll get further into the details in another post. Basically, anywhere the conditions are right for life, it's going to come to be. "Consider the vastness of Space". Even if our race was created by aliens, the aliens would have to be alive, therefore. . . It's just how things work. Life is. From the looks of things, Life has been on this planet for awhile. At one point in time it was Larger. If humans existed alongside dinosaurs, it would be logical to conclude they, too, would be bigger under such conditions. We see evidence to support the claim. We here myths about giants. That's not really why I'm here today, but I'm just saying. . .

Continuing the EU catastrophic geology for a second, before returning to the overall story.

>>4707281

At the bottom of the first image of the Eastern half of the USA, you can see that bowl shape feature at the base of the Appalachian Mountains. The clouds cut it out a bit, it's there. See for yourself. It looks like the Mountains surge forth right out of the ground, at the precise location of where the discharge is expected to occur in that type of magnetic structure. To put it bluntly, THERE WAS A SHIT TON OF CURRENT FLOWING THROUGH THE EARTH!!!

Anyway, it's not exclusive to one region. You'll see it on every CONTINENT. It even affects the weather! I know you may think that weather is shaping the land, but it's actually the other way around. When the current shut off, many of these larger features were "frozen" into the Earth. Believe it or not, electricity has the ability to alter chemistry, which should make sense when you realize that Plasma is basically a bunch of free protons and electrons, and electricity is just the flow of electrons. It might sound scary at first to think about this amount of current flowing through the ground. I was incredibly happy to find Michael Steinbacher's work because he saw this. Just listen :' )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVfNyNr_O4M

I've been going back to discover more of his work. I get the feeling that this topic was kind of a GIANT elephant in the room. He wanted the EU community to address this, and I think some of the others were afraid to because they weren't quite sure of the cause. This scale is insane, and it's not exactly the thing you want to bring up if you don't know the answer to the question. Steinbacher wanted to revisit Velikovsky, thinking the cause was Venus (I already shared a spoiler alert). Michael's last presentation at the EU convention was presented by another guy, while Michael was in the hospital. There were some awkward parts, to say the least. This was the final interview he did. I don't think this was out of bad blood or anything. It sounds to me like he just wanted some answers and the others genuinely didn't know. . .

http://www.gunsandbutter.org/blog/2015/07/15/plasma-catastrophist-geology

I'll give you another video of Steinbacher's where he explains what he sees in this rather larger feature in along the coast of Namibia, called Brandberg Massif. I went to the spot on the map. Scrolling to the North East a bit, I found a mountain range. This bears a striking similarity to braided plasma filaments. So, I followed the feature further into the continent, where eventually I reach what I can only describe as a MASSIVE shock wave that was released. This should give you an glimpse into some of the things that people like Steinbacher and myself are seeing and trying to describe to the rest of (you)s. . . Rest in Peace, Michael. . . Gone but not forgotten :' )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKPLFQCd6Ao

So, my ID has changed but I'll try to link everything together at the end for ease. Continuing on from-

>>4707281

>>4708443

So, I'm going to reveal another symbol to start this next post since I've already talked about the high intensity current that was flowing through the Earth. Time to talk about Janus, the divider. The question I've been asking myself is, "How fast could Pangaea actually have split apart??". . .

When you start to take the legends into account, there is quite a few similarities with this idea of a "Golden Age". I don't think it was just the "Cosmic Mountain" that Dave Talbot was talking about. Also, you do see similar features in those advanced polygonal megalithic building block techniques. That's one heck of a coincidence for cultures to develop that independently.

I can think of at least one story that comes to mind from the Bible. In Genesis, early on, it talks about how after the flood the Earth was divided (See Genesis 10:32 and 11-1). I'm going to mirror that to the myth about Atlantis. I could go on with more, but that should give you an idea of where we're at in the timeline.Now, the BILLION dollar question is, "How in the ____ did it habben?" (: I'll be explaing this shortly ;)

First, we have to address something about the fossil records. There are special circumstances that have to exist for any creature to be preserved via fossilization. In order to explain the change in chemical composition, scientists require "millions of years" to explain this. However, if you look around the web, or if you've ever encountered Michael Cremo's work, you will find a ton of things that make you think, "WTF is going on?". . .

First off, I will state that sometimes chemical reactions are responsible, and environments will always play a role in the process. Having said that, I do think the concept of electrical transmutation should be considered when taking things into account. Instant fossilization ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vOMGQTjW9k

I've already proposed that the current was flowing through the Earth. Take that into account, apply it to the plant and animal life that, which give the dates for the Super-Continent of Pangaea. Suddenly, it doesn't sound so outrageous to have that giant landmass in the not so distant past.

Two more things I'd like to point out. First, if you consider how far the plates are actually moving in modern times, they would even have moved a mile in the last 12,000 years. Second, scientist don't really have an answer to why the Earth's plates are moving to begin with. It's one of the more unique features of this planet. Now, think about what the Earth may have looked like during the time of Pangaea. If all the land was on one side, where would the water be??

Continuing on from

>>4709084

As you can see from that map of Mars, most of the ocean would wind up in the Northern Hemisphere. If You take a look at the moon. The features are similar to Mars only the lower elevation is observed on the "Near-side" of the moon. This is where things get really interesting in regards to "Celestial Mechanics".

If you only take Gravity into account in the equation, it would take billions of years for two bodies to become tidally locked in such a fashion. When you consider the Electromagnetic Force.., and how powerful that is, something like this can happen MUCH faster. Trust me, I've did my homework. This is Physics.

I'm not here to talk about the moon, though. What I'm pointing out is that, first off, tidal locking is a common feature we observe within our own Solar System. Second, the "shallow" side of the moon is the side that faces Earth. It wobbles a little, but there are forces at play which keep the Near-side of the moon facing Earth at all times. I just want to point that out. There are certain geologic features we observe, that appear in our relationship with our tidally locked moon.

Now, with Mars, it's the shallow side in the Northern Hemisphere. And when you think about how the mechanics would work, since Mars is not tidally locked to any celestial body at the time, it makes sense for the balance to occur in such a way. However, if Mars was tidally locked to another celestial body at some point in the past, it would be reasonable to at least consider that "shallow" side may have faced whatever larger celestial body it was locked, too. Remember which pole was facing Saturn in the Polar configuration?? Santa lives at the North Pole :)

Now, I'm going to take a leap of faith and consider the possibility that perhaps the Earth was also a tidally locked body in the past. The features are there when you consider that super-continent, Pangaea. Just saying. . . You ready for it?? I've been building this up all morning :) What if the planets which were orbiting Saturn during the time of those intense flares of a red dwarf star.., were tidally locked in such a manner that only one side of the planet would be exposed to flares???

Right away, something JUMPS out at me. What would the people living on the one side of the Earth think? I'll have to get deeper into the details later (we're going to talk about "Sea Serpents"), but I have to point out two more things to end this post. First, water absorbs radiation really well, so it would help filter the exposure if life where to exist throughout such an environment. Also, we observe strong magnetic fields in these flaring red dwarf stars. So, this idea is not that far-fetched as it may sound.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star

I've got one last post in me, before I have to take a break. I've already made it this far. I really want to get this next part out to you all. building off everything I've said, so far…

>>4709726

So.., perhaps the people of Earth were actually living on this Pangaea landmass for quite some time, tidally locked to a flaring red dwarf star. Then one day that system came in contact with a body like Neptune. As Neptune approached the system, the Earth happened to be the closest body in between Saturn and Neptune. As Neptune approached, it would probably cause some wobbling for our tiny little Earth. At some point it would get close enough to lock onto Earth, electromagnetically, but the two bodies don't collide. Instead, Neptune continues on it's course, and Earth now gets caught up in an intense match of tug-of-war between to much larger celestial bodies. (: For the record, I am taking physics into account, throughout this entire process ;)

https://youtu.be/TJGRatHJgEI?t=1197

I've been trying to take EVERYTHING into account. This is the only logical explanation I was able to come up with. There are too many coincidences to ignore. I'll point out that nobody has ever came up with any idea as to HOW the polar configuration was triggered to begin with. If it did happen, we need some kind of catalyst. This encounter may have been what triggered such an event. On a side note, this could also work with Uranus in the mix, and through an effect similar to Newton's Cradle may explain how the first 4 bodies fell in line, with the last in the chain continuing momentum.

I shouldn't have to link anything, since it's fairly well known that Neptune is often referred to as the god of the sea. This would make a ton of sense if were the celestial body that split apart a the great continent of Pangaea, exposing several new sections of land to to large bodies of water. It also makes sense about the myth of Atlantis "falling into the sea". Imagine being in the middle of a large landmass, which essentially made up the entire known world, then suddenly a third of the land started drifting away, eventually off into the horizon, as a large body of water suddenly appeared, all the while there were unfathomably large earthquakes and volcanoes amidst the stress being exerted upon the planet. Are things starting to make sense??

As Neptune started to move away from the Earth, it began to pull. Saturn wasn't going to give up. Neptune was locked onto the land (it looks to me like it's initial target may have been Africa, but it wound up tugging on Antarctica on it's way out. If I had to guess, I would say that Saturn grabbed a hold of the Americas, as the Earth was wobbling about. The further away Neptune moved, the more intense of a force the Earth would have experienced. This wouldn't have been a fun time for life on Earth.

Anyone who survived would be sure to make note of the experience, which is exactly what we see. Going back to the very first petroglyphs, all pointing to an event in the south. I'm proposing that event was pointing to the body Neptune, as it was departing after one of the most events that our planet will ever have to endure. For the inhabitants of the Northern hemisphere, the would have not only had to live through such a traumatic event in the Earth being ripped in half, but now they were also staring at a large celestial body (Saturn), for the first time in their lives, fixated in the north pole, after it "rose from the sea". By the way, due to the polar configuration, with Mars in between, it would have the appearance of a giant "eye in the sky" and the overall experience gives some solid input about where the concept of "Judgement Day" originates. . .

Sorry, but I misread somethings. Shortly after posting this I had a bit of a revelation. . .

>>4710659

I think I'm dead on with this tidally locked Pangaea concept.I revisited Genesis Chapter 1 the other day. Originally, I was laughing about the similarity to Flat Earth depictions, but then I started reading the Words. "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters". There's your first clue about the True Nature of God.., for real!

Very interesting things happen when you have an arrangement as I've been describing. Left undisturbed, having Pangaea Earth tidally locked to a flaring red dwarf would be an ideal set up for Life. The water would shield from flares and limit our exposure to the otherwise deadly radiation. These are actually ideal conditions for Life to develop. That whole part about dividing the waters above from the waters below is legit. Yes, there would be a "firmament". The waters below would be pretty gnarly! Especially, on the surface. Pretty much the whole first few Chapters can be read, with an incredible amount of significance if you know what it is you are looking at. Anyways, there is a weakness in this setup, which is why I said, "left undisturbed".

I started to think more about the actual physics involved, and that's when it hit me like a Cosmic Thunderbolt! Lightning doesn't just appear out of the sky. The conditions have to be right. Several things factor into the equation. Distance is really important! If Earth was the furthest orbiting satellite of red dwarf, Saturn, and our planet would be the most likely object to experience an electric discharge event. Here's where things get interesting for "Life on Earth".

So, remember the set up. Think about how our moon has one side facing us at all times and we never see the "far side" of the moon. The near side is shallow, and in the case of Pangaea Earth, that would be the side with the ocean. Meaning "our side", the part with the land, would have been the closet to the approach, thus the most likely to experience a cosmic lightning bolt… And this is what happened :) for six straight "Days". Prior to that there was nothing visible in the sky, because we were shrouded mist, from the intense radiation evaporating the waters on the other side of the planet. In this case, a "Day" wouldn't have been like anything we experience in our "Day". These "Days" occurred as Earth continued it's orbit around Saturn. As it reached the nearest point with every revolution, there would be a discharge, "As God spoke". However, before going into arc mode, the plasma would glow as we drew ever closer, brightening our sky, like the "Dawn of a new day". On the opposite end, after the discharge, we would still experience enough excitement to see a glowing sky, until eventually moving far enough for the plasma to return to "Dark mode" (that's basically what our atmosphere is: Plasma in dark mode. There's gas, but there's also free charge floating around in the mix. Thank Q!!).

So, Event 1 was a close brush with another planet or satellite that lasted six revolutions around Saturn, before reaching a safe enough distance, thus no further arcing. The way this event was set up is interesting. I might have to revisit this in another post just so I can add a video. The salt water would have been a much better conductor than the land, and it's holding on to an incredible amount of charge. However, before reaching the desired distance for arc, the currents would already be in glow mode. What would happen, there would be a stream of water, rise up from out of the sea, and start slithering across the surface of the land, along the equator. The moment we got close enough.. . . ZAP!!, and ALL that charge from the other side of the Earth would come rushing into one spot. This would probably happen in a way that carved 4 channels, creating a path of least resistance, for the current to flow. North, South, East & West. Dividing Pangaea into Quadrants. I can't make this up. It's physics. It's the way Nature works!!

Ooooh.., it gets DEEPER!!!

>>4824924

The second encounter I think we had was with the satellite of a larger planet. It may have been Uranus… I heard Uranus is BIG!!! "How BIG is it?" It's so BIG it could pull Antarctica to the South Pole! "That is pretty BIG!" True, but not BIG enough to pull the Earth away from Saturn, and that is an important thing to factor into the equation.

Seriously tho… I thought this was Neptune originally, but it could be either one, or both, or I could be reading this whole thing wrong, but this feels about right. So, some time goes by, Saturn was possibly making a Decent further into the solar system (I'm not sure of the orbit, but it would have to get here somehow. I'm not sure when the others got here, but the best candidate for encounter number 2 is Uranus). This is the most horrific thing the Earth would have to encounter, as far as I know, but it's over and Life still exists, so BE HAPPY!!! I've been lucky to catch things at certain times. One of which was an article someone shared about "the moon appearing in the sky, after the flood". Another awesome person shared a video, in which someone pointed to the scar I was referring to as the "Trident", only they were hinting at it being caused by Venus. A lot of people like to blame things on Venus, after they read Velikovsky. There are other planets in the solar system, and Venus wasn't around at the time this happened. It may have come about as a result of this encounter, but the scar on Earth is not from Venus. It's from when the Earth collided with the moon :) There was no impact (: Why? :) ARC MODE (: Thank Q!!)

Before ever physically colliding with one another, there would be an enormous amount of electricity that got discharged! Both bodies would want to continue on their respective forces, but the electricity would've knocked them 90 degrees over. The two would become locked as they tumbled about. Meanwhile, Saturn and Uranus would have been carrying on with their motion, until they finally began to move away. This may have taken a bit longer than the first encounter, since we did [probably] get closer. Never-the-less, as the two larger bodies started to drift apart, the Earth, being the larger of the 2 smaller bodies, settled into the ((Center oV Gra(V)ity)). Each of the larger bodies would have wanted to take their respective satellites with each other, and Saturn and Uranus begin fighting for the rights of the new couple.

I should probably mention the besides the lightning bolts in Asia, there would've been some serious shock waves that were sent out, along with current moving around through the waters as the rushed inland and really all over. It's a MESS!!, but the result is equally as beautiful as it is frightening to think about what it must have been like. Anyway, as that drama is unfolding, Earth starts being pulled by some A–hole at the south end, as Santa is up at the North Pole trying to load up the presents and ride off on his sleigh. In this instance, Saturn wins, and this may be one of the better scenarios I can possibly imagine to trigger a polar configuration, if it did happen.

If you asked me how long this entire encounter lasted, it's incredibly hard to say. Prior to this, I don't know if "time" was even a "thing". If it was, conditions would've been completely different. What we do have is the scars to prove something like this did indeed take place, forever changing our world as we know it. Knowing how to read those scars would've been beneficial to future characters. I'll have to revisit them to, someday. I know there is a lot more to the story, but I wanted to get this part out for everyone, especially since there's a lunar eclipse tonight. Hopefully this will provide others with a better understanding of our world. Remember THIS day.., and… Enjoy the Show!!!

(:Thank Q!!)

>>4825229

Thank you, fren!! I've been kind of shooting from the hip as I go, so I'm glad things make sense.

Building off these thoughts:

>>4826757

>>4824924

Something else jumped out at me, because, ya know..,

SYMBOLS

This first encounter was electrical, which means it wouldn't have just left a scar. It would've probably caused the Earth to spin, too. Something gives me the feeling that the Earth would've stayed tidally locked to Saturn, but the 4 landmasses would now be swirling around, causing wind, weather and whatnot. Why on Earth would I ever imagine something so crazy?

I've been revisiting myths to search for more clues. I will say that I do notice a reoccurring theme about the 4 landmasses and/or rivers. Still, that wasn't what caught my attention. If there was a great continent that was split up in such a fashion, surely there would be something incredibly obvious laying around as some kind of symbol, right? Which is exactly what we see. Anyone wanna take a guess? Of course, out of all the symbols it had to be this one. Anyone remember that joke about how we are all a bunch of racist Nazis?

Considering the swastika is found all over the world, and often regarded as a sacred symbol, I think we may have a winner! So, if I'm reading this symbol correctly, the landmass would have been split into quadrants, then spun like a pinwheel. One pole would've been situated in the center of the 4 landmasses, while the other would've been on the other side of the planet at the point closest to Saturn. I also see significance in several cultural practices that make me think of this concept. So many things make sense right now, it almost seems unreal.

Speaking of myths, symbols and coincidences, guess who I bumped into while researching myths about the moon ;) A White Rabbit!! Not all the myths have a rabbit playing this role, but there are a number of similarities between several different legends. Originally, I was incredibly bothered by the myth of ten suns. Like, REALLY bothered. Trying to imagine what kind of hellish nightmare was going on in the solar system to where we wind up with a myth about ten suns is not fun at all. Here's an article from the Thunderbolt Project regarding some of this myths. The author starts off by making a great point, that these "suns" may not have been referring to what we consider a sun. I give him props for that. Prior to this moment in time, I don't know if any human had ever seen the sun, so any significant object in the sky may have been "sun".

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2013/09/22/sunshots/

I must, however, critique this guy for not recognizing such a blatant pattern. I could understand if the people confused something like a planet with their tales, but the moon is sitting right next to us. For one of these "suns" to later turn into the moon, and for such a thing to show up in not just one, but several myths from around the world, I'd say that's pretty significant. I can imagine that the moon was incredibly hot during the chaos. It appears that I am, indeed, on to something. I could be misreading this, but it does sound like this event may have triggered the polar configuration. Between Saturn, Mars & Venus that accounts for 3 more "suns". As for the other 6, those may have been glowing plasma in the sky, prior to discharge, as the moon was moving in. Even if it wasn't that, it could also have been the other large planet, whose moon we stole, or any number of said planet's smaller satellites. Who knows? Anyway, it's a relief to know that the "sun" which did the most damage was actually the moon, now much cooler, calmer and collected.

Which brings me to my next point, which I'm trying to be cool as possible about, but I'm still pretty pissed. I'm trying to put the majority of my own personal issues aside here, so this doesn't get any uglier. I'm not mad about the swastika. If anything, I'm laughing about that part. The rest of this, tho, has me quite upset. The part where we are being fear-porned into thinking that a tiny, little space rock could wipe out life as we know it, at any given time, even though the physics allow us to withstand a DIRECT COLLISION WITH THE MOON.

Furthermore, how much time, money, talent, etc., is being wasted on the whole "pole reversal", which again gets blasted in our faces that all sorts of shit can happen here, and we just don't know, blah, blah, blah. How many of those scientists are being paid to study the Earth? And you're telling me not one has ever considered the MASSIVE amount of current that was flowing through the Earth at the time the continents drifted apart!? Yet, this was one of the first thing that occurred to me, back in July. So, let's just keep paying those scientists to travel the world, researching something they haven't the slightest clue about, so we can scare the shit out of the masses and waste how much more time and money? Cuz the world doesn't have enough f***ing problems.

So, I still feel like I'm on to something, but I may have to be a little flexible throughout this entire process. Building as we go ;)

>>4824924

>>4911058

>>4826757

So, I decided to read anything and everything of Velikovsky's I could find. He does notice there appears to be quite a bit of F***ery with the mainstream's version of dates, but he does a good job of referencing several "coincidences" between cultures and did an incredible job of sorting things out to the best of his ability. I give him MAD PROPS for everything he did. If you really want to understand what was going on in the Bible, study Velikovsky's work!!! So, I wanted to hear his take on the Moon. I found this video, which I found incredibly informative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MgWCQn67D0

In the short amount of time that I have researched the mythology, it seem crystal clear that people were around when the moon crashed into Earth. However, what caught my eye was two sections in particular. First, the part that states, "Aphrodite's origin in the disruption of Uranus". . . Sounds like I could be onto something. I should've just looked to see where this piece came from, but instead I just searched and started listening to the one book of Velikovsky's that I never read, "Ages in Chaos". Less about the cosmic catastrophes, more about sorting through dates and characters. Good read, but it wasn't answering my questions. So finally after searching some more I came across the unpublished work that this video featured. It also happens to be the work that inspired Dave Talbot's "Saturn Myth" & more!

https://www.varchive.org/itb/index.htm

So, apologies for mistaking the sequence of events. Velikovsky's take on the first "Days of Creation" has each "Day" as an "Age". Basically, a period of time in between catastrophes. I may have a few pieces right, but I think I had them slightly out of place.

The Moon was most likely already present at the time of the Great Flood. Why? If Noah was keeping accurate time, in regards to the days of the month, than we probably had a moon. I don't know how I didn't catch that one… Anyway, the second thing that jumped out at me is equally as obvious ;) the RIB!!! It's the crescent of the moon! Not to mention the female menstrual cycle, obviously tied to the moon. Those two have me sold. The part "In the Beginning" that has "Adam & Eve" leaving the "Garden of Eden" makes me think the landmass has already split apart after Earth's collision with the moon. Not to mention, most of the myths I've been reading about the moon has it scorching the Earth, not flooding it.

So, now that I have that sorted out, I feel a little better. I'm still putting a few things together on my end. I'll have to do a bit more reading & researching. Something else occurred to me regarding dates and stuff. I'll have to revisit a few more things. As for the catastrophes, the moon did some major damage, but here are quite a few that play out afterwards. Velikovsky proposes that the Flood came from Saturn. Science just confirmed. Sodom and Gomorrah was probably the start of the polar configuration, which probably continued right up until Exodus. The "Wandering in the Desert" may have actually been Earth leaving Saturn, following the "Comet" Venus, to the next stop.

I have finished reading and cross referencing everything, yet. I'm getting there, tho. One thing I'll mention, there are some discrepancies between Velikovsky and some of the Thunderbolts theories. I'm just playing around with some of the various possibilities, while I hope to make sense of it all. Some more things occurred to me today regarding dates, but I'll save that for later.

I've been reviewing every piece of Velikovsky's I can find. I've kind of been thinking out loud, as I go. I have a few different IDs in this thread, but feel free to follow my thoughts, starting from the top:

>>4011529

So, World's in Collision deals with the most recent events, as we were still settling down into our current orbit. The polar configuration proposed by Talbot and the Thunderbolts Project was only one event throughout the course of planetary instability that occurred within historical times. Other Velikovsky works include "Ages in Chaos" (which focuses more on historical figures and dates) and "Earth in Upheaval" (Deals more with geology & archeology). Altogether, his work provides a great bridge to back to the past. The work, "In the Beginning", deals with the most distant past. It's linked in my last post :

>>4999917

After realizing that some of the events I was proposing are further back in time, I'm trying to return my focus on the more recent events. Thankfully, others have already made enormous contributions, so it should be a little easier to navigate. One incredibly important thing that I would like to state is that this is OUR STORY. It's told by several peoples from all around the globe. It's not about who's version is better. It's about understanding one another, and in doing so, also reaching a new level of understanding and appreciation for the World, and the Universe, in which we all live.

Now.., who wants to burn a bush!? No, not that one. . . I think we know which one I'm talking about. Reread the story of Exodus with the polar configuration in mind. Moses wasn't a person. Moses was the planet Mars. That should give you an idea of time frame, also, the kind of psychological barriers we must overcome, if we wish to understand the Scriptures. Here's an episode of the Alien Sky series that gives a brief view of what Mars was doing as it passed charge back and forth between Venus and Earth (starting at [3:13] mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laLl8zE0JC4

So, when Moses climbing the Mountain, is pretty much Mars moving away from Earth, nearer to Venus, which was burning brilliantly with an abundance of free charge (((Q!!))).., aka "The Burning Bush". When Moses came down the Mountain, he say the people worshiping the Bull god, we should all know by now. The parting of the Sea, was all part of this [event]. The "serpents" were Birkeland currents. The list goes on. "The Laws" were probably passed to keep the people in check, who were probably freaking out. The stories were passed to keep people aware. As time passed, people were further removed from the catastrophes. Later figures abused their powers of authority, and you can find evidence of that in the Scriptures, too. Prophets were there to warn the people. Whether it was through Divine communication or an actual knowledge is perhaps up for interpretation. I'm going to have to go back and reread the entire Bible, next. One has to keep an open mind about things. Not all characters are actual people. Sometimes a person will get attributed to a celestial body, other times one person may represent a group of people.

One thing appears very clear, though: People were advanced for several generations prior to these events. There was a very good reason why the people were watching the skies. According to Velikovsky, the most recent "event" that took place is attributed to the time of around 687 BC. I'm not entirely certain if I can take that as 2,700 years ago, considering how messed up the "official" timeline is. Also, something tells me had one more "event" at whatever marks AC/BC. Not to mention there have been a few curious things on our side of the time line. I'm not here to scare people. I'm trying to help re-educate people, at the same time as I try to understand for myself. Considering the evidence of the megalithic ruins, I would say that one or more civilizations were prepping for these kinds of things.

There is a lot more I want to share, but some might have to wait. I'll try to make some more graphics for certain events. I'm still trying to piece a few things together. There are some gray areas. Thunderbolts kind of takes the stance that Venus was ejected from Saturn, while Velikovsky and, I think, more of the myths seem to state that Venus was ejected from Jupiter. I'm kind of leaning with that take, and I believe some of this was part of the process of charge distribution. As I mentioned about the "Wandering in the Desert", This was perhaps the moment in time where Earth was separated from Saturn, and moved into it's new orbit. I already have an idea about how this might have happened, based on what we observe in space. Whether or not it actually went down this way, I'm not certain, but given the circumstances and taking the accounts into consideration, along with the relatively clean get away that we made, I should at least propose the idea.

Continuing my ramblings ;)

>>5021235

There's several things I still want to address. I've kind of been beating around the bush on something. Of all the misunderstandings, there is One that really bothers me. It has to due with the True Nature of "God", The Creator. It's only fitting that I set the mood by reading from Velikovsky's Epilogue in "Worlds in Collision" :

"The development of religion, including the religion of Israel, comes under a new light. The facts established here may help in tracing the origin and growth of planetary gods, animal worship, human sacrifices - also the source of astral beliefs. The author feels an obligation to expand the scope of his work to include the problem of the birth of religion and of monotheism in particular. Investigations should be made into why and how the Jewish people, who had the same experiences as other people and who started with an astral religion like the rest of the nations, early cast off astral deities and forbade the worship of images.

The Scriptures invite a new approach to Bible criticism, one that will make it possible to see the process of transition from an astral religion to monotheism with it's idea of a single Creator, not a star, not an animal, and not a human being."

I've carried this belief for quite sometime. It's not easy to explain, mostly cause of preconception due to the manner in which the information is presented. Still, when I look around, it seems that there is an active effort to suppress, or at the very least distract away from, the Truth.

The most important claim that Velikovsky made was that electricity and magnetism played an important role in space. This legacy was carried on by the Electric Universe community. These ideas do not at all disobey the Laws of Physics. Quite the opposite! The Electromagnetic Force is a key component in the world of physics. However, this Electromagnetic Space Force is not just relevant to physics & space, but several fields of study : Chemistry, Biology, Geology, Paleontology, Archeology, meteorology, etc… Yet for some strange reason, this incredibly powerful force of Nature often gets ignored, overlooked, suppressed, even attacked. Why is that? Don't call it a conspiracy. . .

Tesla knows what I'm talking about! We live in a Magnificent Universe!!! Why would anyone want to hide the Truth? If you don't think that something like this was hidden, ask yourself why we never learned about Nikola Tesla in school. Think about how dependent the average person has become upon electricity, despite knowing so little about it. Now, go research Faraday and Maxwell and all the other electrical engineers of the 1800's and ask, "What happened?". Something tells me that Q knows what I'm talking about, too ;)

https://youtu.be/JhV-GOS4y8g

I've been learning how to read the map. I see the scars of Creation that shaped our Earth. Electricity played a significant role in the process. Mountains raised, rivers carved, etc. This is the work of the "Grand Architect" (I guessing this has something to do with the Mason's "G"). Genesis 1:2 "…And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters". I'm reading this as free charge (((Q))) moving along the surface. This is also what we see in the Egyptian hieroglyphs. The orb is a planet, while the serpent is the free charge of the entire planet. That's just one aspect.

Electricity is the very "Breath of Life". If you aren't aware, please look into bio-electricity, or what some cultures refer to as Chi (Qi, Prana, etc.). Our heart is a conductor. Our nerves send electric signals. The same goes for our thoughts. Our DNA. The structures we find in space also happened to be mirrored within our anatomy. "In God's image"… Like Velikovsky said, it's not a Being. Call it the "Holy Spirit" if you wish. This does also have significance behind what we consider to be our "Soul". That Energy inside us doesn't get destroyed. Has anyone ever heard of the "21 grams"? If you doubt that electricity could have anything to do with weight, look into the recent modifications to the very definition:

https://phys.org/news/2018-01-kilogram-makeover.html

Once you become aware of this stuff, you'll start to see it everywhere. Not just in people, it's in plants, rocks, it's literally EVERYWHERE!! "Split the Log…"… Electricity has some rather "Life"-like properties to it. It has the ability to move, sort and even transform material. It's almost as if there is a "consciousness" behind things. The Divine Order of the Universe. Life is very much a part of that Divine Order.

It's terrifying to think about some of these incredibly catastrophic events recorded by our ancestors, but we are still here and therein lies the Miracle! The Universe provides a way. It's encoded in the very Laws of Nature. When you become aware, you will realize that "God" is Alive and well, present in all things, great and small. Don't take my word for it, see for yourself!

A few extra thoughts on:

>>5035174

I will say that the whole "G" conversation might be more complicated than my attempt to explain it. I should also point out that another aspect of "God" may actually pertain to our own conscience. Reading about the story of Abraham, it could have been an awareness of that voice inside that tells you what you are doing is "wrong". We all have that connection, although some choose to ignore it, while others try to distract us away from it. We teach about "survival of the fittest" as if the only way to succeed is to screw the next person out of something.

The rise of the concepts of uniformity seemed to come about at the end of the 18th Century. This is the foundation for Darwin's theories, which "science" has adopted as a principle, that cannot be questioned (However, this was not implemented into the public education until the 1960's). There were a number of other ideologies and -isms that originate around the same time as Darwin. When you start to consider some of the other things going on during these times, especially in regards to wars, it does give one the impression that [someone] could very well be orchestrating the general degradation of humanity.

One more thing that I'd like to mention, it is possible that one group was hiding information from the other, so that this stuff didn't fall into the wrong hands. Looking into what Tesla was doing back in his day, along with what was being developed during WW2, this is indeed "next level" technology. Still, it does appear that at least some of the tech has fallen into the wrong hands and now we have a "situation" that we are trying to resolve. I understand the severity of this threat. However, I do feel an obligation to help others understand our past, in order to achieve a brighter future. There is a lot of misunderstandings between various religions and cultures which inevitably lead to conflicts. There seems to be a lot of tensions being stirred on many levels, as of late.

Now, back to Biblical decodes.., in SPACE!!!

>>5021235

I've been reading Hesiod's Theogony to try to find some more clues. Ouranos does appear to play a significant role. According to this work, Ouranos is around before Saturn. There is talk about how one planet gives birth to another. I don't think that necessarily means that Saturn came out of Uranus. If we started off the saga as Pangaea Earth tidally locked to Saturn, then we never would have seen Saturn in our skies above until after the encounter with "Ouranos". Perhaps we had a decent view of Uranus for awhile, prior to the calamity (This could by why we call it "mooning" know-a-days ;)

https://msu.edu/~tyrrell/theogon.pdf

It's also worth noting that sometimes a planet will be linked to more than one character. Venus was special for a reason. I do think it played a big role in not only separating us from Saturn, but perhaps also guiding us to safety into a new orbit. Jupiter "reigned" after Saturn, but given the accounts I'm not necessarily certain that meant we were a satellite of Jupiter (if we were, it was probably only for a brief moment in time). From what I understand, Life became rather harsh for a bit under Saturn. Velikovsky provided some interesting clues about this in his assessment of Khima.

https://www.varchive.org/itb/khima.htm

"Were it not for the heat of Kesil [Mars] the world could not endure the cold of Khima [Saturn]; and were it not for the cold of Khima, the world could not endure the heat of Kesil". This could have been the temporary setup prior to Venus entering the equation. This may also relate to the character "Typhon". The Flood wasn't the only catastrophe in Genisis, but rather one of SEVERAL, all of which were caused by the chaos in the cosmos. The Story of Exodus wasn't just about people moving from one place to another. There's a [mirror] about how Earth was leaving it's oppressive ruler, Saturn, to reside in a new place in the heavens.

Just some things to think about. . .

Thank you, Baker for this one and new bread!!

You rock!!!

I'll get one more thought in here, now that the new bread is up. I wanted to link this video that has the sounds of the solar system to go with my other thoughts from this thread:

>>5052018

It's a stretch to claim this as a "symbol", but it does kind of pertain to symbolism. I've listened to the sounds of the planets several times before, completely fascinated by this. However, while I listened, recently, as I was contemplating all the stuff that I've been posting about here, some thing new stood out. Remember the all the referencing about the angels sounding the trumpets in the heavens?

This could've been the sound coming from the sky as these planets moved closer to the Earth.

I'll give you a quick run down. First off, I think normally the sound is slightly outside our hearing range, so I think they had to shift the scale, in order for these sounds to be heard. However, if the planet was moving closer to Earth, these sounds may have not only shifted into the audible range, but they may have haunted the heavens throughout the entire encounter. That's hypothetical, but when you hear Venus, you'll know what I'm talking about. . .

Anyway, the video starts off with the sun, which is fairly quiet. It's cool, but you have to listen real close to hear it. Not really relevant to anything. Then about [0:38] seconds in, Mercury starts ROARING in. It almost sounds like a WOLF. Which there is quite a few references to wolves in mythology. Originally, I didn't think we had any encounters with Mercury, but Velikovsky does note that planet is also in the mythology. So, I think I'll have to look into this one a bit further. The same will go for other planets.

None of this would have stood out had it not been for the sound of Venus. Starts at [1:08]. To me, this is eerily similar to some kind of enormous horn is being blown. If this was sound indeed heard in the heavens, it would have likely preceded some kind of catastrophe, like a warning. Velikovsky also noted that certain planets were associated with Archangels. So the angels were sounding the horn, announcing the arrival of ]You know Who[. . .

Anyway, there's a few others that stand out. Earth chimes in at 1:39 in this video. The sad part is that in this video, it sounds like our noise pollution drowns out the true sound of Earth. I've heard other versions where Earth sounds AMAZING!!

https://www.nasa.gov/mp3/687631main_687014main_emfisis_chorus_1.mp3

Mars [2:08] is another quiet one, but it does sound pretty beastly. I think these sounds may have played a role behind some of the various personifications associated with each planet. Jupiter (Jove) chimes in at [2:39], and I'm in awe, once again!! It sounds almost like a heavenly choir is singing praise to the heavens. It's almost unreal. . . By the way, Velikovsky did predict that radio noises would be detected from Jupiter, and was originally laughed at. This is yet another clear sign that the Electromagnetic Force is indeed present in space.

Anyway, did you here the one about Saturn?? Creepy AF!! It starts at [3:09]. It kind of sounds like some kind of monster that would fight Godzilla or something. I don't know what else to say.

Sounds like Uranus is blowing wind. . . What's up with that? Starts at [3:39]. I don't know if Saturn was dragging Uranus around for a bit before it finally broke away, but the myths do mention something about Uranus "groaning" as it was being separated. If this encounter did have anything to do with the polar configuration, the wind noise perhaps may have been associated with the character Typhon. Just some things to think about while trying to piece this together. . .

As for the rest, Neptune starts at [4:09] and I really don't hear anything particularly relevant. If I was onto anything in terms of the possible encounter with Neptune, there may not be enough left from the account, since it would've been one of the furthest back in time. Same goes for Pluto [4:39]. I don't know if there were any encounters with the dwarf planet in our past. However, I will say, it has one of the coolest sounds out of all the planets!!

So, that's my run down. I have been looking into some of the cosmic events of more recent times. I'll try to make dedicate a post or two to that in the next thread. Also, I never got to talk about Sirius, yet. So, I'll try to share my thoughts on that, too, since it appears to be in the symbology.