>>4136779

I've been amazed at all the people who have effectively used that to get off heroin and pain pills…talk about costing the gov. big bucks..legal heroin aka methadone and suboxine…used to cost 75 dollars a day…shit..belly up to the government heroin bar…and pay us.

Another near instant cure is Ibogaine. The gov. funded a study in NY Dr. Christine Marsh…it worked so fast and was so effective…that she applied for the study to end early and go forward with more in depth use…the government reacted immediately upon viewing the results. The banned Ibo…and pulled her funding. She packed up and went to St. Kitts and opened a clinic. They do combine that with psych help but that shit works..and often, overnight. No addict is ever going to get well unless they see, know…understand their WHY…

repeat…US gov. funded study found Ibogaine was essentially a miracle cure for heroin addiction…the gov pulled the funding and banned the plant…a plant.

>>4136803

>Kratom is hard to get off of and is expensive as hell.

DUDE…you're not talking to someone who doesn't know….if you're an addict who doesn't want to get well they you will need to consume mass quantities to keep from getting sick and to keep that "edge"…my dose is 2.5 grams twice a day…I've been using that same dose for six years.

it WAS 5 bucks an ounce for the powder…due to the US fucking gov it is now 10 bucks.

Extracts MUST be banned, should be banned…I am against ANY and all adulteration of plant medicines to make it stronger. There is only ONE fucking reason to take a 50x extract of Kratom and it's NOT for pain relief. I don't even understand…if I take a double dose (whcih I did once when I was having issues walking) there is no "high" you might feel light…but mostly just sleepy.

I read where idiots are taking 30 grams a day…can they even poop? Well yeah at that stupid ass dose it can get expensive.

And it is NOT hard to get off of. Again..addicts always gonna addict. I don't JONES for my dose…in fact often the only reminder that I've forgotten to take my dose is the pain…I notice the pain. SRSLY it is people like you that ruin it for everyone.

What do you think is harder to get off of? OPIOD pain pills or Kratom? Cause…if you're taking a high dose for the "obvious reasons"…well yeah idiot…tapering off might be good as well as getting therapy to help understand why you have to stay checked out..but stop fucking ruining it for people who use it for pain.

I know people who were successful getting off pain pills…and Kratom. When you post your whiny ass shit..all I want to do is tell you to fuck off.

>>4136555 (pb)

People who use alcohol and cannabis together are fucking idiots. They cancel each other out.

Still I have nothing against stupid…they die much faster…I think we ruined our gene pool with legislation…why the actual fuck does a dry cleaning bag need a label on it saying "don't put this on your kid's head" or a bucket a warning.."kids can drown here"..and isn't all coffee hot?

There is a difference between the PINTO case and fucking retards that leave dry cleaning bags where their kids can suffocate.

Stop trying to legislate intelligence…let them die…SRSLY we will be better for it in the long run.

>>4137132

sorry..but alcohol is never a good choice. Maybe a beer or glass of wine now and then or a SUPER fine whiskey….but as a habit? NOPE…I like my liver and my genetic makeup means…NOPE to alcohol.

>>4136170 (pb)

>I know medicine so I could be good at killin’ people.

Me too…it's amazing what one can do with a bit of vinegar and baking soda.

>>4137166

>caffeine withdrawal.

KEK I had to do that 0once..it was unfun…lol found myself drinking too much coffee…what a shock when cutting back meant headaches and shakes! The cost of Kratom is going up because the US gov is confiscating this completely legal plant and now vendors ..I would never ever buy my kratom from a head shop…ever..first it's expensive and second..I don't know what is in it..one headshop supplier was adding fent to their caps….because headshop buyers are almost always addicts taking the edge off until they can get heroin. No one uses headshop shit…I won't touch it. It should be banned for sale in headshops, gas stations…etc…and the vendor I use has been forced to raise his prices because the fucking gov . keeps taking his shipments of perfectly legal kratom..i like that they test for any impurities but I also boil water and pour it on my dose.

>>4137207

Unless you're NA…and have genetics that say…alcohol..NOPE..weed..YES.

>>4137118

>I'm off to In & Out Burger,

asshole…SRSLY…sigh…don't take your IN & OUT out unless you can share with the class. Mean…POS…really?

>>4137034

>They especially don't like it when your response to a question of reservations about joining the agency elicits a response of being wary of corruption, especially in light of history like Iran-Contra.

I love you (no hommo)…that's why I quite my job in politics…I saw the filth and corruption…bullshit after bullshit..the damn money…I'd rather be poor than sell my soul to their devil. I see anyone in politics as vile and corrupt..recently I saw my so called xian local in office for years…oh he played the good married xian man…until the Kratom issue came up in my state and he worked to get it banned..I called his office and told them…there's only ONE reason to work to get Kratom banned…he's corrupt as fuck and taking big pharma money….sure enough.

I am VERY unhappy that I had to vote for him again to make POTUS happy….very unhappy. POTUS better fucking make it worth the shit I swallowed when I marked his name.

>>4137406

> via a head shop or online vendor.

I agree online vendors can be iffy…back when vendor reviews were allowed at r/kratom it kept them honest…but I've never had an issue with the one I use and although I know they test, I always boil water and put that on…it's a tree leaf…common sense…birds pooh in leaves KEK.

>>4137445

Uncle Dave…don't tease me.

>>4137479

See, this is the problem…you can't recover…you are not capable of ignoring…you can't stop yourself from replying..you have very low impulse control. Between the Freddy complainers and Freddy half of each bread is taken up..which I guess could be the plan.

Dear shill complainers…please remove yourselves from the Ladies Temperance League and stop posting endless warnings that his or that person is a shill….it's worse than the shills. I imagine each of you posting very self importantly and issuing your ownselves medals of honor..and attaboy chits…AHYUP..YEP…pats self on back…I spotted a shill…must alert everyone..you're the fucking blue jays of 8 chan.