>>4179502 (a few breads back)
>Daily Mail slams POTUS & FLOTUS for not reciting The Apostles Creed with the others. Then goes on to say:
>Its basis appears to be the old Roman Creed known also as the Old Roman Symbol.
>Wikipedia says this about the Old Roman Symbol:
>According to the Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, the first text attesting it is a letter to Pope Julius I in 340 or 341, and it has recently been argued that it developed in the context of the Arian controversy.[1]
>Any biblefags able to explain why they did not recite this version and why Q said they would not participate in this EVIL?
>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6465129/Trump-fire-not-reciting-Apostles-Creed-George-H-W-Bushs-funeral.html
The explanation is very simple. Here is the Apostles Creed as printed out in the link:
I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again. He ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting.
Amen.
>Okay….
This "Creed" starts of all innocent and nice but toward the end something got slipped in there.
The first and basic problem with this is taking the Lords name in vain and arrogance which in this case is the following:
>I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints
>the holy catholic Church
Did Jesus Christ ever declare a coming of a church that can be simply described with one adjective, holy? No I don't think so. Did God ever say that? Did God, Jesus or any other prophets ever anoint the catholic church as holy which would mean that it is of divine nature, divinely ordained and pure. Holy is a very strong word and it has a lot of good connotations.
Whoever thought that this was in any shape or form correct was surely not of sound mind. To declare ones church, ones congregation "Holy" is very high in arrogance and also affront to God.
>I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church
The issue is the trick on the mind in attempting to make the reader associate the Holy Spirit with the catholic church by having former precede the latter and thus form a sort of association by succession as well as using the word Holy for describing the Holy Spirit and the catholic church.
Big no no!
1 Corinthians 4:6-7
6 Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. 7 For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?