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"I just don't see Nazis as something that survived WWII as a functioning, powerful group. They were a group that lost a war. There really weren't Nazis apart from Germany…"

what makes you certain?

I dont believe any Nazi co-opted by we or soviets were given ultimatum to denounce or no deal.

pic attached was here in US on vacay away from Huntsville.

Werner Van Breun never was required nor did he renounce affiliation or alignment with ideal and vision of Nazi Reich.

They lost the control they had over a legitimate state authority and monopoly of force wothin bprders, but those that survived either came here (or Russia) where belief was as you say what harm could they possibly be without panzers and Lufthansa?! the survival of an idea is all it takes.

the rest that got away made it to S America where loyal German expats had established industrial base and resources to rally them together, hide them in comfort and refuge, andaid and supply them for any future endeavors.

tldr: Nazis went corporate and private sector coordinating under disguise and in the marketplace.

In conflict a victory over an advisary must be total and known / acknowledged by all parties and outside observers. (lest foreign sympathy leads to support and desire to keep fire alive abroad)

The alies fucked up regarding victory over Nazis because not one party saw importance of total defeat disarmament and completely capitulation

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Even though I am saying we fucked up in re Victory in Europe, Roosevelt was total dick for getting /our boys/ slaughterd in Pac theatre encroachment towards Japanese mainland so as to afford time to deliver fat boy and little man for combat deployment. Our generals had knowledge of Japanese exhaustion and concern with respect to their relative ability to repel or deny a land invasion.

Our generals suggested a public testing would have been sufficient to obtain surrender from Hirohito. Such a plan would not have required the needless blood of fallen patriots in foreign lands that were only dying to buy time to deliver the weapons that not only rendered the surrender but traumatized the psyche of a country to this day.

for anyone needing material to assist in helping explain that govts lie, that PR = propaganda= psychology on mass level, and the notion that nuclear violence and govt manipulation of citizens both do lasting psychological harm at individual and group: videos from documentarian adam curtis are all over the net. now you know.

major theme of his work is that both we and russians have respective societal level psychic trauma from the cold war. (ptsd at societal level not psychic like movie Scanners).

totally lines up with the narrative of Soviet collapse where Pappi Bush burned Russian leader by breaking gentlemans agreement not to move NATO beyond where it existed. Gorbi thought a written treaty wasnt needed when negotiating leader to leader. In fact there was hope and chatter that Russia should be brought into systems in due time same as other former soviet states.

but nope, Pappi had no intention from start of treating russia with respect enough not to lie, and besides the dominant feelz by officials at time was muh capitalism = end of history.

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when clinton got in he said fuck russia's muh feels about needing to ease into democracy and free markets. send Larry Summers over there to oversee the shock inducing pace of conversion from broken system to free market in broken state.

Summers raped and enriched like he was a banker playing Bolshevik and it was 1917. Next thing you know American firms like LTCM were setting up shop over there to profit in ways punishible here.

LTCM crashes because, junk bond ponzi scheme…. and that causes russias ruble to collapse taking the state and its legitimacy down a peg in the eyes of its governed.

Putin remembers and doesnt forget this.

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After LCTM tanked the ruble, foreign portfolio capital took flight outward from russia and over to ROK, Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia,Malaysia etc…. Asian contagion.

To bring it full circle and MAYBE ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT Malaysia and its.domestic banks: every developing state in affected state in asia WITH EXCEPTION OF MALAYSIA accepted offer of assistance / bail-out loans and the mandatory strings attached.

those conditions forced open each countrys domestic markets and protected the interest of foreign investments at the expense of social well being and soveriegn autonomy over governance within its own borders.

familiar right?

Malaysia was the only country that had a modicum of intuition warning their leader that outsiders were pulling a rahm emmanuel by not letting these crises go to waste.

He said fuck your loans and their strings, we are closing are markets not opening them further. He was ridiculed and written off as crazy but he wasnt.

meanwhile cox commission report says clintons were learning to sell C.C.P. access to our technology here domestically….

Clintons seeing to rise of our new rival and undermining us at same time.

GHWB admin acted in like a spoiled sport and raked our oldrival Russia over caols and then through rubbing alcohol on the burns, meanwhile nobody told us maybe we had gotten a little nuerotic as a people and ought take time to decompress. nope, instead muh productivity! moar! moar! heres technology in your face ! moar moar! produce moar! Cant produce? Moar moar consume! theres technology out there that you dont have and a mindful mind is a wastefule mind! consume moar!

I expect its going to be difficult for some to truly understand that russia hasnt been the boogeyman for some time.

many never bothered to think about it, no one told them they ought to, and over the same time attention has been increasingly held captive by technology and absurd stress due to modern problems of life in 21st century.

Russia hasnt had the will to be our enemy or interest in anything more from us as a nation than dignity, respect, and recognition. Trump know it, I know it, fags here know it.

adam curtis – i recommend we all get acquainted with his work. gonna be usefule tool to help the others understand when cognitive dissonance sets in