Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 10:02 p.m. No.4318407   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8455 >>8581

>>4318364

Unfortunately, I don't expect us to escape the pre-existing condition doom. People are convinced health care is a right. They simply don't understand the moral and economic problems with that. This alone will ultimately doom any plan they put in place.

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 10:23 p.m. No.4318593   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4318455

I'm not saying it is. Any government "guarantee" is essentially socialistic, and doomed to failure. I hate to see people with pre-existing conditions suffer, but would ANYBODY think that you could go out and get car insurance the day after an accident? I realize the circumstances are different, but the economics are not. Everybody understands the simple truth that the car insurance example is infeasible. The health insurance one fails for the exact same reason. Just because you want it to function differently because the need is greater doesn't change the way it functions.

 

The best outcome is no government involvement (or minimal). Let charity pick up those the system cannot.

 

I feel for you anon. I do. Cheaper health care is the solution, and that means less government involvement.

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 10:29 p.m. No.4318643   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4318581

Exactly.

 

Before the ACA, I had this cool plan from my employer in 2007: $4000/year, only requirement was receipts. My wife has type 1 diabetes. We put her into a high-risk "pool" offered by my state. My total expenses, including her pool, were around $5000/year. So I'm out $1000.

 

Fast forward 10 years. My current plan, 25% me, 75% my new company, runs about $25,000/year plus co-pays. That's 5x over 10 years, for very similar coverage. That's not normal, that's not inflation, that's government creating artificial demand for a product that has limited supply. Fuck Obama.

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 10:39 p.m. No.4318700   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8724

>>4318680

The law doesn't work that way. All insurance isn't "under" Obamacare, it was just required by it. That means people can ditch their plans. It means the exchanges are going away, so those people will likely need to get new plans (so yes, some plans will end up being voided, but not all, not even close).

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 10:44 p.m. No.4318734   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4318701

Yes and no. There's a few more steps, and Sessions had already started a push to stop this nonsense of a single judge issuing a nation-wide ruling*. Yes, the practice is nonsense, no, I don't think the ruling will be seen as nonsense moving forward. Once the SC upholds it, or refuses to hear the appeal, then it will be settled law.

 

*We can't let ourselves be happy with legislation from the bench only in situations in which we approve of the decision. Either it's a bad practice or not. It's a bad practice, but that applies across the board, including all the silly border rulings from Hawaii, or wherever. Fucking judges need to be put in their place.

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 10:46 p.m. No.4318751   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8783

>>4318737

Something other than what you think. I'm grounded in reality. Their power does not exceed that of Trump. They still have to maneuver the Constitution. Q has made that clear, and if you don't believe that, why the fuck are you here?

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 10:54 p.m. No.4318791   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8807 >>8961

>>4318777

That's the ultimate Q proof right there. POTUS can easily shut this all down with a single tweet. Just one, and we all disband and go back to our normal conspiracy theory hunting. Q would instantly go away. But he hasn't.

 

Some say "maybe he just doesn't care." Why not? This has the potential to create YUGE problems for his presidency. We know this because of all the press trying to paint every lunatic as some sort of Q-crazy Trump supporter. If this really is a larp, then the Q-crazy Trump supporters really are crazy, and really do have the potential to cause harm to Trump. He knows this. But he's silent.

 

None of the other proofs matter. Only this one.

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 10:56 p.m. No.4318805   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8850

>>4318783

You're arguing a red herring. Don't be stupid. There is no "classification level above the President." That's the stupidest fucking thing any of you idiots have ever come up with. It has nothing to do with a deep state.

 

Q #3

POTUS has everything.

 

Learn the fucking bread crumbs you fucking stupid ass stump. Then KYS for being such a stupid fucking stump.

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 11:03 p.m. No.4318839   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4318826

Congress doesn't have any authority over the DoJ, FBI, or any other law enforcement agency. Those powers are reserved to the President in Article 2 of the Constitiution. They have some "oversight," which is vaguely defined and constantly debated.

 

I'd suggest you read the Constitution.

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 11:09 p.m. No.4318872   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4318847

The exchange contracts will be a problem, as will all the subsidies. But those of us on employee plans won't be much of a problem, except for the money the insurance companies will suddenly say they're losing. They won't be, actually, because they're already charging us based on the artificial demand created by the ACA in the first place, but that will settle.

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 11:35 p.m. No.4319033   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9091

>>4319025

They can't acknowledge Q, not formally at least. Doing so would validate everything Q has said that has yet to be proved. All of the complicity, the duplicity, the lies, all of it. They'll go down screaming before they admit to it all. They're fucked.

Anonymous ID: 82fed8 Dec. 14, 2018, 11:41 p.m. No.4319075   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9085

>>4319049

I'm relatively quiet about it. Where I live is very conservative, so I have confidence they'll come around. My spousanon is semi-onboard, childanon is bright enough to figure it out, and a few co-workers wait for my updates.