>>4333016 (lb)

>It actually demonstrates that sound waves effect matter.

>That alone is notable

Not really. It is just basic physics that physical vibration affects physical matter, nothing strange or unexplained is going on here. Any physicist can explain exactly why the "cymatics" patterns are formed, and write a computer simulator that gives the same results, using nothing but standard basic Newtonian physics.

So, not all that notable. "Cymatics" is just pretty pictures that makes impressionable people who lack a scientific education think something magical is happening.

You can build religions around this kind of thing, and that's basically what they're doing here.

You don't get it. There's nothing SPECIAL about those vibration patterns. They exist, yes, and the Universe is made up by vibrational patterns, yes. But it's NOT MAGICAL!

I'll repeat what I wrote in another post:

>It is just basic physics that physical vibration affects physical matter, nothing strange or unexplained is going on here. Any physicist can explain exactly why the "cymatics" patterns are formed, and write a computer simulator that gives the same results, using nothing but standard basic Newtonian physics.

>

>So, not all that notable. "Cymatics" is just pretty pictures that makes impressionable people who lack a scientific education think something magical is happening.

>

>You can build religions around this kind of thing, and that's basically what they're doing here.

>>4333063

Could be. I still prefer my coffee black, and my scientific knowledge without added superstition.

>>4333068

True.

>>4333080

An "electron orbit" is a vibrational pattern around the nucleus. A proton or neutron is a vibrational pattern of quarks.

Not so stupid statement after all.

>>4333045

I just love your link, since it supports my case, and destroys yours!

From the wikipedia page on "Cymatics" we learn that "Cymatics" is a term that was made up by a Anthroposophist (hint, it's a New Age woo term, not a scientific term). I'll cite wikipedia here

"Modern analysts, including Michael Shermer, have termed anthroposophy's application in areas such as engineering, medicine, biology, and biodynamic agriculture as pseudoscience."

Then we learn that the vibrational phenomena "studied" by cymatics aren't special in any way, they're just a subset of Modal Vibrational Phenomena, which is an actual science thing. This is well-known basic Newtonian physics, and groundbreaking or new in any way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_mode

We further learn that "cymatics" is all about looking at the pretty pattern and making handwaving statements about the nature of things, there's literally no scientific rigor in any of the described examples. No equations, no measurements, no nothing. Just woo and psychobabble.

I'll cite wikipedia again:

"From the physical-mathematical standpoint, the form of the nodal patterns is predetermined by the shape of the body set in vibration or, in the case of acoustic waves in a gas, the shape of the cavity in which the gas is contained. The sound wave, therefore, does not influence at all the shape of the vibrating body or the shape of the nodal patterns. The only thing that changes due to the vibration is the arrangement of the sand. The image formed by the sand, in turn, is influenced by the frequency spectrum of the vibration only because each vibration mode is characterized by a specific frequency. Therefore, the spectrum of the signal that excites the vibration determines which patterns are actually nodally displayed.

The physical phenomena involved in the formation of Chladni figures are best explained by classical physics."

Heard that? It's already perfectly explained by classical physics!

And to get back to my original point, there's nothing special about 432 Hz.

>>4333162

>Technically what's supposed to happen is that the earth "beats" at roughly 8hz.

If this statement has any physical validity at all, then there is going to be some form of measurement of this. Care to link me to it?

P.S. 432 Hz is a multiple of 8, but so is 440 Hz! If this is the "explanation" for why 432 Hz is supposed to be in tune with the Earth and 440 Hz isn't, then it failed!

>>4333211

Neither 432 Hz nor 440 Hz is a multiple of 7.83 Hz, so that just makes the entire idea even more ridiculous.