Anonymous ID: cb66ce Feb. 21, 2018, 7:50 p.m. No.457423   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Hey, I'm the one who was arguing with you the other night in the general thread about ELF. It's probably easier to carry out the conversation in here where things are moving more slowly.

 

I think the ELF link is a red herring, for a number of reasons. Firstly, using microwaves from a satellite as a carrier for a low frequency signal wave does not create an actual ELF wave, it creates a variation in the intensity of the microwaves. This is used for data transmission, but it doesn't create the same thing physically speaking. It wouldn't penetrate any further than a regular microwave, since it is simply a microwave that is varying in intensity.

 

ELF waves would be very poor for detection of something as small as a submarine. More likely they were using other mechanisms for submarine detection. I'm not qualified to speculate on what those would be.

 

ELF waves also have insufficient bandwidth for transmitting sufficient data for something like mind control. It is possible that ELF waves effect mood, but delivery of detailed instructions seems exceedingly difficult.

 

With respect to MKULTRA, trauma based mind control, and SSRIs, I am of the opinion that there are two levels of this. The first level is what is applied to the general public. The general idea of trauma based mind control, on the simple mass level, is essentially to shut down certain mental pathways and make some thoughts "unthinkable." The most effective way to do this is to have a thought linked to a period of extreme physical or psychological discomfort as a child. In the mass population case, this comes from exposing very young children to graphic accounts of the holocaust. A 7 year old child has no way of processing information about something like the holocaust, and so it causes them extreme psychological discomfort. When this is coupled with the guilt ridden "never again" ideas that are included in most holocaust education, you form a deep seated, early seed of guilt and shame in the child. Any attempt to think about this later on will recall these traumatic feelings and memories and cause the person's mind to shut down even in adulthood. "If I think this bad thing, I'll be a scared helpless child again being told how awful I am for existing."

 

After this base anchor has been established, additional layers of programming can be added on which essentially "call back" to this reference. By associating something else - say gun rights - with "evil right wing thought that literally gasses 6 million Jews" you establish a mental link that prevents considering the idea. This is why you hear so many of the leftists yelling "YOU'RE LITERALLY HITLER!". It's also why if you use certain words in explaining an idea, your listener simply shuts down - but if you avoid that "trigger" word they will consider your point. It is the same reason that the communist genocides, which by any metric were more brutal, do not engender the same level of emotion in most people. The Holodomor, or the mass starvation of 7 million Ukrainians, Russians, and Belorussians by the mostly Jewish run NKVD (~85%) in 1933 is a great example of this. Your mind reacted more strongly to me calling out the NKVD as Jewish than to the idea of 7 million people being starved to death deliberately. This is a crude system, and imprecise - but for the masses it has been very effective in keeping the population from ever questioning the narrative they are fed. To overcome this requires addressing the childhood trauma and overcoming it. This is why the left was fighting to impose "trigger warnings" - by preventing "triggers" from being present in the general world, it would remove the ability of people to become desensitized and then overcome the programming. Any (real, honest) psychologist will tell you that the way to overcome trauma is to confront it, not to pretend it never happened and stick your fingers in your ears.

Anonymous ID: cb66ce Feb. 21, 2018, 7:51 p.m. No.457425   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7920

With SSRIs, I suspect that they are used more to deaden any real emotion or ability to form deep bonds in people. If you remove a person's ability to feel pain, or dial it back, you remove their ability to feel anything. Again, this is much more of a mass effect than a specific one - but for keeping the masses in line it works well.

 

In the case of the specific shooters, most of them have a suspicious childhood. For the individual level of MKULTRA programming, you need a much more hands on approach and much deeper set traumas and triggers. Generally this involves torture to develop depersonalization and a dissociative state. These dissociated states are then trained to carry out certain commands or orders. It is worth noting that this shooter was adopted, which may well mean he was placed with a team of handlers. If you have a person who has been programmed in this way, there are many ways that a cell phone could be used to trigger the shift to the alter personality and execution of a given command which don't require any kind of exotic RF/EMF. Simply receiving a phone call and hearing a key phrase could put them into a state of mind where they are prepared to accept any further commands they are given. However, this may be even more effective with a deep brain implant in the target, which could easily be communicated with via cell phone. All this would have to do is electrically stimulate certain pathways which are associated with the programmed trauma to put the person into a state of readiness. You don't need satellites or ELF or really anything more complicated than a very basic radio antenna set to the right frequency, or that delivers the right access code to turn on the implant. It would also be possible to transmit to it via satellite, making it impossible for the person to escape by discarding their phone.

 

A great deal of information came out about this during the "Satanic Panic" of the 90's - some of it was COINTELPRO and some of it was real. With many of these things, the most effective method of truth suppression is to associate anyone who questions the official story with a ridiculous alternate theory that is deliberately spread by the party seeking to prevent investigation. In the case of 9/11, the "loose change" video that appeared shortly after was a good example of this, as were the "hologram" theories. Anyone who asked a question about "Who benefits from getting the US into the middle east and geopolitically destabilizing certain countries" is lumped in with the people who are claiming things that are physically impossible. It wasn't just muslims who were dancing after 9/11. Look up the USS Liberty for a similar example of someone trying to draw us into a war in the middle east.

 

Autopsy reports indicating any kind of scarring would be very interesting - they are however often classified.

Anonymous ID: cb66ce Feb. 22, 2018, 1:34 p.m. No.463517   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3569

>>457920

A few years back - during the early primaries or before the elections started - there were a series of threads here where anons realized that a shockingly large number of them had been selected for GATE (Gifted and Talented Education). There's a lot of content in there, so rather than summarizing, here's the dump of the threads:

 

https:// archive.is/qQkpC

https:// archive.is/wced0

https:// archive.is/d0pID

https:// archive.is/nNVa3

https:// archive.is/WWpf9

 

There's probably a number of levels. With GATE, it was most likely an attempt to take the capable ones and enslave them if they could or break them if they couldn't.

 

Sadly I don't have the time right now to take a deep dive into this, but I've been around here for far too long and have seen quite a few interesting tidbits that tend to get left out, so I'll drop by and offer any resources that I can think of that seem relevant.

 

>>460224

Then you look at the leftists absolutely flipping their lid if someone questions their worldview…

 

>>461490

Specific companies tend to be hard to dig, for several reasons. One of them being that they often have a large "white" operation, and only a very small "black" development group. They're also not subject to FOIA and pay far more than government work, so people will keep their mouths shut.

 

There's also a lot of the "They have super advanced tech we could never dream of" thing that is COINTELPRO. The only exception to that would be in the "spiritual technology" side of things. Now, fly-by-remote airliners aren't exactly a difficult thing to develop, so that's not what I'm talking about. I more mean the "they can see everything at all times and there's nowhere to run or hide." If these people were omnipotent, they wouldn't be trying to destroy any possible competition. This whole machine is far more run on nepotism and corruption than it is on technical prowess.

 

Tech doesn't advance anywhere near as quickly as people are claiming - the massive gains of the late 20th/early 21st century were 95% due to improvements in computing power and maybe 5% due to an increased understanding of the physics and advances in what I'd call "hardware" technology. What I mean by this mostly is don't let yourself be demoralized by the claims that the enemy is all powerful.

 

Again, I'm not saying don't dig, just giving feedback on where we've found cracks in their armor before. Public-private partnerships and research through groups like DARPA tend to be a bit more easily dug and often have unintended information left about. With respect to mind control - controlling or influencing emotions is much easier than trying to control actual thoughts (in people who haven't been tortured extensively.)