>>445252

The fear is palpable.

Couple that with the gun control which has always been a losing prospect for dems even when they have power…

>>445325

ELF can't be generated by a cell phone. The antennas simply aren't capable of it, and if you don't believe me tear one out of a scrap phone and play with it.

>>445364

Sort of, but it's really dirty and not really a true ELF wave. It's more like a 100khz wave that grows and shrinks every 10hz. There's way better ways to mess with your brain with elf anyway. https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation

There's also plenty of options for implants that could be communicated with directly through a phone.

>>445458

It really doesn't work that way…

>>445483

Eh. Sort of. There are some devices that send signals by introducing a ripple into the mains power, but power grids are kept pretty close to 60hz, and are, well, powerful making them tricky to change frequency on.

>>445494

Broadband over power lines induces a ripple deviation to send a signal. Shitty power grids cause all sorts of RF noise in general.

>>445507

Microwaves and ELF are extremely different things. You're talking gigahertz vs hertz.

Now I could see potential for satellites to generate ELF through interactions with the ionosphere. I wouldn't know how to do it, but it's not first order impossible. Sattelites can easily generate microwaves, as well.

>>445521

It's not a true ELF though and it's not going to act like one. This is how AM radio works, basically.

>>445530

Why do you think they play the dramatic background noises between each news broadcast? Turn off your TV, it's much easier to influence someone through audiovisual stimuli than electromagnetic stimuli.

I'm not a comms guy, so don't take my word as gospel, but the "cell phones and ELF" thing I think is well meaning anons putting together buzzwords without fully understanding them.

There's also this, with respect to "electromagnetic mind control."

Physiological effects have been observed in a human subject in response to stimulation of the skin with weak electromagnetic fields that are pulsed with certain frequencies near ½ Hz or 2.4 Hz, such as to excite a sensory resonance. Many computer monitors and TV tubes, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or TV set. For the latter, the image pulsing may be imbedded in the program material, or it may be overlaid by modulating a video stream, either as an RF signal or as a video signal. The image displayed on a computer monitor may be pulsed effectively by a simple computer program. For certain monitors, pulsed electromagnetic fields capable of exciting sensory resonances in nearby subjects may be generated even as the displayed images are pulsed with subliminal intensity.

I've wanted to build one for a while as an experiment.

https:// patents.justia.com/patent/6506148

>>445726

The ionosphere thing works way differently. It's actually quite cool if you're a geek.

HAARP is a missile shield that accelerates charged ionospheric particles to fuck up Russian over the pole shots.

>>445737

>>445737

You know how they whine about bots?

Anything they accuse us of they're doing.

>>445741

The difficulty is getting your hands on private medical records with HIPAA laws and such.

>>445784

Yeah, but it specifically only works with the ionosphere at high powers. The technique they use is (very) basically creating a plasma antenna in the upper atmosphere that is of sufficent size for ELF (which needs a huge antenna) then inducing oscillation by varying the signal to the ionosphere. It's legit, but it's also very hard to do and very specific to that situation.

>>445836

Ehhhh. Again, signals and comms isn't my field, but it doesn't really work that way unless they're using a mechanism unknown to me.

The other thing about radio frequency stuff is that it's not even remotely concealable. You can monitor all of the radio waves coming into your house with a couple thousand dollars of equipment. It's poorly understood by most so it is easy to make sound spooky, but a lot of the things I see claimed aren't really practical or could be done much cheaper and stealthier with standard methods.

>>445881

Nah. You need the highly charged ionosphere and massive amounts of power. It's really not scalable to a handheld size.

>>445890

You can build an ELF RECEIVER without that much expense.

Building an ELF transmitter is the hard part.