Anonymous ID: 0c391a Dec. 25, 2018, 6:33 a.m. No.4462989   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4461890 (notable pb)

Excellent sleuthing, anon.

 

To add my thought, I think Spacey is implying in the vid that he was setup possibly by being steered into the 'victim'. He is pleading with his handlers (Hwood/others) to either rescue him (the ring signifying a bond or oath they have in common) or he will rat them out even if they 187 him.

Anonymous ID: 0c391a Dec. 25, 2018, 6:55 a.m. No.4463109   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3278

>>4463078

I'm going to through something random into this vaccination debate. Perhaps somebody can connect a line to the dot.

I recall Ken Alibek, a defector from the Soviet biowarfare programs, saying back during the anthrax mailings that the Soviet strategy was to simultaneously release as many pathogens as practical in an attack. The idea being that no potential victim could survive the number of vaccinations required for developing rapid immunity from them all.

Anonymous ID: 0c391a Dec. 25, 2018, 7:08 a.m. No.4463184   🗄️.is 🔗kun

For the vaccine debaters, here is an excellent read available free online. "Biohazard" by Ken Alibek. It's important to move outside the box when analyzing a subject and that is where Alibek's (dated but relevant) observations on vaccines and biowarfare can be useful. A different angle on a similar issue - best protection from infectious disease.

 

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/nichsr/esmallpox/biohazard_alibek.pdf

Anonymous ID: 0c391a Dec. 25, 2018, 7:44 a.m. No.4463463   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3489 >>3527

>>4463278

I don't know what broad spectrum treatment of a patient would be, but there is a constellation of interactions between any particular host and any particular potential pathogen that determines the outcome of the encounter.

 

Vaccination just addresses one: humoral immunity. However, within that strategy, the host itself individually responds to the components of the vaccine and that outcome may be positive or negative for the host depending upon many factors. So maybe that is what you mean by broad spectrum treatment - one vaccine for all unique individuals.

 

Maybe you opt out of an unnecessary vaccine like for HPV or chickenpox, but what about tetanus which still kills worldwide (~300,000 annually; https://www.who.int/immunization/diseases/tetanus/en/).

 

Or what about rabies (100% mortality) if needed? Or polio? Smallpox was eradicated worldwide through mass vaccination and has not appeared since 1977 and will not likely again unless released from a lab where it is stored. The upsurge in pertussis in the US has been due to avoidance of the vaccine. Well, pertussis vaccine is not to protect adults but infants who come into contact with - mostly - adults with pertussis.

 

Then there is the very useful practice called herd immunity, which operates at the scale of public health.

 

The vax debate is very complex - including moral issues such as the use of cells from aborted human babies to produce components - and to my mind requires long, detailed, careful thought and analysis of verifiable facts to reach an individual conclusion for a course of action/non-action. I support all who are trying to find their way through the quandary.

Anonymous ID: 0c391a Dec. 25, 2018, 7:55 a.m. No.4463548   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3669

>>4463489

I don't believe there is any active or planned strategy for broad spectrum vaccination as you mean. But that is Alibek's point - such a program would likely kill the host.

Anonymous ID: 0c391a Dec. 25, 2018, 8:09 a.m. No.4463648   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3675

>>4463527

The complexity arises from the complexity of host:pathogen interactions. Far more complex than something like…say…human:rattle snake interactions. At any rate, specific immunity is a natural phenomenon. Vaccination is intended to replicate that process without getting sick from the pathogen.

 

Rabies as a lethal pathogen was know from early human history. Pasteur developed and administered the first successful vaccine to a human - Joseph Meister, 9 y/o, 1185. The etiolig virus (rabies) has been known since work by Remlinger in the first decade of the 20th century.