Was the mess in Syria sparked by Libia? - Tucker Carlson 1/3/19

Part 1

>Gen. Flynn's DIA knew everything about what was going on in Benghazi. The Behghazi attack and ousting Qaddafi caused the mess in Syria.

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton

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Tucker: Well the war on terror has been going on for more than 17 years now and every year America seems to intervene in another country, but for some reason ever allowed to declare victory and go home. take for example America's involvement in Syria. New documents from the Obama administration show that the roots of America's involvement there were caused directly by our intervention in Libya - the one that destroyed the regime for no obvious reason in Muammar Qaddafi. Tom Fitton, the president Judicial Watch in who joins us tonight.

So Tom, this is one puzzle piece that I've been waiting to locate for a long time and it answers a question in part, why were all those Americans in Benghazi in the first place? And it looks like they were part of or witness to arms movements from Qaddafi stockpiles to rebels in Syria am I misstating this?

Fitton: No you're not mistating it. We have DIA documents that we obtained in 2015 showing in 2012 our defense establishment was telling everyone else in the Obama administration that weapons were flowing from Benghazi into Syria, that we were supporting the terrorists in Syria, and they were also warning that between the border Syria and Iraq you had the major armies pulling back and into that gap, they warned Isis might emerge and establish a Caliphate - have dire consequences for the region. Everything was on the table and it was all it looks like started because of the collapse the Gaddafi regime.

Tucker: That what we precipitated

Fitton: October 2011 up until September 2012, which was the attack on Benghazi our special mission compound, we knew arms are flowing out. We knew it down to the number of shells, sniper rifles, and such going out so we had enough information to know that level of detail, you can bet we had enough information to stop it.

Tucker: Well speaking for myself I had no information as an American citizen and that's what bothers me so we killed or helped Qaddafi get overthrown, oversaw his death, and then helped move arms from his country to the next country and fed this horrible civil war what up at the hands of lunatics. Our money in our name and we had no idea this was going on why.

Fitton: Well exactly right and this is why it was important to talk about these documents again as the President is making these decisions about Syria. It shows that he had quite the mess that was left to him by the Obama administration an administration that evidently did not exist according to the major media because they don't want to report on any of its policy choices in the Middle East in the Middle Eastern region, and it looks like Benghazi and the Libyan mess caused a Syria war and President Trump's being blamed

Tucker: I'm asking Republican leaders of Congress about this at the time. Are we overseeing arms shipments from Libya to some nutcase group in Syria and all of them kind of look like I don't know what that and they were lying. Like both parties knew this was happening they lied.

Fitton: We were watching them Hillary Clinton was told about them. We were warned about the fact that you had the Isis emerging in the Middle East

Tucker: yeah

Fitton: We were supporting a terrorist in Syria and we're not allowed to talk about it anymore because the President Trump is making decisions

Tucker: Thank you for for tying that piece up and I hope …

Fitton: Quickly, know who ran DIA at the time? General Mike Flynn.

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Was the mess in Syria sparked by Libia? - Tucker Carlson 1/3/19

Part 2

>We've stayed in Syria because its lining the pockets in politicians who have invested real money into companies that profit from the war. We HAD to get out quickly because there were 10's of thousands of Turkish troops ready to attack the Kurds in N. Syria. Putin has been playing both sides. POTUS has put Putin in a [pickle] because now he has to decide between the Turks or Iran/Syria.

Ret Army Col Douglas MacGregor

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Tucker: Next Douglas McGregor watches carefully. He's retired US Army Colonel, author of the terrific book "Margin of Victory". He joins us tonight. Colonel, thank you very much for coming on. So if you believe in civilian control the military it should be as simple as the President saying "This is what we're going to do" but it doesn't seem to be that simple.

Colonel: No I think there's a problem and you've got to remember that most of your senior officers are products of the Clinton/Bush/Obama era so they have a lot invested in this. Remember that the people who live in the 7-zip codes in and around Washington DC have all become millionaires as a result of their investment in these failed operations.

Tucker: that's not a talking point, that's literally true.

Colonel: Yes of course. So you put the two together and you have a lot of resistance to ending something that's being profitable for them, it hasn't been profitable for the American people. It's been a disaster. Trillions of dollars in debt over the last 17 years, thousands of people killed and wounded and for what? The answer is not much.

Tucker: It just seems like if you're looking for a crisis, a constitutional crisis, or something that would undermine democracy as we have practiced it for 240 years, it's the idea of the unelected subverting the power of the elected, right? I mean isn't that democratic by definition?

Colonel: The problem is though the unelected are being supported by many of the elected to obstruct this decision to leave. There's another reason for this in addition to the problem with money. Historically when we leave as we did

when we left Vietnam right we're out permanently.

Tucker: yeah

Colonel: People know once we leave Syria, once we get completely out of Iraq, once we get completely out of Afghanistan it's over. President Trump is going to do that. That's very clear. This pause is just that, it is a pause. We had to get out of northern Syria quickly. The reason for that is simply there were tens of thousands of Turkish troops poised to attack the Kurds, the terrorists who have been attacking Turkey in northern Syria. We got the Syrian government to go in there, we got out. Now we have created an enormous problem for Mr. Putin. Because Mr. Putin has cultivated the Turks, mr. Putin has also cultivated his Iranian and Syrian allies. He's got to make a choice - does he allow the Turks into Syria? Then he loses his position with the Syrians and the Iranians. So the notion that mr. Putin has somehow or another won something is absurd. This has been a very clever move on the part of the president.

Tucker: So if you see like six or seven senators and talking heads in a row repeating the same talking point like robots "This is a Christmas present for Putin"

Colonel: Right

Tucker: That's like prima facie evidence that they're dumb right?

Colonel: Well you could say stupid but obviously they're briefed by only one side and that side has no interest in the truth. The truth is that by getting out of the way, we have eliminated the consensus that was holding these various diverse partners together. There is no reason why the Turks, the Russians, the Iranians should cooperate at all and that's a good thing.

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Yes.

Who knows where the bodies are buried?

>Gen. Flynn

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I love reading Q posts because they always point us in the right direction, but I'm not sure it's critical to what we are doing. We all continue to dig if Q posts or not.

Judicial Watch is a massive goldmine of open source information.