Anonymous ID: e6e778 Jan. 6, 2019, 12:15 a.m. No.4623792   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>4187 >>4221 >>4230 >>4287 >>4370

De-fanging the MSM in 2019: How they lie and how to expose them

 

An anon posted on a story claiming that conservatives mocked Ocasio-Cortez for her college dancing videos. Dave Rubin replyed as follows: "The story was completely made up. Fake News for all to see." He went on to say that many such stories are created by leftwing journalists to smear those they don't like; see >>4620661 pb). But in an open forum, anyone can post. Anyone. Like the C_A. MSM. Foreign agents. Even aliens. (Aliens??? Hey, don't quote me as a tin-foil hatter, MSM, just JOKING!!!)

 

Here's the strategy I'd use if I were a lying, ruthless, amoral SOB who would use "any means necessary" to destroy those with whom I disagreed:

  1. Hire someone to post objectional material (racist memes, etc) in a way where identity can't be easily traced (e.g. the chans)

  2. Claim your enemies did it ("extreme rightwingers")

  3. Condemn the enemies for hate speech ("Racist!" "Sexist!" "Nazi!")

  4. Claim that hate speech "has been shown" to cause hateful action (fake science, but what the hey??)

  5. Demand the haters be silenced (social media policies tightened, laws enacted)

IMO, this is exactly what the DS and their minions have been doing. Can't prove #1, but neither can they prove it's conservatives who post nasty memes. Anons know it's shills. They probably do, too. In fact, in some case, they probably ARE the shills.

 

Time to de-fang the MSM

a. Make them objectively define hate speech

They can't.

'''b. Re the idea that violent talk violent behavior:'''

Do they think going straight to violence is better? Or that we should ban debate clubs?

c. Re "objectionable" posts on the chans:

Don't they know it's dumb to attack a group for its content, when it's an open forum where ANYONE can post?

d. Challenge the idea that AI is good enough to decipher our intent using language:

If today's AI is so good, how come our pricey phones still can't decipher what we say to them half the time?

 

Caps

Examples of the fake analyses and (mostly) cluster analystical tools the MSM trots out to show that conservatives are violence-prone, Nazi extremists. Lotsa sizzle, not much steak. Based on loose correlations, at best. Rely mainly on appeals to authority, well-articulated lies, and top notch graphics (links are below).

 

= Data & Society pdf reveals the "alternative influence network" (AIN), 60 "extremist" YT channels linked to show their influence.

 

= Network Contagion Research Inst: Cluster analysis depicts how objectionable memes are interrelated and spread (purports to show that anons accustom people to anti-semitic memes by pairing them with "nice" memes like Pepe on /pol/)

 

= AlgoTransparency: Branching algorithm purported to show how YT directs users to sites that supposedly attract more users and/or espouse more "extreme" views, leading to the radicalization of users.

 

= Albright's Micro-Propaganda Machine (MPM): โ€œA picture of the entire ecosystem of misinformation a few days after the [2016 Presidential] election.โ€

https://www.wired.com/story/shadow-politics-meet-the-digital-sleuth-exposing-fake-news/

 

= Hamilton68: Alliance for Securing Democracy's mysterious algorithm said to track "Russian online influence" although they won't tell us anything about how it works or the 600 "bot" accounts they monitor.

 

>>4283805 From WaPo: "Hateful Conspiracies Thrive on YouTube" (cites all below but Hamilton 68)

>>4303851 Fake research groups justify new MSM attacks on "conspiracy theorists" (Data & Society)

>>4319183 Fake research groups justify new MSM attacks on "conspiracy theorists" (Network Contagion Research Institute)

>>4326130 Fake research groups justify new MSM attacks on "conspiracy theorists" (AlgoTransparency)

>>4332270 Fake research groups justify new MSM attacks on "conspiracy theorists" (Columbia Univ. Tow Ctr for Digital Journalism)

>>4513656 The Alliance for Securing Democracy: the group behind New Knowedge & Hamilton 68

Anonymous ID: e6e778 Jan. 6, 2019, 12:28 a.m. No.4623861   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3885

>>4623702

Easy to assume it's shills when it's just anons interested in conversation orโ€“sometimesโ€“doing battle with shills. I got fired up once because I really didn't like what was happening. I was taking a lot of shill flak when one of them decided to tell me I was posting too much. He didn't get a very civil reply.

Anonymous ID: e6e778 Jan. 6, 2019, 12:33 a.m. No.4623882   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3900 >>3911 >>3926 >>3953

>>4623704

If you mean avoiding racist (etc) language, that's a problem here.

First, it's a free speech zone, people like to say things they can't say elsewhere.

Second, it's the chans. Enough said.

Three, shills will do it in spades anyways, and it will look like it's coming from us.

 

I just try to focus on doing the work, the diggs, the memes, and figure God will have to sort out the rest.

Anonymous ID: e6e778 Jan. 6, 2019, 12:36 a.m. No.4623896   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4623709

then why not do something useful? Do you meme, dig, pray, help newbies or edgy anons? Damn, there are a lot of things to do instead of focusing of what's not perfect. Q is back, how many things could you dig on?

Anonymous ID: e6e778 Jan. 6, 2019, 12:56 a.m. No.4624009   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4623785

A friend kept saying "It doesn't make sense" over and over. I finally sat him down and said, "yes, It does." It didn't make sense to him because he couldn't conceive of somebody deliberately trying to induce chaos and wreck the country. That's a big red pill to swallow.

 

They will stop electing dems when they are able to accept that truth.

Anonymous ID: e6e778 Jan. 6, 2019, 1:19 a.m. No.4624113   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>4623932

Well, last night I was searching on an article about Obama's fuckery with letting in children at the border who get into foster care and then get trafficked. I didn't have the cite handy so just put in some search terms.

 

No way, jose. I had to get the actual link to find it.

 

Lots of ways to bury unwanted information.