Anonymous ID: e8b854 Jan. 19, 2019, 8:28 a.m. No.4820456   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0647 >>0706 >>2638

Agreed that the Babylonian mystery religions corrupted Rabbinic Judaism.

 

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>>4813674

You claim to be a Catholic but you do not know what Catholicism teaches. The canon of scripture the Catholics accept include the Jewish scriptures. Mary and Jesus were born Jews as were all of the apostles including Peter.. Jesus fulfilled hundreds of old testament (Jewish) prophecies proving his identity as the promised Savior - https://www.biblicalreliability.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Jesus-Christ-foretold-of-in-Old-Testament-Scripture.pdf

 

The Old Testament (Jewish) scriptures have continuity with the New Testament scriptures. Jesus quoted from them, so did Peter (who you wrongly claim as your first Pope) and those Jewish scriptures spoke of the coming King born of a virgin (Jesus Christ born of Mary - both Jews). That the God of the Jews is the God of the Christians is incontrovertible. I will give you a few examples:

 

Ephesians 2:19-20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone

 

Those prophets were the Jewish prophets who wrote the Old Testament, those apostles were chosen by Jesus from the Jews and Jesus himself was born into the Jewish religion. All through the scriptures, there is a rock, a cornerstone refereed to, who is Christ (not Peter). See also 1 Peter 2:4-8, Psalm 118:22, Matt. 21:42, 44-45, Acts 4:11, Luke 6:47-48.

 

Matthew 21:42 Jesus said to them, Have you never read in the Scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone (Psalm 118:22). That is why I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you (Jews) and given to a people who will produce fruit for it (Gentiles). The person who falls over this stone (Christ) will be broken to pieces, but it will crush anyone on whom it falls.

 

The Jews rejected their Messiah, though even Moses had declared him. In fact, Daniel had given the exact time of his arrival, when he would come as the promised seed who would ratify the covenant of faith with Abraham (Daniel 9:24-27). To this day, the Jewish people are kept in ignorance and forbidden to number the 70 weeks of Daniel (which prove who Christ is).

 

John 5:46-47 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?

 

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day, and he saw it and was glad. Then the Jews asked him, You are not even 50 years old, yet you have seen Abraham? Jesus said to them, Truly, I tell all of you with certainty, before there was an Abraham, I AM!

 

Moses and Abraham wrote about Jesus as you can clearly see, and this is in the Catholic bible. Can't get much more Jewish than that.

 

1 Cor. 10: 1-4 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. They all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

 

Paul wrote that, as he said, to prevent ignorance. So that people would know that it was the pre-incarnate Christ who was the God of the Jews and who had led them through the wilderness. In fact, every old testament manifestation of God was Christ, no one has ever seen the father (John 6:46).

 

If you hate Jews, you hate Christ and Mary who were both born Jews, and it is Christ who is the God of the Jews (though they reject him) according to your own Catholic Bible. Stop the hatred. God is love, which is also in your Catholic bible.

 

1 Corinthians 13:2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.

 

1 John 4:7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.

 

You can hate systems and institutions that misrepresent God, hypocrites who twist the scriptures and use religious pretense as a shield to hide behind while they hurt little children. But love the people caught up in false systems who are just trying to find God and have been duped by the adepts who use religious pageantry and false teachings to blind them. Whether the system in question is Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, or some other system. We are told to worship God in Spirit and in truth (John 4:24) and what form of religion God the father advocates.

 

James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Anonymous ID: e8b854 Jan. 19, 2019, 12:27 p.m. No.4823445   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2638

>>4820706

How does the New Testament start?

 

Matthew 1:1 “The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham”

Hebrews 7:14, “For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah,”

 

What does it explicitly teach all through the Old Testament - that Christ would come, Daniel even gave the exact time. He was to come as the promised seed of Abraham and confirm the covenant. This he did with his own blood, exactly on time, as prophesied.

 

Daniel 9:24-27 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people… and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself…And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease…

Anonymous ID: e8b854 Jan. 19, 2019, 4:39 p.m. No.4827370   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7569 >>7816 >>2638

>>4826255

Who do you hate? If you say Jews, do you mean ethnic Jews? Many of them are secular with no faith to speak of. Do you mean religious Jews? If so, which sect - Orthodox, Conservative, or Reform?

 

Karaite Judaism has the Tanakh alone as its supreme authority. They do not follow the oral traditions that corrupt Rabbinic Judaism with Babylonian occultism. Do you hate them too?

 

What about Messianic Jews? They are actually consistent in their beliefs. They believe Moses and the prophets who wrote of the coming Messiah and recognize Jesus Christ as the promised seed. Do you hate them?

 

If you want to hate something, hate what God hates - idolatry (Deuteronomy 12:31; 16:22), child sacrifice, sexual perversion (Leviticus 20:1–23), and those who do evil (Psalm 5:4–6; 11:5). You will find good and evil in all races and all groups. However, you will especially find wickedness in high places, none more so than the Vatican. It is the anti-Christ system of prophecy and guilty of unspeakable crimes against humanity - https://www.facebook.com/notes/occupy-vatican/the-papacy-is-the-anti-christ/1757453114287025/

 

Rome is the center of the global cabal that is corrupting governments and it uses "Court Jews and Capos" to carry out its dirty work in order to "scapegoat" the Jewish people. If you are against occultism good, “the Jesuits have practiced not only occultism but BLACK MAGIC in its worst form, more than any other body of men; and to it, they owe in large measure their power and influence.” – H. P. Blavatsky, “Theosophy or Jesuitism?”

 

FROM JOHN ADAMS (2nd President of America) TO THOMAS JEFFERSON 9 August, 1816

My History of the Jesuits is not elegantly written, but is supported by unquestionable authorities, is very particular and very horrible. Their restoration is indeed “a step towards darkness,” cruelty, perfidy, despotism, death and—!

 

THOMAS JEFFERSON TO JOHN ADAMS 1 August, 1816

I dislike, with you, their restoration, because it marks a retrograde step from light towards darkness.

 

It did not take long for the Jesuits to infiltrate and take over America. They wrote the upper degrees of Masonry making them Luciferian like themselves. Washington DC is built on Jesuit land, which used to be called Rome Maryland. The capital building sits inside one of their symbols, a giant owl. They control not only zionism but practically the whole world through knighthoods, secret societies, wealth, and political intrigue.

Anonymous ID: e8b854 Jan. 20, 2019, 9:02 a.m. No.4834977   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5017 >>2638

>>4827569

> but cool job with the ”muh masons” - they actually have jewish kabbalah roots.

 

Perhaps you refer to this:

 

"All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabalah and return to it: everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of all the illuminati, Jacob Bœhme, Swedenborg, Saint-Martin, and others, is borrowed from the Kabalah; all the Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and their Symbols." Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry by Albert Pike - https://www.resist.com/Onlinebooks/Pike-MoralsAndDogma.pdf

 

The first problem with that statement is that Albert Pike was an admitted liar and Luciferian. " Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them." also "To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees: The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the higher degrees, maintained in the Purity of the Luciferian doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?"

 

Pike's religion (if you can call it that) expresses Gnostic Luciferianism as well as any proponent of it. Besides which, Masons themselves are not united on the relationship between Freemasonry and the Kabbala. Here we have (sauce) a Masonic site that says "Whatever intellectual or spiritual similarities there may be between Freemasonry and the Kabbalah, any historical links are strictly conjectural and unsupported" - http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/kabbalah.html

 

That the Kabbalah and elements of Jewish mysticism are incorporated into Masonry is indisputable in my opinion, but for me that that is not the issue. WHO incorporated those elements into Masonry? WHO created the degrees? WHO is at the top of the pyramid once you climb up through all the ranks and get past the endless lies. Where did all this pagan mysticism originate? It was embraced by mystics in many cultures (including the Jew) but it goes back to ancient Babylon.

 

"Kabbalah is the hidden wisdom of the Hebrew Rabbis of the middle ages derived from the older secret doctrines concerning divine things and cosmogony, which were combined into a theology after the time of the captivity of the Jews in Babylon. All the works that fall under the esoteric category are termed Kabalistic.” (Blavatsky, Theosophical Glossary, p. 168)

 

Alexandria was a center of occult knowledge but had its library destroyed, leaving Rome as the remaining major center of occultism. It had conquered the empires that came before it, absorbing their cultures and teachings. Babylon fell to the Medes and Persians, then came Greece, and then Rome. The esoteric mystery schools of Rome inherited the occult knowledge passed down through the centuries. It is the current center of occultism. The adepts reserve the esoteric for themselves and project a bastardized form of Christianity as the exoteric for the masses - Roman Catholicism.

 

It is true that the Jews were polluted by the same foul stream from Babylon but they are not the originators of this occult knowledge. Neither are they the masters of it, the Jesuits are in control, not the Jews. The Jesuits wrote the upper degrees of Masonry and control it. They are Luciferian occultists.

 

The Jesuit Connection to Freemasonry (FREE DOWNLOAD) - https://pinkbunnies.club/file/download/file_file/17

Masonry is Luciferian (FREE DOWNLOAD) - https://pinkbunnies.club/file/download/file_file/16

 

Why don't you click these pictures, blow them up big, and learn something new about the Masons.

Anonymous ID: e8b854 Jan. 20, 2019, 9:16 p.m. No.4843084   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3613 >>2638

>>4835384

> Did I say I hate anyone??

 

I highlighted your posts and checked the board. It was not you making the egregious hate posts I saw, my apologies. I apparently confused you with another anon. However, I do have a few problems with your point of view. First off, I will express where I am in agreement.

 

I do agree that most of the people who identify as Jews today are not Jews. At least not in the sense of adhering to what Christians call the Old Testament. I would also agree that the Talmud is abhorrent and that in the Bible there are many harsh statements about the Jews.

 

Where we differ, is that you leave out all the good things about the Jews. For example, Jesus is a Jew, the prophets and apostles are Jews, the bible was written by Jews. Let's not forget what Paul (a "Hebrew of Hebrews" and a Pharisee chosen by God to write most of the New Testament) said:

 

Romans 11: 25-29 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.

 

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a Christian Zionist. Dispensational futurism (from Darbyism) actually originated with a Spanish Jesuit named Fransico Ribera around 1590. He developed a counter-reformation eschatology called futurism. It REQUIRES a reconstituted Israel and REQUIRES a rebuilt temple. That is the rotten foundation of Zionism, a counter-reformation deception - https://www.facebook.com/notes/occupy-vatican/the-foundation-of-zionism-and-the-great-delusion-of-the-end-times/1846755722023430/

 

> what the fuck does that have to do with discussing who’s been fucking us over for millennia??

 

It is not the Jews, it is the Jesuits we should be concerned about. The Bible identifies the Papacy as the anti-Christ system. Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70 by the Romans and the Jews have been downtrodden ever since. It is Rome who laid the foundation for the modern Zionist state and it is Rome employing Court Jews, like its Rothschild bankers, and capos like Soros, to create the illusion that it is the Jews in control.

 

Also, is this not your post recommending the Gospel of Thomas which is Gnostic? Do you not know it is fraudulent and that Gnosticism is incompatible with authentic Christianity?

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Anonymous ID: e8b854 Jan. 21, 2019, 7:16 a.m. No.4846195   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2638

>>4843613

The Bible itself says that Jesus was a Jew.

 

Matthew 1:1 “The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham”

Hebrews 7:14, “For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah,”

==Mark 15:2And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto him, Thou sayest it.

==Pilate also wrote an inscription and put it on the cross. It read, “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews. Many of the Jews read this sign, because the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Aramaic, Latin, and Greek.…”

 

Not only was he a Jew but he was the "King of the Jews", written in three languages, so that all the Jews of the time would be able to read it.

 

Historians say he was a Jew, " Jesus was a Galilean Jew" Vermes, Geza (1981). Jesus the Jew: A Historian's Reading of the Gospels. Philadelphia: First Fortress. pp. 20, 26, 27, 29.

 

The word "Jew" in Hebrew, is "Yehudi" (from Judah) and Judaism literally means "Judah-ism". The kingdom of Judah, was split from Israel after Solomon (I Kings 12; II Chronicles 10) and Yehudi came to refer to the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi, and remnants of other tribes.

 

The geneology of Jesus is given straight away in the New Testament in Matthew 1:1 showing that he is indeed a Jew, by birth. He was also a Jew by religion, born under the law, in fact he fulfilled the law and nailed it to his cross (Matthew 5:17, Colossians 2:14).

 

Galatians 4:4 - But when the time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, 5to redeem those under the Law,

 

If you take a biblical and historical view of what constitutes a Jew, then to say Jesus was not a Jew is absolute foolishness. It would be more accurate to say that those who who call themselves Jews today are not actually Jews. In large part, they have been polluted by the oral traditions, which incorporate the Babylonian mystery religions.

 

Today, all Jewish religious movements agree that a person may be a Jew either by birth or through conversion. Many ethnic Jews are secular. Many converted Jews practice occultism mixed with Judaism. So is a Jew today really a Jew in a sense that Christ and the apostles were? I would suggest only a tiny fraction even come close.

 

So in my view, the issue here is the defining of terms. Instead of saying Jesus was not a Jew, what you should be saying is that the people calling themselves Jews today are not Jews. At least not in the biblical or historical sense. For the most part, their version of Judaism is syncretized with Babylonian occultism. The same thing happened with Christianity, corruption is not unique to the Jews.

 

Emperor Constantine legalized Christianity with The Edict of Milan in 313 A.D., later the Edict of Thessalonica in 380 AD made Christianity the state religion. There was a push to unite the empire by making it easy for pagans to join the Church. Pagan shrines to the "Mother Goddess" became shrines to Mary, statues of Jupiter became Peter, Ishtar's day became Easter, etc. Many unbiblical pagan beliefs and practices were syncretized with Christianity and a union of church and state took place to form a religious-based political control system, a theocracy. Unfortunately, it put an apostate, paganized, heretical form of Christianity in power. It formed the papacy which martyred the real Christians (and Jews) by the millions in cruel inquisitions and eventually led to the Protestant Reformation against its heresies.

Anonymous ID: e8b854 Jan. 22, 2019, 8:04 p.m. No.4869274   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9351 >>2638

>>4863299

 

You have said that Jesus wasn't a Jew but your "authority" is Michael Hoffman and he has stated otherwise. On page 25 of "Judaism’s Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded,” Michael Hoffman calls Jesus Christ the Jewish Messiah of Israel. (see attached screenshot).

 

On that, he agrees with the Bible;

 

Matthew 1:1 “The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham”

Hebrews 7:14, “For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah,”

Pilate also wrote an inscription and put it on the cross. It read, “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews. Many of the Jews read this sign, because the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Aramaic, Latin, and Greek.…”

 

Instead of saying Jesus was not a Jew, what you should be saying is that he was the ultimate Jew, who fulfilled the law of Moses and confirmed the covenant with Abraham with his own blood (Hebrews 13:20, Daniel 9:27) That is why the Bible says salvation is from the Jews (John 4:22) because all those who have faith in Christ come under the Abrahamic covenant (Galatians 3:16).

 

Hoffman moves the goal posts. He argues that Judaism was really Yahwism, and equates modern Judaism with Talmudic Judaism. That is not an accurate equivocation, there were and are many divisions and sects of Judaism. Karaite Judaism rejects the oral traditions. Secular and atheist Jews are still Jews by birth but have no religion, Talmudic or otherwise. Messianic Jews take a correct view of the Old Testament prophecies concerning Christ, still they identify as Jews, and don't fit Hoffman's forced definition.

 

I agree with him that the Talmud and other additions to the Tanakh are wrong and in fact an inroad for Babylonian Occultism. I also agree with him that to be consistent with the teachings of the Hebrew Bible one would need to accept Christ as the Messiah. So that in a sense, there is no such thing today as a "consistent" Jew because those who reject Christ are rejecting Moses and the other prophets who wrote about him (John 5:39-47). Those who accept Christ are Messianic Jews, but since in Christ we are all the same (Galatians 3:28), they might as well drop the Jewish distinction and call themselves Christian.

 

He says this on his website “Judaism is the religion of the Pharisees who killed Jesus Christ. (I Thess. 2:14-16).” In reality, Judaism was the religion of Christ whom they killed. His killers were Jews by birth but they rejected the chief cornerstone ( Isaiah 28:16-17) of their religion, just as their forefathers stoned the prophets who came before him. They rejected the great I AM (John 8:58), the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob who led them through the desert (1 Cor. 10:4). Other Jews accepted him and were saved. In other words, “the Jews who killed the Lord Jesus” are not representative of ALL Jews or even “the Jews”. In fact, they were not under the Abraham covenant by which we are all (Jew and Gentile) saved because they rejected the promised seed (Galatians 3:16).

 

Romans 9:6-8 "For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. …In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

 

The apostles of Christ and the early converts were Jews by both birth and religion. There were and still are good Jews and bad Jews. Just like there are people who identify as Christians but are wicked, such as the pedophile Roman Catholic Priests and the Pope who covers up for them. Do they represent ALL Christians? Do they represent Christianity? Does it make the Bible invalid just because Rome teaches exta-biblical and anti-biblical heresies?

 

The fact that the Talmud has some shockingly immoral teachings, or that there were and are some bad people who are either ethnically, or by identification, Jewish, doesn't make the ALL Jews bad. Neither does it invalidate the 3/4 of the Christian bible which came from the Jews, nor the salvation that comes from the Jews, which is in Christ. I think a more nuanced and less extremist view would be helpful. Let us not forget, God is not yet done with the Jews, as Paul clearly stated.

 

Romans 11: 1-2, 25-30 "…Hath God cast away his people? God forbid… God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew… Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.

Anonymous ID: e8b854 Jan. 22, 2019, 8:49 p.m. No.4869690   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0224

>>4869351

I do not agree. The bible says there were Jews. I'll take the bible over you and Hoffman any day of the week. Christ was called "King of the Jews" in 3 languages above his cross. When he was born a star foretold him.

 

Matthew 2:2 "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him."

 

Paul who wrote most of the new testament said this:

 

Philippians 3:5 I was circumcised when I was eight days old. I am a pure-blooded citizen of Israel and a member of the tribe of Benjamin, a real Hebrew if there ever was one! I was a member of the Pharisees, who demand the strictest obedience to the Jewish law.

 

The word "Jew" in Hebrew, is "Yehudi" (from Judah) and Judaism literally means "Judah-ism". The kingdom of Judah was split from Israel after Solomon (I Kings 12; II Chronicles 10) and Yehudi came to refer to the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi, and remnants of other tribes. Now if you were to say there was no Israel at the time, you would in a sense be correct because of the lost tribes of Israel. Jews and Judaism were all that remained at the time of Christ. I think you are trying to say is that it was corrupted by oral traditions and for the most part that was true.

 

However, God always preserves a remnant so there were always some that could be referred to as "pure" (no guile - John 1:47).

 

God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”. And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace.

Anonymous ID: e8b854 Jan. 23, 2019, 4:56 a.m. No.4872638   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6960

>>4870224

 

Ad hominem attacks only prove you don't have a valid argument to bring against what I posted. I already said a long time ago I agree there are horrible things in the Talmud. I also agree that the Bible has many verses chastising the Jews. However, that does not make Hoffman's views correct. You are ignoring other verses and in fact the main thrust of the scriptures concerning the Jews.

 

I don't think this is by accident. The Jesuits try to blame all the evils of the world on the Jews and make it look like it is the Jews are in control. It is actually the Jesuits who are in control and they use Jews as their scapegoats. They employ Court Jews and Capos to lend credence to the accusation. However, Rome sieged Jerusalem in 70 AD and the Jews have been downtrodden ever since. In fact, they have been persecuted.

 

Even today there is a Muslim Mosque sitting on the Temple Mount and Rome has bought up all the Holy Sites, so who is in control? In fact, it was Francisco Ribera in 1590, a Spanish Jesuit who laid the foundation for Christian Zionism by inventing the counter-reformation eschatology of futurism that REQUIRES a reconstituted Israel and rebuilt Jewish temple. It is Rome's Rothschild bankers who financed the modern Zionist state, it is Rome's creation. Rome has always wanted Jerusalem and if you look into the history of the Knights Templar you will understand that - http://www.knightstemplarorder.org/templars-freemasons/

 

You should also understand the Babylonian mystery religions that permeate Masonry today comes from the Jesuits, not the Jews, yet who gets the blame? The wealth of the world is Jesuit controlled but they use Court Jews as bankers and who gets the blame? You are listening to a disinfo agent who is trying to scapegoat the Jews and divert people from the real controllers, the Jesuits.

 

I don't agree with all of Eric Phelps views, especially on racism, but he has compiled some valid historical arguments in the attached video. More important to me, is that you deal with the bible verses I brought up in these posts rather than make ad hominem attacks. I agree that the Jews, for the most part, rejected their Messiah and they corrupted themselves with the oral traditions, that much is true. However, the Kingdom was taken from them, desolations were poured out, and they have been downtrodden ever since - they don't control the world.

 

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Anonymous ID: e8b854 Jan. 24, 2019, 7:08 a.m. No.4886960   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4870224

I have already responded to your ad hominem attack here.

>>4872638

 

However, I have something to add. It seems to me you are misrepresenting Hoffman. I am beginning to familiarize myself with his work and he does not share your view that Jesus was not a Jew and that no Jews existed at the time of Christ. (See attached screenshots).

 

Most scholars tend to be precise with their language and to make distinctions. He does so in this interview located here - https://astutenews.com/2018/06/24/orthodox-judaism-is-a-religion-of-lying-and-deceit-the-saker-interviews-michael-hoffman/

 

"Karaites are the Judaics that Christians imagine Orthodox Judaism to be: an Old Testament-only religion."

"No doubt the Tsars had the good sense to differentiate between Karaites and Talmudic Orthodox Judaism."

"whether one is an atheist-Judaic, a Buddhist-Judaic or a Karaite-Judaic.”

"As for the Neturei Karta… the Eda Haredit community… offshoots of the more substantial Hasidic sects like Toldot Aharon and Satmar"

 

So he does recognize distinctions between the various divisions and sects, some of which he acknowledges are anti-Zionist and anti-Talmudic. Unfortunately, he also tends to generalize, referring to Jews disparagingly and monolithically, as if they were all Talmudic Jews. I think that is a gross mistake and one you have seized upon. Most Jews have never read the Talmud and don't know what it teaches. In fact, most modern Jews are secular and the vast majority of those who are religious are not raping 3-year-old girls or doing any of the horrible things described in the obscure texts you have posted.

 

I think Hoffman's point that most Christians imagine modern Jews to be Karaites or Old Testament-only, is correct. I also agree that modern Israel is in some sense a counterfeit. Those are valid points, there is some ignorance, even deception, present in the Christian community. However, most modern Israels are not Talmudic as his rants would have you believe, they are secular (see attached chart). To define modern Jews as if they believe and practice the most horrible extra-biblical writings of its heretics, is at best inaccurate. How many know about, let alone practice, the obscure texts you have listed?

 

I could point to official Catholic Councils like Trent where anathemas ( http://www.biblebc.com/Roman%20Catholicism/summary_of_trent.htm ) are pronounced for not accepting Rome's heresies. Non-compliance brought not just a curse, but slow torture and death, where Rome had the power to conduct inquisitions. As late as the 1940s, in Yugoslavia, the Vatican used slow torture and death to force conversion to its heresies. Should the Catholic's heretical writings and horrific deeds be used to vilify or represent all Christians? If not, then why use that tactic to vilify Jews?

 

As I said before, a more nuanced and less extremist view would be helpful. A distinction has to be maintained between Talmudic Judaism and Judaism, just as a distinction has to be made between Roman Catholicism and Christianity. Definition of terms and precision of language would go a long way toward communicating legitimate points without slandering and defaming innocents. Above all, the biblical truth of who Jesus is should not be obscured. Salvation comes by faith in Jesus Christ, A JEW, the promised seed who fulfilled the Jewish law and ratified the covenant with Abraham with his own blood.