Anonymous ID: 2a2baf Jan. 11, 2019, 7 p.m. No.4719378   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9501 >>9561

>>4706578 PB Notable. The meaning of Israel is incorrect as given in the post.

Israel is a transliteration to English instead of a translation of any Hieroglyphic. Transliteration (as opposed to translation) attempts to use the English letters to give you the approximation of the sound. Translation may give you a completely different sound, but will give you meaning There are no Egyptian Hieroglyphics involved in the meaning to the word Israel. It is not even a Transliteration from Egyptian much less translation.

 

Question tho:

 

Why use the English "transliteration" that did not even exist back then, to hop over to the "Egyptian" and pretend there is some kind of Egyptian translation going on, when the name is Hebrew, and has actual meaning in Hebrew, with "sauce" in the ancient writings about why it means what it means. Hebrew is not a dead language. People who speak it today know what it means as well as people who speak English know what the word bathroom means, so, what gives?

 

Israel means "Wrestled with God" in Hebrew. The reason for calling the future Hebrews "Israel" is clearly stated in the text written by the Hebrews. Isra-el written in English is simply how it sounds, spelled out in English. It is a combination of two words like "bathroom".

 

See sauce below for the Hebrew translation instead of transliteration.

 

In addition, I would mention, one can see this is wrong with a little critical thinking:

 

IS standing for "ISIS" is a stretch, and an English rendition, in a sorry attempt to use the transliteration (sound) for a translation (meaning).

 

RA is a transliteration of the Egyptian word. Transliteration means you were given the SOUND of the Egyptian word, and not the meaning.

So think for a moment about what you already know to be true:

 

If we had a real Egyptian word here, it would be a hieroglyphic, (photographic) not a series of letters in English in a language that did not even exist at the time the the name "Israel" or the God "Ra" was given.

The very English letters of "Israel" are set the way they are in an attempt to make out the "sound" instead of translating anything Hebrew to English. It is definitely not Egyptian.

Isra-el is an English transliteration (sound but not meaning) of a Hebrew word, not an Egyptian hieroglyphic.

 

EL is also a Hebrew word, standing alone, or as the ending of a word. Alone, it is the short form for the religiously unmentionable name of God" YHWH.

 

Notice all of the Hebrew Angels have names that end with the sound "el". ex, Michael, Gabriel?

 

When stuck on the end of the three letter Hebrew root word, it would mean "God" or "of God"

 

Micha"el"

From the Hebrew name מִיכָאֵל (Mikha'el) meaning "who is like God?". This is a rhetorical question, implying no person is like God.

 

https://www.behindthename.com/name/michael

 

Gabri"el"

Etymology of the name Gabriel

The name Gabriel consists of two parts. The final bit is אל (El), the abbreviated form of אלהים, Elohim, the genus God:

The first segment of the name Gabriel comes from the verb גבר (gabar), meaning to be mighty:

and so on.

 

http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Gabriel.html

 

Because Israel is a Hebrew word, it is constructed exactly the same way as the two names above:

 

Sauce:

 

Dictionaries - Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology - Israel https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/israel/

 

Israel [N] [E] [H] [S]

The Name and People. Jacob, grandson of Abraham, was named Israel after he had wrestled with God ( Gen32:28 ). This name is a combination of the Hebrew words for "wrestle" and"God" (because sareta [you have wrestled] with God [‘el] and men you will be called yisrael).

When Jacob had returned to Canaan, God commanded him to settle in Bethel; there God appeared to Jacob again and repeated that his name was no longer Jacob but Israel. This confirmation of the naming was followed by God confirming his covenant with Jacob ( Gen 35:9-12 ),emphasizing specific elements of the covenant he had made with Abraham ( Gen 17:1-8 ). The name, expressing the concept of wrestling, clinging firmly to God, and overcoming, and God's confirming of his covenant with Jacob, indicates that Israel is to be understood as Jacob's covenant name.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/israel/

 

Love to all. Lets get it right. We have the right to the truth of things.