right, I don't get parliamentary governance
thanks, that's what I was going for
so he'd have to resign from the EU parliament and then join the UK parliament to be PM, how plausible is that?
genuinely curious
you have to go back
that's retarded
Jesus was gnostic, he wasn't a practicing jew
you're historically ignorant as fuck
gnosticism → christianity (as Jesus as a prophet, the son of God, and within the Holy Trinity)
From earliest times Messengers of the Light have come forth from the True God in order to assist humans in their quest for Gnosis. Only a few of these salvific figures are mentioned in Gnostic scripture; some of the most important are Seth (the third Son of Adam), Jesus, and the Prophet Mani. The majority of Gnostics always looked to Jesus as the principal savior figure
In the Gnostic view, there is a true, ultimate and transcendent God, who is beyond all created universes and who never created anything in the sense in which the word “create” is ordinarily understood. While this True God did not fashion or create anything, He (or, It) “emanated” or brought forth from within Himself the substance of all there is in all the worlds, visible and invisible. In a certain sense, it may therefore be true to say that all is God, for all consists of the substance of God. By the same token, it must also be recognized that many portions of the original divine essence have been projected so far from their source that they underwent unwholesome changes in the process. To worship the cosmos, or nature, or embodied creatures is thus tantamount to worshipping alienated and corrupt portions of the emanated divine essence.
http://gnosis.org/gnintro.htm
BUT MUH ROMAN CATHOLICISM, which is Roman Pagan Monotheism (Mithraism) with a focus on Jesus being the Sun God
did you mean to put "your" in the echoes, you're disparaging "us" meaning you
confused by that on what your position is
>mfw the nonsensical bullshit in the linked post is moar believable than Jesus and the early christians being gnostic
REMINDER IF IT'S NOT IN THE BIBLE OR NOT APPROVED BY THE BIBLE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN AND IS SATANIC or someshit
Christianity GREW out of that movement
Roman "Catholicism" isn't real Christianity either, it's Roman Mithraism based on Jesus
Gnosis/Gnosticism originated in Greece ignorantfag
not everything started with Jesus
Gnosticism was merely the last “incarnation” of a very old belief system, going back at least to the 6th century BCE and probably much further even than that. That belief system was known as Orpheanism, after the Greek hero Orpheus. Orpheus was a son of Zeus, and an incredibly skilled musician. When his wife, whom he loved immeasurably, died, he followed her shade to the River Styx. She went across, while he remained on its earthly side, mourning her. He played on his flute such stirring laments, that even Hades, in his halls, heard it, and was moved to tears. He allowed Orpheus to come across the Styx and visit her, for only one day; he had to return by nightfall.
Unfortunately, the majority of Orphean beliefs are lost to us. This is not merely because of later Christian eradication of any record of them, but because they did not generally put any of their teachings in writing. The earliest Orpheans used music, songs and poetry, via oral tradition, to convey their teachings. They appear to have depended on songs, thereafter.
Another problem with understanding Orpheanism is, that it manifested in several different ways that we know of and probably others that we don’t. For example, the Pythagoreans were, very likely, an Orphean movement, founded by Pythagoras (or perhaps his mentor). Other Orphean communities and/or academies popped up throughout the Hellenistic world. Most were in the Aegean islands or in western Anatolia, the district known as Ionia.
Some Orphean communities were not well-received, for they were viewed as a collection of useless outcasts. Still, they tended to be very scholarly, and a number of Orpheans established schools or academies which taught a “conventional” Greek curriculum.
http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/gnostic.html
many of the early followers of Jesus WERE gnostic, and the gnostic traditions are seen all within Christianity
but my comparison to Catholicism is that the early Christians (literally followers of Christ) were moar gnostic than what you would think of as Catholic
>boomer megabiblefag
The majority of Gnostics always looked to Jesus as the principal savior figure.
http://gnosis.org/gnintro.htm
> But Christianity IS Gnostic, without a doubt
that's exactly my point
gnosticism had an influential impact on Jesus and the early Christians
CLEARLY Gnosticism isn't Christianity, they're distinct belief systems, but it's a historical fact Christianity was heavily influenced by it
some claim Jesus himself was a gnostic, or at least influenced by it