Anonymous ID: 5cda69 Jan. 21, 2019, 9:05 a.m. No.4847457   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7578

>>4847367 LB LB

read the post

congress CANNOT suspend the writ except in times of emergency

POTUS can

and the power IS subject to judicial review for checks and balance

OK? read moar and calm your tits

 

anon asked about Britt Grant

checked her bio and my idea on judges is i prefer those that never worked in the partisan political arena - if possible - not a DQ for me just a red flag as i like my judges non-partisan down the line

their job is to intepret follow and enforce the law NOT make it EVER and that has really gotten bad at all levels

plus another general observation about those who rise up the ranks super fast - another red flag for me - ivy league law school, SCOTUS clerkship - then govt work and then govt appt then judge then court of appeals all in ten years in really smells like cut outs and insider promotion to me

old school i guess

thats why i quit early

Anonymous ID: 5cda69 Jan. 21, 2019, 9:09 a.m. No.4847511   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4847405

well perhaps "extreme" is not the right word - sorry i apologize - no intent to offend you or People of Praise

my point is they are not mainstream even from the POV of evangelicals so she is not a politically viable nominee

plus i disagree with her on lawfag issues

carry on fren

Anonymous ID: 5cda69 Jan. 21, 2019, 9:11 a.m. No.4847527   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7588 >>7701

>>4847413

I follow the Bible and I am pro choice

GOD DEFINES THE BEGINNING OF LIFE AND ENTRY OF THE SOUL INTO A NEWBORN

Genesis 2:7 King James Version (KJV)

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

GOD COMMANDS ABORTION OF AN ADULTEROUS FETUS:

Numbers 5:11-22 King James Version (KJV)

11 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

12 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man's wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him,

13 And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled…

21 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;

22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.

GOD DECREESS THE PENALTY FOR CAUSING MISCARRAIGE - FINE ONLY AS JUDGE/HUSBAND DETERMINE - NOT MURDER

Exodus 21:22 King James Version (KJV)

22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

NOTE - pro -lifers cite this very same scripture for the opposite position - most scholars support the traditional and long established conclusion noted above - however, some do argue aganst this - their conclusions are questions - but see this article for full discussion:

https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1992/09/the-fetus-in-biblical-law

JESUS DID NOT ALTER THESE LAWS (THOUGH SOME - KOSHER LAWS AND SACRIFICE WERE MADE OBSOLETE BY JESUS)

Matthew 5:17 King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

 

Here is a link to an essay why the Bible does not prohibut abortion: http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/articles/bible.shtml

 

OK so now here are Pro lifers arguments for their position - rebuttal

Fetus are called "babies" in scripture:

“The babies jostled each other within her.” (Genesis 25:22)

Sorry but this is just a misleading translation - in Hebrew the word "baby" comes from the root word that means "nursing." Furthermore this verse symbolizes (or prophecizes) the future conflict between the two lines of Isaac (hebrew) and Esau (arab) resulting from the battle over Isaac's birthrights. it is not intended to be read literally.

And here - "As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.(Luke 1:41) - Again this is clearly not intended to be read literally - the "baby" (translation misleading) did not leap - it is just a honor and manner of saying that your child (Mary) will be greater than mine (Elizabeth) And that was certainly true.

However, the most quoted scripture in support of the the pro life position is Jeremiah, which refers to God knowing and honoring the fruits of his mother's womb:

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart.” (Jeremiah 1:5)

Of course this says nothing at all about when life begins or abortion - it only makes clear that God knew the future and fate of that Prophet BEFORE he even was formed in the womb - not after.

And this Psalm:

For You created my inmost being; You knit me together in my mother’s womb…Your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in Your book before one of them came to be. (Psalm 139:13,16) Again this only states that Gos knows all and creates all - it says nothing about when life begins or abortion.

Same case for these scriptures:

This is what the Lord says—He who made you, who formed you in the womb. (Isaiah 44:2)

“Did not He who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same One form us both within our mothers?” (Job 31:15)

And of course the Ten Commandments - "thous shall not murder" is the correct translation but pro- lifers say "Thou shalt not kill" = clearly wrong since killing is condoned in the bible in war, for pusnishment, in self defense etc and is NOT murder.

 

BOTTOM LINE FOR PRO LIFERS AS STATED BY THE CHURCH - READ CAREFULLY:

Full Question

My friend contends that the Bible can't be used to argue against abortion because nowhere in the Bible does it state that abortion is wrong and that life begins at conception. How do I respond?

Answer

Though we don’t find the word abortion mentioned in any biblical text, we can deduce from Scripture, not to mention natural law, reason, Church teaching, and patristic witness that abortion is intrinsically evil.

 

TRANSLATION - TRUST THE CHURCH FATHERS WHO CAN "DEDUCE" THAT ABORTION IS EVIL

Anonymous ID: 5cda69 Jan. 21, 2019, 9:17 a.m. No.4847604   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7634 >>7839 >>7851

>>4847477

well just read my posts and you can see they are sound and well reasoned and supported by law

if not you are free to critique but you do realize that shills here want to knock down anyone who questions their authority and have taken to name calling etc every time i post

 

the posts are a lot of work and must be produced in a time sensitive envorinment so yes there are typos - if that offends you then you miss the point of this board

 

carry on frens

Anonymous ID: 5cda69 Jan. 21, 2019, 9:29 a.m. No.4847749   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7915 >>8025

>>4847683

lawfag here

this shows just how far we have fallen away from the rule of law when this question is even asked let alone cannot be answered

its all politics and what they can get away with

the entire govt all 3 branches has been corrupt for a long while

now we have a the exec branch getting cleaned up

legislative and judicial too but takes time

in this case hiding her is not a sustainable strategy - it wont last too much longer

Anonymous ID: 5cda69 Jan. 21, 2019, 9:37 a.m. No.4847850   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4847701

tx for the thoughtful reply anon

i am not in any way PROMOTING abortion

but this is simply an issue between a person and God - it is NOT an issue for the state to force on people thru political means

 

as for sale of fetal tissue and the like this is a mainstream medical practice and has been for years - it is fully supported by law in every state and was expressly permitted to be decided by the states under federal law

 

that said the medical system is as corrupt than the govt so there is abuse everywhere

the answer is NOT more laws

the answer is the GA