Anonymous ID: 61f399 Jan. 21, 2019, 5:03 p.m. No.4853573   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3581

o7

Had a couple of interesting conversations recently with a friend in Yorkshire. He works all over the UK, and had some interesting perspectives on what was going on there, post "No Deal." This will take a few posts, so please be patient.

 

Part 1 of 5

 

Me:

Would may ignoring Brexit trigger Paris 2.0 in london?

 

YorkAnon:

It's impossible to predict. My main hope and aim is the UK to fall apart and be put back again as a federal republic. So I hope she messes it all up and helps fan the flames that are already smouldering

Three regions in the UK have definite rebel sentiment now: Scotland, North East England and Yorkshire. Not to mention Wales and Ireland, of course.

Separatists/regionalists are starting to gather pace. But whether it's a dream or not, I have no idea. I hope she continues with her arrogance and it all falls apart.

It is. Things can never return to how they were before.

This is who, from now on, gets my vote every time.

https://www.thenortheastparty.com/

 

Me:

So William Wallace wears a suit and wants the Midlands now?

The SE of England should just become their own country, get some northern Ireland karma.

 

YorkAnon:

Funnily enough, a Scottish client of mine last week said (only very slightly joking): "we'll gladly take North East England if we declare independence".

 

I really would like us all to dump Westmonster, abolish the monarchy and rebuild a modern nation on a par with every other modern country. The UK is disgusting.

Anonymous ID: 61f399 Jan. 21, 2019, 5:04 p.m. No.4853581   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3585

>>4853573

 

Part 2 of 5

 

YorkAnon:

My favourite paragraph from the NE Party manifesto is this:

 

"We encourage people to be ambitious for themselves for their families and communities. We refuse to accept that ‘things will always be this way’ or ‘nothing can be done.’

 

Me:

That sounds like a proper revolution there.

How is the local feel on it?

 

YorkAnon:

Mixed - everyone knows something needs to change, but there's a lot of differences in opinion

 

Me:

Yeah…hard to. I'm just trying to gauge reaction somewhere between "stiff upper lip," and "Vive la Yorkshire."

 

YorkAnon:

It's more like "burn the fuck out of the bastards"

Anonymous ID: 61f399 Jan. 21, 2019, 5:04 p.m. No.4853585   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3591

>>4853581

Part 3 of 5

 

YorkAnon:

I'm half joking with the "burn" comment. But there is an increasing almost nationalist sentiment, particularly in Northumbria and Yorkshire, that is every bit as strong as that shown by the Welsh and Scots.

 

To understand this context and the mindset of our people (as opposed to the majority of the English population), it's important to have a grasp of the history (I will go on about this for ages if given the chance, but I'll try to resist the urge smile )

 

Historically, Northumbria was an independent nation - the cradle of Western Christianity, home to a great many saints and a hugely important centre of learning and culture. This was during the so-called "Dark Ages" when the rest of Europe was supposedly festering away in ignorance. I prefer the term The Early Middle Ages. At its height, the kingdom covered all of the land that is today known as northern England, and it included a good slice of the Scottish Lowlands, all the way up to Edinburgh.

 

And then the Vikings came. The Vikings repeatedly invaded and eventually annexed the south eastern half of Northumbria, which became the Viking kingdom of Jorvik, which slowly evolved to be known as "Yorkshire". You can still hear a good number of viking words in the Yorkshire dialect, and many of its place names are very Norse/Danish.

 

The north west eventually became the Kingdoms of Strathclyde and Rheged, and diverged off on a different path.

 

The Picts invaded the north, which shrunk that frontier back to Berwick-onTweed. Northumbria then became the territory it covers today: the territory between the rivers Tees and Tweed. The vikings never conquered us, and the Normans couldn't either (which is why we don't appear in the Domesday book). The Romans likewise failed, which is why they built a massive wall to try to split us in two and stop our tribes joining up to attack them.

 

So, both Yorkshire and Northumbria diverged over all that time into two nations and then, when England swallowed us both up, into provinces that have maintained very strong senses of identity.

 

And then the Vikings came. The Vikings repeatedly invaded and eventually annexed the south eastern half of Northumbria, which became the Viking kingdom of Jorvik, which slowly evolved to be known as "Yorkshire". You can still hear a good number of viking words in the Yorkshire dialect, and many of its place names are very Norse/Danish.

 

The north west eventually became the Kingdoms of Strathclyde and Rheged, and diverged off on a different path.

 

The Picts invaded the north, which shrunk that frontier back to Berwick-onTweed. Northumbria then became the territory it covers today: the territory between the rivers Tees and Tweed. The vikings never conquered us, and the Normans couldn't either (which is why we don't appear in the Domesday book). The Romans likewise failed, which is why they built a massive wall to try to split us in two and stop our tribes joining up to attack them.

 

So, both Yorkshire and Northumbria diverged over all that time into two nations and then, when England swallowed us both up, into provinces that have maintained very strong senses of identity.

 

That sense of identity has not weakened one bit over that time.

 

Now, when a nation is doing well and its people prosperous, it's easy to govern. But when times turn harsh, that changes. That's where we are today: a significant population that has been neglected, deliberately starved of income (because that's how London functions - me, me, me, me, me) and left to rot.

 

From that historical context, you can see that there's very little we have in common with "The English" - or the people that everyone believes the English to be. It's a source of massive frustration to me that people from overseas think that we are the same as the arrogant, imperialist buffoons that go around being superior & haughty to everyone who isn't them or theirs. I utterly detest being lumped in with people like that.

Anonymous ID: 61f399 Jan. 21, 2019, 5:05 p.m. No.4853591   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3599

>>4853585

Part 4 of 5

 

YorkAnon:

I also forgot to mention that we have our own patron saint: St Cuthbert.

 

I also forgot to mention that I no longer think of myself as English: I have one nationality and that's Northumbrian. Sadly, like the Basques, Kurds and Catalans, my passport states that I belong to another nation than the one I claim. I'm in the minority with my hardline divegence from the English nationality that fate and geography has forced upon me. But I'm part of a significant minority, one that is growing as people get more and more angry about being ruled by a spiteful, parasitical, racist, greedy city state that is slowing and deliberately choking us to death.

 

Their tactic at the moment is to carve us up based on cities etc. It's a deliberate ploy. Anyway, here is the discussion. It was held between a Scottish National Party politican and the London-based party politicians from North East England/Scotland. It's worthy of a read just to see the mutual warmth between us and the Scots, but it's also worth a read to show the sinister underbelly of the status quo.

 

One of the reasons the London-based parties don't want Scotland to become independent (or to get a better deal if Scotland stays in the UK) is they know the north of England (most notably the North East) would push for better treatment and very possibly, in time, go along the same route.

 

There's an interesting quote here from a Tory saying exactly that:

 

"The push towards regionalisation in England would start again—it would start in the north—and it is not something that I want to see…Scotland voting no, if handled in the wrong way, could lead to further regionalisation, damage and break-up in the United Kingdom. I have no objection to powers being given to regions, but I do not want wholesale transfers away from our existing united model, which I support."

 

James Wharton, Tory MP for Stockton South

 

In other words, this Tory wants to maintain the unequal treatment of the provinces that don't immediately surround Westmonster.

 

Source: https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmhansrd/cm140304/halltext/140304h0001.htm?fbclid=IwAR0W15Kwo9E80CgNeu3aDL3LDcJ2qQvUN182eMYXMBoqVxUSJ2cRi0iXb_A

Anonymous ID: 61f399 Jan. 21, 2019, 5:05 p.m. No.4853599   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>4853591

Part 5 of 5

 

YorkAnon:

It's a long tiresome read - I'm just citing my sources.

 

But the first few paragraphs show something of that strong affinity we and the Scots share, which is staggeringly different than the mutual hostility between the Scots and the rest of the English. beyond that, it's a pretty dull article

 

In conclusion:

England has a lot more issues at work than just Brexit. From my talks with YorkAnon, who I've known for years, the Brexit issue is really no different than the gas tax in France that lead to le gilets jaunes. It's the match that will light off many decades of fuel built by the deep state. I'll keep you posted as I get more developments.