It occurred to me recently (as a software engineer) that the bible is the complicated instruction manual, and Jesus is the concrete example that makes the penny drop.
I still don't understand why he had to die though.
Thx - I'll have a look.
I've been agnostic up to now but what I've learned here about the depth of depravity that exists makes me think that we need religion to remain sane.
it's afternoon in europe genius.
That's what I would have said a year ago.
I assumed everyone else was more or less the same as me, but instead we have people torturing and raping children.
Yeah - I was thinking more low-key christianity.
Islam seems more like a political movement.
I'm no longer sure that morality is hard-coded.
I suspect it's a bit more than 25 years, but I take your point.
I am/was a hardcore Richard Dawkins fan, but he doesn't address the morality issue much. I'm sure he'd take rational non-religious line though.
How much do I know? - Not much.
It has been used by some for political purposes recently though.
Yeah evil on this scale can really cause you to re-evaluate everything.
If it's not hard-coded where does it come from?
Agreed, but I don't want it to encroach any more in the west.
Maybe I'm missing something, but this guy seems to be coming from the jewish angle. I thought jews didn't believe that Jesus was the messiah.
He died to redeem mankind - I can't make any sense of that. Not your fault - I've never heard a good explanation of the idea.
http://geacron.com/home-en/
This shows int'l border movements over time.
It's interesting to think about what every change would have entailed - think death and destruction.
Right now I'm preoccupied with morality and how we came to the rape/torture/murder of children.
By geographic coincidence SA has become hugely wealthy from oil but their culture is in some ways degenerate. Maybe sometimes there is justification in taking it.
I'm not American for what it's worth - I'm near the center of the map.
I've despised US over the last 40ish years for what they've done, but Trump may be a new hope. US was controlled by the IC, who were controlled by big money.
that's a bot - just ignore or add a global filter.
Yeah I've been around for a while and I get that.
What I don't get is the degeneracy required to override one of our most basic instincts - to protect children (and women).
My original point was 'do we need religion (christianity)' to get back to decency?
I suppose what you're describing here is a 2000 year-old cultural meme (in the Dawkins sense).
Hmmm. I underestimated you.
Interesting re Shining.
I've long thought that psychopathy is the problem. Is it OK to test everyone early and take steps if they test positive?
That's the culture here. Hope you found help elsewhere anon.