Alright. I was going to leave this topic be.., but. . .

>>5035174 (lb)

I've been bothered by Q's use of the Bible since the very start of this. I've been trying to speak my mind, but I have too much to say on this subject. I don't care who said what when. At the end of the day, we are all humans, and thus flawed. I've already addressed in the last thread how "Moses" was the planet Mars. Therefore whatever 'laws' were chiseled in stone, after Mars passed the Charge from Venus down to Earth, do NOT have 'divine authority' over mankind. How many children were beaten or abused by their parents "because '…' said…"? How about the rule that says it's okay to beat your wife with a stick no bigger than the width of your thumb? Gee.., I wonder if it was a man who wrote that? Right at the beginning, "It was the woman's fault!!, and the DEVIL!!" … or was that Saturn, also known as Sin. These are the most intimate of divisions we can have. They destroy families. Not to mention the people who wrote this down, where probably deprived of the oxygen required for normal brain function.

https://www.varchive.org/itb/hydrox.htm

Something interesting popped up when I was looking to see what the 'legal' definition of "God" was. Someone falsely entered our plea for us, stating that everyone is presumed to believe in this "Supreme Being", and left us with the burden of proving otherwise. Heck, at one point in time it was 'illegal' to say otherwise. Here's the problem. "God" is NOT a 'being'. I've been saying this for most of 2018, and shared quite a bit of evidence in the last thread. "God" was a reference to the Electromagnetic Space Force, that powers "Life" along with everything else in the Universe. What raised mountains, carved valleys, etc.? See catastrophic geology in an Electric Universe. It wasn't a reference to any one celestial body, since "God" was present "In the beginning" along with everyone of those cataclysms. The celestial bodies were the 'false idols', remember? And so is the [straw man] that somebody forced us into believing in. This was a bogus deal and it seems like they knew it because they left US with the burden of proving otherwise.

Many of the brilliant minds who made advances in the field of electricity, where Christian, or at least believed in "God". Faraday. Maxwell. Tesla. Incredibly brilliant men, yet not one of the names gets mentioned in a text book, unless you're going to school to be an electrical engineer. Heck, most people think that all this technology came from a crashed 'alien' UFO. Our lives are so dependent on electricity now-a-days it's disgusting. Yet, we know so little about it. Why is that? I don't even think this was new during the 19th century. When I look at the designs and ruins of some of the older churches, they appear to have elements that show at least some basic knowledge of electricity. Then when you think about the conquests of the East Indies Corporations during the 1600-1800s, they could have destroyed the old, enslaved the people, and forced us into making advancements for them to profit off, and while keeping the technology for themselves. It's not just the lack of education about electricity, but the entire Electromagnetic Force has been suppressed, if not completely removed, from several fields of study. Biology, chemistry, astronomy, geology, paleontology, etc. The 'education' that is being taught to our children is leaving them completely clueless about the World they live in, the Universe that surrounds us, even the very essence of who they are. So, why aren't the children being provided with a REAL education? Can't hide behind 'the law', cause by that definition, we can't teach about the [straw man]. Is it too dangerous? People are using this 'technology' to brainwash people before they can even speak, so. . . what gives???

I'm pretty certain this system was designed to enslave Christians, in particular, along with the very best of people, so the most vile, greedy and corrupt individuals can prosper off our blood, sweat & tears for centuries, if not longer. "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me …?". So, anyone who knows about the [straw man] clause, or anyone who calls "God" by a different name, or even an atheist, can lie through their teeth to save their own ass. Meanwhile, the decent human being is tricked into telling the truth out of fear of eternal damnation. It's no wonder why these elites "in the know" do the most unholy things, we can't even imagine, to the most innocent of people. Obviously, THEY aren't worried about the consequences. I'm not saying that people should stop being 'Good', but the way things are presented, these religions look like they are designed to enslave, just like 'the law'. Pay your taxes and look the other way so I can slap you again. Gee.., I wonder how that part found it's way into the Bible, instead of all those other teachings that never made it in.

Alright. I was meditating, trying to cool off about this one…

>>5261676

I happened to come across this Manly Hall video. He talks about our own personal magnetic fields, that we all have. Not just people, but literally EVERYTHING. I was learning about Qigong a few years back, which has been teaching this for generations. Anyways, it's been known for almost 200 years that electricity and magnetism are related to one another. If you study human anatomy, you'll find a number of things in our body have electrical properties, and so it shouldn't really come as a surprise to find out that, yes indeed, we do have these magnetic fields. To me the video, wasn't anything special, but I was intrigued to hear this from an old recording. I know I've heard the name Manly P. Hall before in my research, but I never really knew much about him. So, I decided to look into him.

Alright, folks. He's a Mason. Not that big a deal to me. Hopefully, you all can get past that, too. Anyway, I'm probably going to have to look into more of his work, but right away, one in particular caught my eye: "The Secret Destiny of America"!! Um.., Read it. It's probably one of the more interesting looks I've had into the history of this Country, and A LOT more. My full analysis on this piece would probably be longer than the work itself. I wanted to share this, because it really gave me perspective on where Q's probably coming from. . .

https://ia600308.us.archive.org/26/items/SecretDestinyOfAmerica/The%20Secret%20Destiny%20of%20America%20%281944%2C%20by%20Manly%20P.%20Hall%29.pdf

I don't even know where to start ;) Order of the Quest!? Okay. So, this probably has a lot to do with the whole "Good vs. evil" thing. These guys might know much more than they can say, but they weren't hiding the information to use it against people. They were hiding the information so the ignorant masses didn't persecute them… At least that's how I see it. They may have even lost some of their own information thanks to something of this nature. It sounds like these guys have been trying to secretly help us help ourselves. Oh My Gosh! Run for your lives!!!

Okay. So, I do apologize to Q for coming off a bit harsh. I really don't know any type of thing that any of the insiders know, but there it does appear that there is quite a bit of Energy tied into this "Greater Good". Which is also why I wanted to share the video, so the rest of (you)s get an idea about a more scientific approach in regards to the human "Soul" or "Spirit". There does appear to be quite a bit of Truth in that kind of thing. One of the more interesting parts in "The Secret Destiny of America" was the prophetic dreams where Presidents & Generals would be visited by previous Figures of such prestigious positions. For all we know, POTUS might have Ronald Reagan, and others, giving him advice through this whole thing. Reagan was also said to have read and adopted ideas from this very work of Hall's. So.., I'll try to be moar understanding going forward, Q. I didn't think about all this stuff. I'm sorry, bud.

I'll have to do further posts to give more detail to other things related to this piece about the Secret Destiny of America. Seeing how Q keeps mentioning that we are "watching a movie", along with all these references to foreshadowing, whether by channeling or by design, that certainly stands out. The part about Columbus being a "Greek" King was certainly interesting, since I've come across a number of things in North America that hint at a "Greek" presence. I've been reading up on the figure King Solomon, who does seem to remind me a bit of the Solon character also mentioned in this work. My mind is wandering into some REALLY bizarre places, right now. I'm not quite sure who has had access to what, or for how long, whether or not any of these people actually know what happened, or if they're still picking up pieces along with us.

Honestly, I'm still kind of in a daze after reading this. At the very least, it adds a bit of perspective that I had not previously considered. There's still quite a lengthy debate I could have in regards to the meaning of the word "…", but I can leave that be for now so I can help fight for this "Greater Good" that everyone keeps talking about. . . Peace & Love Everyone ;)

I'm still looking into anything I can possibly find about planetary chaos…

>>5052018 (lb)

I came across another possible origin for a certain symbol while I was watching a video about plasma physics. I'm familiar with double layers, but this thought never had occurred to me prior to this moment in time. I think part of the revelation came due to the shadows from the instruments, which made me think of something along the lines of the polar configuration. Here's the video ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88g_2tIHN-0

Something like this may have been visible in the sky at some point in time. I have at least 3 scenarios in my head, but I'll probably need to look for some more clues before I take a firm stance. The first few scenarios would be while we were still orbiting Saturn; either shortly after the Deluge or as we were approaching Jupiter during the birth of Venus. The second scenario, which I will have to reread these parts of the Bible with this in mind, the larger body may have Jupiter. This transition period is still pretty fuzzy for me, which is why I started looking into this mess for myself in the first place. I had yet to find all the pieces in place. We may have been temporarily captured by Jupiter, prior to our arrival at the sun, which is the technically the third scenario. The sun is not a flaming ball of gas, and Saffire's main purpose was to model the electric sun, so.., it's possible. I made the graphic based on scenario one, prior to the birth of Venus. In all cases, Venus appears to be significant to the symbol. I'm trying to keep an open mind about everything, especially since no one seems to have "all the answers"…

I did look to see if the Thunderbolts folks had anything to say about this particular symbol. While I didn't find any direct references after a few quick searches, it is possible that they may have mentioned something like this in any one of their many videos or articles. I did happen to stumble across this absolute gem of a thread while I was searching. I don't really agree with everything this person has to say, but it would be a crime not to share this. It's a masterpiece of an everlasting conspiracy theory ramble!

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3947&start=600

I was quite surprised how little this person referenced the celestial events in regards to some of the story lines considering it was on the Thunderbolt's Forum, but I still found it both entertaining and informative. Personally, I think the words are more significant than the gematria. At this point, there is no way anyone could convince me that we didn't have multiple global catastrophes involving other planets. Here's another link to some more unpublished work by Velikovsky. A little bit more lengthy than the link I shared last thread.

https://www.varchive.org/ce/index.htm

One of the planets I have yet to touch on is Mercury. Mercury is the closest planet to Earth for the longest period of time. Add to that a rather elliptical orbit, along with a period of disruption and I can't help but wonder if we shook hands once or twice in the past. The main reason why I brought up the current situation with Mercury is that the planet actually experiences something similar to one of the events we hear about in the Bible, where the sun ceases it's motion in the heavens. This happens on the regular for Mercury, and Earth may have experienced something of the sort during the time it was settling into our current orbit. It's possible that Earth had an encounter with Mercury during this more recent time, but according to legend it appears that our first encounter with Mercury (Thoth, Hermes, Nebo, etc.) happened prior to the 'Exodus'. There is some info on Mercury in the above link from Velikovsky and below is the section on Mercury which came from the link I posted last bread. Keep in mind that Velikovsky was not aware of the polar configuration and though he hinted about Saturn being responsible for the Deluge, he didn't consider Earth to be a satellite of said gas giant. Still, his notes are priceless!!

https://www.varchive.org/itb/merkur.htm

It sounds like Mercury may have been responsible for the confusion of languages, along with several of the new languages that arose. Right now, I have a general idea of the sequence of events, but a few things are still fuzzy. I don't think that's all Mercury's fault. I've already noted that the character known as 'Moses' probably refers to the planet, Mars. I've always been skeptical of the Biblical character of 'David'. I get the feeling he is, at the very least, a reference to the planet, Venus. Which is weird because Solomon is said to be the son of David, right? Well, it may not be so unusual when you consider how many royal figures claim themselves to be descendants of the divine. The more you know…

General update and edits.

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>>5261676

> Saturn, also known as Sin

Totally made a mistake on this. 'Sin' was the moon. I'm not trying to mold any of my theories around the Bible, but Q keeps recommending you read the Book, so the best I can try to do is on the fly interpretations. I apologize for any of my mix ups. I'm still a little confused due to the way things are presented.

Right now I think that the encounter with the moon may have taken place in the generation of Enoch, but I could totally be wrong about that. It sounds like that generation had foreknowledge about the Moon, the Flood and cosmic catastrophes so they built several shelters all over the world, carved into stone. I know the Bible starts out with the first seven days, but I think that's just another one of those reoccurring symbols. It could be a reference to the planets. Who knows? I'm pretty sure the timeline jumps around a bit. Velikovsky makes note that it appears like the events taking place during Genesis are acting out the "7 Days" and he seems a bit confused about how each "Day" is counted. One thing that I do find interesting is the connection between Neptune/Poseidon statues and government buildings. If there was an initial splitting of the landmass (even if we didn't arc every time around, we would likely have experienced some incredibly earthquakes and insane storms at the very least) it may have been completely unexpected. So, in the wake of the first disaster, humans may have needed to form organized, structured systems, like the gubbment, to not only calm the hysteria but also figure out WTF just habbened and plan ahead for potential future disasters. So, gradually they progressed, carved incredible structures in preparation and tried to preserve as much knowledge for future generations, etc.

So, those two perhaps events may have each been considered to be a "Day". Saturn novas and we get flooded, chalk that up as a "Day". The very first "Day" may have even been Proto-Earth, before Pangaea even was around. It may have taken several nova flares from Saturn before the landmass eventually rose from the primordial muck. That whole process could be labelled as one "Day", or maybe it was "Day One"!? I wasn't around so I really don't know. I'm just kind of speculating on this. There's some interesting links to the star Sirius that I haven't really covered here.

It is possible that dwarf star, Saturn was orbiting the Binary star Sirius, perhaps in a similar fashion as Proxima Centauri orbits the binary pair of Alpha Centauri (that's the nearest star. About 4 light years away). Sirius isn't that far away either at about 8 light years. If you want an idea of how far a star can travel, Scholz's star was said to pass relatively close to the solar system about 70,000 years ago. However, I'm not so sure how they get such an accurate date on that, considering their estimated distance of the star 17-23 light years away. In another case, Barnard's star is currently some 6+lya, but in roughly 8,000 years it will be about 3 light years closer. So, traveling at a similar rate of speed, say 1 light year per 3,000 years, it would only have taken 24,000 years to travel the current distance to Sirius. Our solar system is currently moving away from Sirius, so far as I know. I have a few theories, maybe I'll get into in other post. It shows up in the symbols and legends. Masons seem to like this star.

I think before I go out on that limb, I'm going to have to cover King Solomon. It does appear that there is definitely some truth to the earlier stories of the Bible, but if the people from the earlier times were actual people, then their lives got balled up in the legends and packaged as religion for the masses. Meanwhile the elites knew the true meaning, which later led to all sorts of Biblical drama. Solomon gets credit for building the temple(s). Velikovsky notes Solomon as the builder of Baalbek, which is a temple to Jupiter. I would advise people to really take notes on the various names that are associated with Jupiter. Here's one of many ;)

>according to the Talmud, Gad was the name of the planet Jupiter

https://www.varchive.org/ce/baalbek/baalbek.htm

Oh.., there's so much more. . . One of these days I'll make it into the present era. [soon]

I'm going to try to do a quick post on Solomon, so I don't put it off any longer. I want to get this out of the way, so I can talk about the modern catastrophes and why that might be relevant to the Denver Airport or the elite bunkers. . .

>>5535041

Last month, I kept randomly bumping into King Solomon. Velikovsky spends a lot of time during 'Ages in Chaos' going into great detail about Solomon, noting that the Queen of Sheba is likely Hatshepsut (conventional dating is wrong). The Temple of Solomon is said to have been destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar, which does make me wonder if there's another possible encounter with the planet Mercury. As for Baalbek, this was definitely a temple to 'Gad', Jupiter. All good clues.

https://youtu.be/KmRBKf18Bac

One of the more intriguing accounts in the tales about Solomon is the 'Shamir'. Some accounts say it's green rock/mineral, others refer to it as something 'life-like'. Velikovsky noted this was possibly referring to a radioactive substance, similar to Radium.

https://www.varchive.org/ce/shamir/shamir.html

Given the accounts, I do agree with this take but I'm inclined to take this idea a step further. I don't think this was a crude use of a radioactive substance, but rather an advanced technological application to said substance. One thing I should also point out, many of these ancient temples were restored several times. Solomon lived hundreds of years after the 'Exodus', and rumor has it the Shamir was known about in Moses' time. Usually the further back in time, the more advanced the culture was. The most advanced civilizations weren't necessarily 'building', but rather carving their structures out of stone. It is possible Solomon was using not only the foundation of an ancient temple, but also the technology of the civilization who built the original.

I won't be able to discuss everything about the 'worm' here. There is some REALLY bizarre things I've encountered going down the 'worm' hole. Sticking with the most practical approach, I propose that some of these more 'life-like' properties may have been referring to a practical application of the Electromagnetic Force. A 'worm' is a lot like a 'snake'. That seems to be a reoccurring theme in creation mythology for a reason. Electricity shaped the lands ;)

https://youtu.be/4eq0fVA99V0?t=1776

In case if anyone is wondering (: cuz I know I wuz ;) electricity can melt rock!!

https://youtu.be/p_uBSoa6r_A

This is a more extreme setup right here, but there could be something to the accounts of softening of stone. In a more familiar scenario, seeing that the Egyptians have carvings that look like light bulbs with wires, not to mention the clay batteries that archeologists find, it is possible to consider that workers may have been using various types of 'power' tools. Some theories even suggest that sound was used to cut the stone. Conventional definition states that 'sound' is a mechanical force, however I think they have that terribly wrong. Sound exhibits the characteristics of an Electromagnetic 'phenomena'. If this sounds outrageous, inside every speaker there's a magnet connected to a wire.

Perfect time to bring up the 'djinn'! Did Solomon really have an army of demons doing his bidding? Or is it possible that this, too, may refer to a practical application of the Electromagnetic Force? More specifically magnetic levitation!! Anyone ever hear the tales of the wizard, Merlin, who levitated the blocks to build the castle? Well, there may be some reality behind such outrageous accounts like these. In more recent times, a frail 100 pound man named Ed Leedskalnin built the Coral Castle, using the 'secrets of the pyramids'. Some of the accounts said Ed was able to manuver these blocks, the largest of which is some 30 tons, almost effortlessly. If you ask him what his secret was…

http://www.shamanicengineering.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Magnetic-Current-Ed-Leedskalnin.pdf

I may have to dive deeper into Solomon on another post. I just wanted to show how there was most likely technology being used back the day. The elites weren't just using this technology to make temples. I'm pretty sure they were using this tech to make themselves appear more powerful, even terrifying to us common folk and thus 'worthy' to rule…

A few more mental edits and updates to my general thoughts:

>>5535041

>>5586755

I can't stress enough the importance of keeping an open mind and questioning things thuroughly. Many things have been tampered with over time and the reasons might be more complex than a simple "[____] did it…".

I briefly touched on how Solomon may have claimed to be a descendant of a divine figure. Also, I noted that he lived centuries after 'Moses', whom I thought was a clear reference to the planet Mars. I just happened to watch this video, below, that point out some skepticism about the 'discovery' of King Tut's tomb. In it, there was a claim about Thutmose being Moses. Just doing a quick search on "Thutmose is Moses", I can see that this isn't anything new. But if Solomon lived centuries after Moses, and Thutmose was married to Hatsheput, whom is also the Queen of Sheba, who visited Solomon… This is a common theme when one tries to make sense of 'history'. In all honesty, there may have been real life figures that lived alongside these [events], that later fused into myths and even religions. From a planetary perspective, Moses died on Mt. Nebo, where as Solomon's temple gets destroyed by Nebo-[cain]-ezzar. Nebo is Mercury. They could be 2 separate events, or one in the same. For all I know, someone may have created the artificial gap of several centuries to try to hide an affair.

https://youtu.be/I3mR9Gu93-M

Dates are really messed up. Many of Velikovsky's references in "Ages in Chaos" came from a contemporary archeologist, named Claude Shaeffer. During his excavations, Schaeffer found several layers of civilizations separated by several meters of various materials. This is pretty much the essence of catastrophic geology, which goes back at the very least to Cuvier. Here's an article by Peter Mungo Jupp, who was also responsible for some of those videos which I shared in my last post..

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2016/01/20/cuvier-and-schaeffers-catastrophism-the-opening-of-the-key-to-the-electric-universe/

There are a number of things that we've been told to believe as if it were 'fact', simply because "science says…". Take the [Ice Age] for example. 12,000 years ago.., the ice age ended then civilization just sprung up like spring flowers. Any one willing to question that? Or is that too ridiculous because "we ALL know…"? One of the reasons why we have an ice age in the 'official' timeline is because they needed a way to explain the actual landscape of the Earth, that could NOT be a catastrophe. So, they made up all these wild ideas about glaciers all around the globe, and dramatic climate change, etc., never really pinpointing the actual cause or anything else. The problem is, when you look at the features in places like Africa that they claim are from glaciers, then compare that to the landscape of North America, which supposedly just thawed out after [who knows how long?], then compare that to what the land looks like where the REAL glaciers are.., NONE OF THEM LOOK ALIKE!!! But they are HUGE 'erratic boulders' EVERYWHERE, so the had to say glaciers did it, to oppose the concepts of Biblical catastrophes, such as the Flood. So then they needed to insert MILLIOS of years for this all to take place, 4 glacial periods, etc.., and we KNOW this cuz? Data? [ICE CORES]!? We don't know as much as we think we know. But that also explains A LOT!!

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2013/03/21/antarctica/

Since I didn't really post much about [symbols], I'll end with something intriguing about the days of the week. It appears that Monday thru Friday are in the order each body makes it's first appearance. So, Monday starts off with the Moon. This leads into the Flood and the figure known as Typhon, which I think was early stages of the polar configuration composed of Saturn and Mars, who reps Tuesday. Shortly after, we get our confusion of languages, caused by Mercury, conveniently placed on Wednesday. Mercury is the messenger for Zues, Jupiter is Thursday. This actually may be why Thanksgiving & Passover falls on Thursday, because Zues freed us from the mean old Typhon. How? Well, Jupiter ejected Venus (:hooray for Friday!!) into the polar configuration and the rest is history. As for the weekend, there is the rather obvious Saturn's Day into Sun Day, along with the subtle reference about starting 'a new'.., week.