Anonymous ID: abcfef Pharisees Plot to Kill Jesus Feb. 9, 2019, 11:43 a.m. No.5093685   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3916

The New Testament repeats its charge of Jewish guilt in about 40 different passages. Nothing could be clearer than that long before the crucifixion the pharisaic leaders were wanting to kill Jesus and maneuvering toward that end. Fairly soon in Jesus ministry we are told the Pharisees “planned together to kill Him” (John 11:47-53, John 18:14). Their goal was to have Him “delivered to the chief priest and condemned to death” (Mark 10:33, Matt. 20:18-19, Luke 18:31-33). “And they plotted together to seize Jesus by stealth and to kill him” (Matt. 26:4, Luke 22:2, John 7:1).

 

This was “to obtain false testimony against Jesus in order that they might put him to death” (Matt. 26:59). Because their intention was obvious, Jesus asked them, “Why do you seek to kill me?” (John 7:19). It was obvious also to the people, who asked, “Is not this the man they are seeking to kill?” (John 7:25). Accordingly, the “chief priests and elders took counsel against Jesus to put him to death” and “delivered him to Pilate” (Matt. 27:1-2, Mark 15:1, Luke 23:1).

 

At this point we encounter first mention of a Roman in this conspiracy. Yet Pilate confirms that the animus and energy toward Christ’s murder is coming entirely from Jewish leaders. “Pilate knew that because of envy they had delivered him up” (Matt. 27:18, Mark 15:10). “The chief priests and scribes were seeking how they might put him to death” (Matt. 26:15, Mark 14:10-11, Luke 22:2-6) and were “seeking to destroy him” (Mark 11:18, Luke 19:47).

 

As a result, Pilate, himself a manipulator, asked them, “What are you willing to give to me to deliver him up to you?” The “chief priests and elders persuaded the multitudes to ask for Barabbas and put Jesus to death” (Matt. 27:20, Mark 15:11, Luke 23:18, John 18:40). “…And they shouted, ‘crucify him!’ and ‘he ought to die’” (Matt. 27:22-23, Mark 15:13-14, Luke 23:21-23, John 19:6-7). Pilate, it says, “delivered Jesus to their will” (Matt. 27:26, Mark 15:15, Luke 23:24-25).

 

After Pilate agreed to the demand of the leaders and people that Christ be killed, the Jews acknowledged their responsibility. “His blood be upon us and upon our children” (Matt. 27:25). Jesus confirmed to Pilate that the sin of the Jewish leaders was greater than that of Pilate in buckling to Jewish pressure. Jesus said, “For this reason he who delivered me up to you has the greater sin” (John19:11). Jesus was affirming “how the chief priests and rulers delivered him up to the sentence of death and crucified Him” (Luke 24:20).

 

This brings us to testimony by the apostles in the Book of Acts that the Jews killed Christ. In Peter’s speech to the Jewish multitude at Pentecost, he lays blame upon them for the death of Jesus whom “ye have taken and by wicked hands have crucified and slain” (Acts 2:23). Jesus, “whom ye have crucified” (Acts 2:36). Again, in Acts 3:14-15 he tells the Jews, “but ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you and killed the Prince of Life.” Peter tells the high priest and rulers that they are guilty for the spilling of the blood “of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified” (Acts 4:40).

 

Later, he again tells the Pharisees, “The God of our fathers raised up Jesus whom ye slew and hanged on a tree” (Acts 5:30). Just before being stoned to death by the Jews, Stephen told them they have been Christ’s “betrayers and murderers” (Acts 7:52). A converted Jew, Paul, testified of his pharisaic brethren that, “though they found no cause of death in him yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain” (Acts 13:28) and that the Jews “have both killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets” (1 Thess. 2:14-16).

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 11, 2019, 2:40 p.m. No.5127391   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7420

>>5120895

The sabbath is the 7th day. PERIOD. It never changed because Jesus died one day.

 

Too bad Christians do not keep the 4th commandment. And of course - muh jews - turning a day of freedom from Torah into a day of Talmudic restraint and nonsense and double standards employing shabbos goys? Really?

 

(sick f*cks)

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 11, 2019, 2:43 p.m. No.5127441   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7483

>>5124156

Another misinformed, brainwashed Christian that does not know the difference in a Jew and an Israelite.

 

God loved Israel. Jesus hated the Jews. Matthew 23. Mark 7.

 

The 2 are not the same thing.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 11, 2019, 2:45 p.m. No.5127471   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7503 >>7624

>>5127420

I have. And to hear that argument is a DEFEATIST argument that goes like this, "We must simply declare ourselves sinners and throw ourselves at the feet of Jesus". Taught weekly to allow you to sin with impunity?

 

You need to learn the Law and keep it. Not JEWISH LAW as Paul said, but the Law of God. They were/are for all people not just Israel. Did you know this? Let me share with you…

 

There were rules for gentiles in order to remain in Israel. Such as…

 

Deu 31:12 Everyone must come–men, women, children, and even the gentiles who live in your towns. And each new generation will listen and learn to worship the LORD their God with fear and trembling and to do exactly what is said in God's Law.

 

Lev 16:29 On the tenth day of the seventh month of each year, you must go without eating to show sorrow for your sins, and no one, including gentiles who live among you, is allowed to work.

 

Lev 17:10 I will turn against any of my people who eat blood. This also includes any gentiles living among you.

 

Lev 20:2 to say to the community of Israel: Death by stoning is the penalty for any citizens or gentiles in the country who sacrifice their children to the god Molech.

 

Lev 24:22 I am the LORD your God, and I demand equal justice both for you Israelites and for those gentiles who live among you.

 

Lev 24:22 I am the LORD your God, and I demand equal justice both for you Israelites and for those gentiles who live among you.

 

Num 9:14 Anyone, including gentiles who live among you, can celebrate Passover, if they follow all the regulations.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 11, 2019, 2:49 p.m. No.5127578   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7624 >>7649 >>7739

>>5127503

Not what I said, but first about 225 are now moot due to Jesus death. And I follow the Holy Days, the food laws, the sex laws, the poor and unfortunate laws. And more. I have studied them so I do not have to make some Jesus justification that all I have to do is worship him and my sins are okay - NOT! Christaniaty is faith without works and James says that is DEAD.

 

If you want to know more about the Laws ask me. I can lead you in the right direction…

 

I. GOD 238

II. The Law 238

III. Signs and Symbols 238

IV. Prayer and Blessing 239

V. Love and Brotherhood 239

VI. The Poor and Unfortunate 240

VII. Treatment of the Gentiles 240

VIII. Marriage, Divorce and Family 241

IX. Forbidden Sexual Relations 242

X. Times and Seasons 243

XI. Dietary Laws 246

XII. Business Practices 247

XIII. Employees, Servants and Slaves 248

XIV. Vows, Oaths and Swearing 249

XV. The Sabbatical and Jubilee Years 250

XVI. The Court and Judicial Procedure 250

XVII. Injuries and Damages 253

XVIII. Property and Property Rights 253

IXX. Criminal Laws 254

XX. Punishment and Restitution 254

XXI. Prophecy 256

XXII. Idolatry, Idolaters and Idolatrous Practices 256

XXIII. Agriculture and Animal Husbandry 258

XXIV. Clothing 259

XXV. The Firstborn 259

XXVI. High Priest, Priests and Levites 259

XXVII. Tithes, Taxes and T’rumah [Hebrew Offerings] 260

XXVIII. The Temple, the Sanctuary and Sacred Objects 262

IXXX. Sacrifices and Offerings 263

The firstborn 263

The Passover 263

Sacrifices and the Sanctuary 264

Levitical Offerings 264

Blemishes, Imperfections, and Cleanliness 265

Timing 265

Vows: Payments and Exchanges 266

Scheduled Sacrifices 266

Location 267

Parsimonious practicality 267

XXX. Ritual Purity and Impurity 268

XXXI. Lepers and Leprosy 268

XXXII. The King 268

XXXIII. Nazarites 269

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 11, 2019, 2:54 p.m. No.5127680   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7758 >>7773

>>5127624

Listen to what he said. He said, "You have heard it SAID". Who says things like this? The oral law people. Whatch he says this many times. When he says "For it was written" then you need to pay attention.

 

And thinking something is not a sin. It is acting on these thoughts that is a sin. as he says in Mark 7 it is what comes out of you that is a sin.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 11, 2019, 2:56 p.m. No.5127732   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>5127649

No it is not lust or adultery. To look at a woman with sexual intent is called NORMAL. The definition of lust and adultery is this…

 

Lust

LUST, n.

  1. Longing desire; eagerness to possess or enjoy; as the lust of gain.

My lust shall be satisfied upon them. Exo 15.

  1. Concupiscence; carnal appetite; unlawful desire of carnal pleasure. Rom 1. 2 Pet 2.

 

UNLAWFUL DESIRE. And if you read the Law in Leviticus 18 you know the LAW of lust.

 

You do not know the law. Everything comes back to the law not your Christian opinion.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 11, 2019, 2:58 p.m. No.5127776   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7792

>>5127739

tithing was only for the Levite priesthood. No tithing is ever required to a preacher or priest.

 

You really do not know what you are posting, but seem to have religious dogma down good.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 11, 2019, 2:59 p.m. No.5127812   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7833

>>5127773

Again you do not read very closely. "You have heard it said" Is not the same weight as "As it was written" and you just proved my point. The tablets were WRITTEN by God in stone.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 11, 2019, 3:44 p.m. No.5128596   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8613 >>8638 >>1004

I WILL ANSWER AND REBUTE ALL YOUR POSTS LATER TONIGHT.

 

And after I do I hope you have a paradigm shift and come out of your religion into the written word of God. You are following Christian dogma which is bible lite.

 

I will answer all your and ask you to put your questions into 1 post from here on out. Quit being a narcissist too. We see you post.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Answering "muh troll" Feb. 11, 2019, 8:37 p.m. No.5135148   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2050

>>5128060

>>5127924

>>5127874

>>5127773

 

Part I

 

(This is long and complicated. I hope you study it)…

 

𝟏 𝐎𝐫𝐚𝐥 𝐨𝐫 𝐰𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐧

 

First I would ask you to read the top opening post here of this board - the one with the winged archangel Michael. This person has identified the issue. This person is explaining to you that the Pharisees were practicing what Jesus said were “the traditions of the elders”. We also know it as the oral law. The problem is NOWHERE in the OT does it ever say God gave Israel an oral law. What God gave Israel was WRITTEN. Jesus points to this when he uses the phrases “as it was written” and “as it was said”. “As it was said” refers to the oral practices of the Pharisees, now written down as the Talmudic Law. For example Jesus said…

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.'

 

Where in the Torah did it ever say this? Nowhere. Who said it? The Pharisees. But then Jesus will say…

Luk_10:26 Jesus answered him, "What is written in Moses' Teachings? What do you read there?"

 

and here…

Luk_2:23 They did exactly what was written in the Lord's Teachings: "Every firstborn boy is to be set apart as holy to the Lord."

 

We must follow what was written. Jesus calls out those that use oral law. “You have heard it said” refers to the Rabbis doctrines and Jesus points this out to the people many times. What is so bad about what the Rabbis have added to the overall scope of the Law? When we add to God’s Word with oral law we violate the Torah Law here…

 

Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

 

The Jews have added to the commandments by creating their own ones. The following Jewish rituals are NOT commanded by God:

 

Rosh Hoshannah, Yom Kippur, a Seder, Bar Motzvah, lighting candles on the Sabbath, eating Kosher, and many more. All of these events are rituals and traditions of the elders which forms the foundation of modern day Judaism and are not of the scriptures no matter which sect you are a part of. And in fact they moot or misdirect the underlying meaning of God wants us to do on those days. And they also point us away from God’s intentions for us for those days. The Jews are so far now from God’s intentions it is very unfortunate.

 

𝟐 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐍𝐓 𝐭𝐚𝐥𝐤𝐬 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐋𝐚𝐰

 

Now we come to the NT and the lies that are taught in Christian churches due to the preachers not understanding what Paul is saying in his writings. This is because they do not understand Judaism. The written law and oral law are diametrically opposed. The Talmud is NOT an “explanation” of the Torah as some say. It is a way to moot the Torah by men’s reasoning. Who did these men think they were anyway?

 

Paul being a Phariseeical Jew was tapped by Jesus and he showed Paul (Saul) how stupid he was for following The Oral law. Jesus’ followers were keeping Torah Law as was Jesus. They were not Christians and that term comes from Bible mistranslations. When Paul stopped being a “Jew” he went back to the written law. He did not start Christianity. Christianity morphed out of what Paul started. What changed? That is for another time. But notice Paul’s words here…

Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

 

Paul follows everything written in the Law! And look at what he said here…

Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

 

Again, the doers of the Law shall be justified! And again..

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

Rom 6:2 God forbid.

 

Sin is breaking the Law. And as Jesus said…

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

 

and again…

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

 

Law and commandments! Neither of them ever preached anything else in spite of what Christians have been erroneously taught. Jesus and Paul would have nothing to do with modern day Christianity. It is a faith based doctrine totally opposite of what Jesus taught about keeping the Law and commandments.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 11, 2019, 8:37 p.m. No.5135155   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8969 >>2068

>>5128060

>>5127924

>>5127874

>>5127773

 

Part II

 

𝟑 𝐏𝐚𝐮𝐥 𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐨𝐝

 

But let’s look at what else Paul wrote. For example…

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

 

Wait a second, Paul just wrote that you are not justified by the law, but in Romans he says you ARE justified?

 

And let’s look at James for a second…

Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

 

Faith without works is dead! (Works is keeping the written law)

 

But here we have Paul contradicting James right?…

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

 

How can Paul say you do not need works when James says you do? And what did Jesus say about works?…

Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

 

Every Christian needs to read this over and over until they get it. You are going to be judged by your works – not by some mental image you have of Jesus Christ. And even John tells us many years after Jesus’ crucifixion the same thing again…

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

 

Again, by your works. But how can Paul claim this is not true? The POINT IS AND THE PROBLEM is that people do not understand what Paul is referring to. He is bad mouthing the law and works of the Jewish religion and their “laws” and “works”! For example many Jews think putting on a Yamalke is pleasing to God. That is boastful works – to think this little tradition means something to God when it does not. Same thing with lighting candles at the Sabbath. God never asked this of anyone. This is not a main Jewish tradition not sanctioned by God. It is a boastful work. And when the Jews accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath they were talking about their Sabbath not the Sabbath of the Torah. One based on the written Law and one based on oral law. 2 different laws.

 

These ordinances of religion are what Paul means that you cannot be justified by when he talks about works not helping you. Works of law, ordinances, rule-keeping, law code, are all terms Paul uses to describe the Jewish religious laws that he says “No one can do” and “cannot help you”. He is not talking about the Torah Law in these instances. But the average person is never taught this and you folks think no one can do all the Torah Law and Torah cannot help you. WRONG! It is Torah that makes you righteous to God and in the OT they were given for all people not just Israelites. It is Jewish law that is just for Jews.

 

In Galatians 3 :11 – “you are not justified by the Jewish law” is what he is saying. And in Ephesians 2:8-9 “ not by religious works of Jewish law shall any man boast” is what he means. And here this verses is highly mistaken…

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

 

This is not talking about the Mosaic written Law. It is talking about the Jewish customs or oral law. The handwriting by men of ordinances (dogma) is against us. And this goes for any religion’s ordinances and all Christian ones. Religious rituals are meaningless to God.

 

Let’s look at 2 more Paul verses…

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

 

What Paul is saying is Jesus was born under written Law and he came to redeem those under oral law.

 

Now you can understand what Paul is saying and why people do not get this. And many that read this will still not get it. But some will.

 

Now go back and look at the things you asked me of. I study the Law. You study Christianity. And even if you do not what I wrote is for you too. If you are Jewish you need to again understand your rituals violate Torah Law. If that is so then who are you following?

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 12, 2019, 8:07 a.m. No.5140582   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1897 >>8697

>>5138969

You are reading into Paul what is not there. For example…

Mat 23:23  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees…and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

 

Mercy and grace ARE PART OF THE LAW. You do not get grace for doing nothing. Grace comes when you do the law and for some reason one day you cannot keep it. Like being late for work 1 day out of 20. They give you grace that day.

 

And what is love?…

Joh 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments. 

 

To love God, yourself, and your neighbor is the result of keeping the Law and the summation of it.

 

Again, due to misunderstanding of Paul you are telling people there is no need to keep the Law and that we simply need to throw ourselves on the mercy of Jesus. That is FALSE doctrine and Paul never taught this, but that is what is taught incorrectly. As Paul says…

 

Act 24:14  But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: 

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 12, 2019, 11:44 a.m. No.5144139   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4548 >>5992

>>5142068

Do you have reading issues? You did not read what I posted and you do not understand Paul. Can this be more plain?…

 

Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 

 

What is it there you do not get? Oh, but wait. What about this…

 

Gal 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 

 

A contradiction? No. Paul is talking about 2 DIFFERENT laws. In Romans it is the Law. In galatians it is the Talmudic oral law. This is the issue. You folks do not get that Paul talks about 2 laws not 1.

 

You are judged according to Torah Law and that defines sin. Whether you call yourself a Christian or Jew or Atheist is totally irrelevant. Whether you imagine Jesus or Abraham in your dreams is irrelevant. You and everyone who has lives will be judged by your sins/works.

 

The scriptures tell us this over and over.

 

Mat 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 

 

Rev 20:13  And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 

 

No one is judged by God as to whether he worships Jesus or not and no where did Jesus command it. Law 2, 7 and 8 point to this however.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 12, 2019, 11:54 a.m. No.5144264   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4596 >>5992

>>5142091

This is simply a lie. You are espousing some Baptist of other dogma. And this idea is very vain and very divisive.

 

Nowhere in the bible does it say this. I have given you the verses that you will not read for some reason.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 12, 2019, 3:40 p.m. No.5147448   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8069 >>8093

>>5144596

Please listen…

 

  1. You are talking about Abraham first. Let's look at the entire picture of Abraham shall we? This is the verse you never read…

 

Gen 26:5  Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. 

 

Abraham equal FAITH + WORKS.

 

  1. "Deeds of law" is NOT Mosaic Law. That is religious rituals. Every religions has deeds of law or works of law. NOT Torah. Torah is simply Law.

 

  1. Works here is NOT Mosaic Law again. That is the problem with Paul. He is explaining to people that Jewish rituals, deeds of law, rule-keeping, is NOT to be done.

 

  1. The law of faith? Let's compare bible translations here. The first one is a Christianized bible…

 

Romans 3:27

(CEV)  What is left for us to brag about? Not a thing! Is it because we obeyed some law? No! It is because of faith.

 

Seems to say no Law, just faith right? But how can that be if the law is in effect which it is or we would not be sinners right? 2nd comparison…

 

(LITV)  Then where is the boasting? It was excluded. Through what law? Of works? No, but through a Law of faith.

 

Again, be careful when Paul uses the word works. It usually means religious works (lighting candles, wearing hats, drinking wines, etc. As these things mean nothing to God if not written in the bible to do.)

 

But look at this bible…

 

(TS2009)  Where, then, is the boasting? It is shut out. By what torah? Of works? No, but by the torah of belief.

 

The Torah of belief? Faith, belief, makes your will and drive to keep the Law more desirable.

 

Faith + Works = Justified/righteous in the sight of God. Nowhere does Jesus endorse sin.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 12, 2019, 3:54 p.m. No.5147669   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8116

>>5145737

I hear what you say, but you are living a delusion. No offense to you, but you are espousing Christian church dogma. Let me explain a little…

 

You need to understand what sin is. Due to the ignorance, naivity, or control of the Christian preachers priests, etc. Law is never taught. Only faith and grace from the Christian perspective. We hear the preacher tell the people "You are sinners" every week, but has one ever told them to NOT SIN? Why not teach people to not sin? Instead the seem to allow sin with the hope and thought that somehow "Your sins are blotted out by Jesus". That is the delusional part.

 

According to John in the NT what is sin? Not what you are told at church or by friends. What is sin?…

 

1Jn 3:4  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 

 

Sin is breaking the Law. It is that simple. there is not other truer explanation of the word sin. And if you are a sinner then the Law is in effect. (However, Jewish law is NOT in effect and that is Paul's message, though it is hard to understand I have been trying to explain).

 

What about sin? Sin is a killer. God said sex with a man if you are a man is a sin. Why? He is trying to keep you from the myriad of disease issues that can arise. They did not have science telling them anal sex and blood to blood sharing can cause all kinds of problems back then. But now we know why that commandment. Are you telling me if I love Jesus with all my heart he does not care if I get AIDS? Can he block that out? Of course he cares.

 

What about the other sins? Easter is a sin. Worshipping Aestarte is evil to God. A sin. But you do that and think Jesus is okay with that? Yous how God your ARE NOT in synch with his wishes when you do these things.

 

How should you treat your employees? You probably think you have good workplace rules for them, but are actually sinning against them daily. You are hurting them thinking you do good.

 

What about food you eat? Is your body not a temple of God? Do you think Jesus cares that you destroy it by eating unclean foods? Of course he cares. How can he block out your cancer?

 

See you folks think sin is disrupting some Jesus + you mojo connection and have not been taught that sins are PHYSICAL things you do that hurt you, your mate, your friend, your employees, your animals, etc etc etc. What you think is good most of the time is EVIL to God and out of synch. For example…

 

An Episcopal friend goes to church in Sunday. Before he worships he eats the breakfast buffet and has bacon and eggs. He then goes and watches the priest do the ceremony and worships the Trinity (not biblical).

 

This typical regiment caused him to sin 5 times this morning. 5 sins in that typical scenario.

 

Learn to keep the Holy Days, the Food laws, the sex laws, and that is a good place to start. Or as they said in Acts to start keeping the Law do this…

 

Act 15:29  by keeping away from food sacrificed to false gods, from eating bloody meat, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual sins. If you avoid these things, you will be doing what's right. Farewell! 

 

Same for today.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 12, 2019, 8:13 p.m. No.5151076   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1794 >>1999 >>6568

>>5148069

There have been many covenants and Laws over time. Much more than Mosaic Law.

 

Adam and Eve had Law. We do not know what they were, but they violated them or there would have been no sin in the "garden".

 

After Adam and Eve God gave us the Noahide Laws in Gen 9. And it is these Laws today's Jews want to put the Gentile under if they have their way.

 

Then we have the Mosaic Law which was for EVERYBODY and defines sin through today. The reason YOU and I are sinners is because we break the Mosaic Law. Me not so much anymore, but Christians daily.

 

Then this Mosaic Law slightly changed after Jesus died since the need for animal sacrifice was done away with and also since the atonement for sin was moved to the tribe of Judah and taken from Levi. In fact this is what the New Covenant is of today. A simple change in sin atonement after Jesus death. However, Jesus death did not remove sin from the world. It changed the procedure for atonement. (And his death does not mean you can sin while imagining him smiling down at you either).

 

And finally there will be another covenant for those raised from the dead after the coming of the Messiah. As we read…

 

Jer 31:31  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 

Jer 31:32  Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 

Jer 31:33  But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 

 

As most Christians read the NT and believe Abraham was a man of faith, I always point out that he kept the Law. His Law. Which would have been the Noahide Law I guess for his time period. And you do know Abraham was NOT a Jew or Israelite correct? He was an Amorite. Why the Jews back claim him I do not know.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 12, 2019, 8:20 p.m. No.5151143   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1615

>>5148697

No. You sin. And need to stop it. No Christian has ever repented. Why? Because they are never taught the Law. Again, sins are physical things that hurt situations and people. They are not things that mess up your MOJO with Jesus and he simply wipes the MOJO clean.

 

If Christians knew what sins were the country and world would be IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE. You destroy things practicing the lawless religion of Christianity and miss out on the bigger picture.

 

For example, why don't Christians keep the Feat of Trumpets? You ever heard of it? The reason is the Jews changed it to some ritual called Rosh Hoshannah which masks it.

 

When does Jesus return?…

1Co 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 

 

At the last trumpet. Revelations - 7 seals, bowls and trumpets. At the last trumpet he comes. So God told us to blow the trumpet to usher in his coming and say "Come now Jesus". But the preachers have you hold hands and pray for Jesus to return. Not the way God said to do it.

 

Why do Christians keep Easter? Nowhere did God or Jesus say to make his resurrection a festival did he? It is Jesus' DEATH AND SHEDDING of blood we are told to follow once a year called the Passover! But again the Jews changed the meaning and created a Seder. A seder is nothing to do with the Passover.

 

When you keep God's Holy Days that is the first step to keeping the Law and repenting. Get in synch with God not man's holy BS days.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 12, 2019, 8:24 p.m. No.5151197   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1605 >>6560

>>5148116

Satan sure has you blinded. You are a salesman to sin. And for the LAST time there is no such thing as "missing the mark" to define sin. That is Christian DOGMA.

 

Why can't you people believe in the word of God? Can you show me where the bible says sin is missing the mark? What mark? I can show you this…

 

1 John 3:4

(CEV)  Everyone who sins breaks God's law, because sin is the same as breaking God's law.

 

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

(LITV)  Everyone practicing sin also practices lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

 

(TS2009)  Everyone doing sin also does lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

 

(YLT)  Every one who is doing the sin, the lawlessness also he doth do, and the sin is the lawlessness,

 

Did you read this? Should I post it again for you?…

 

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

(KJV)  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 13, 2019, 7:11 a.m. No.5155190   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6770 >>2568

>>5151605

And if you understand the Word of God you will avoid evil and avoid Satan, Otherwise you have no clue where he is leading you.

 

The Word and the Law take you OUT of sin. You have not read these words as you were falsely told they were for Jews only. No, it is Jewish Law that is for Jews not the Written Law of God. Quit following unclean food laws, keeping false holy days, etc. You are not in synch with God's plan.

 

Go read the TOP POST from the main anon hear and re-read my posts. You are still trying to justify no Law.

 

Again the OT was for you too. Please read…

 

There were rules for gentiles in order to remain in Israel. Such as…

 

Deu 31:12 Everyone must come–men, women, children, and even the gentiles who live in your towns. And each new generation will listen and learn to worship the LORD their God with fear and trembling and to do exactly what is said in God's Law.

 

Lev 16:29 On the tenth day of the seventh month of each year, you must go without eating to show sorrow for your sins, and no one, including gentiles who live among you, is allowed to work.

 

Lev 17:10 I will turn against any of my people who eat blood. This also includes any gentiles living among you.

 

Lev 20:2 to say to the community of Israel: Death by stoning is the penalty for any citizens or gentiles in the country who sacrifice their children to the god Molech.

 

Lev 24:22 I am the LORD your God, and I demand equal justice both for you Israelites and for those gentiles who live among you.

 

Num 9:14 Anyone, including gentiles who live among you, can celebrate Passover, if they follow all the regulations.

 

Num 15:14 And the gentiles who live among you must also follow these rules.

 

Num 15:15 This law will never change. I am the LORD, and I consider all people the same, whether they are Israelites or gentiles living among you.

 

Num 15:26 the sin of everyone–both Israelites and gentiles among you–will be forgiven.

 

Num 19:10 The man who collects the ashes must wash his clothes, but will remain unclean until evening. This law must always be obeyed by the people of Israel and the gentiles living among them.

 

Deu 5:14 but the seventh day of the week belongs to me, your God. No one is to work on that day–not you, your children, your oxen or donkeys or any other animal, not even those gentiles who live in your towns. And don't make your slaves do any work.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 13, 2019, 7:13 a.m. No.5155210   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2538

>>5151615

Who said you do? But if you know what sin is you can stop doing it. Quit making excuses as to not keeping the Law. If you believe in the Word then you need to repent and try to live a righteous life.

 

Again you are trying to support a life of sin saying there is nothing you can do about it. That means nothing and again is a defeatest atititude.

 

Quit espousing evil Christian lies.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 13, 2019, 7:18 a.m. No.5155260   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>5151999

No one does. The promises were made to Israel not to Jews. To think the Jews are the chosen people is a result of mass brainwashing and ignorance. Again God loved Israel. Jesus hated the Jews.

 

Know that there is a difference. And again the media has seemed to lump the 2 together as one and they are not one. Judaism is 180 degrees opposite of the Israel system. The Talmud is NOT an explanation of the Torah. It is a go around.

 

Mat 23:15  "How horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites!

 

Mat 23:16  "How horrible it will be for you, you blind guides!

 

Mat 23:19  You blind men!

 

Mat 23:33  "You snakes! You poisonous snakes! How can you escape being condemned to hell? 

 

Now tell me why preachers do not head the words of Jesus himself and perpetuate the lie that the Jews are the chosen people? Again, people do not understand Judaism and that is the problem. Even Jews do not understand Judaism!

 

"My people suffer for lack of knowledge". (Who are his people?)

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 13, 2019, 7:22 a.m. No.5155312   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6485 >>6514

>>5148484

The New Covenant simply means that Jesus is now in charge of sin atonement not the tribe of Levi. The word covenant also means agreement. If you do "A" then God does "B". This term New Covenant does not mean the removal of the Law.

 

For if there was no Law then no one would be a sinner.

Anonymous ID: abcfef The Law guy has a comment... Feb. 13, 2019, 7:39 a.m. No.5155495   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6461 >>7959

Fellow anons and bible fags…

 

This is "the Law guy" here. I want you to know a couple things. As you see I document everything I say with scripture. None of what I say is opinion. My mission is to repent the Christian and the Jew out of their religions and come back to the WRITTEN word of God. There was never a Law for Jews and Jesus for the Christian. Faith + works is the answer. What is bad for 1 man is bad for another.

 

But some Jews will tell you that the Christian needs to stay away from the Law. In fact they will even pose as Christians in order to lead other Christians away from the Law. I have encountered this problem on other forums too. They do not want you practicing what they think is "theirs". So pay attention to the shilling. To try and keep someone from the Law is about as evil as it gets.

 

Also, I come across the "born again" Christian types who simply think that if you keep 1 word of the Law then you are going to hell since they believe Jesus died one day and did away with the Law and if you do not believe this then you have no faith in Jesus. I am not sure why this has been taught or who foisted it upon the Christian. If there was not Law then we would not be sinners and if we are not sinners then no one needs Jesus. The Law is in effect except for the Levite sacrifice Laws which are now moot. This is what changed.

 

When the bible says in Collossians 2:14 he hung the ordinances to the cross that does not mean Law. Ordinances are Jewish dogma. The entire point of Jesus and Paul's writings is to show you the contrast between Jewish law and Torah Law. But people miss this. When Paul says in Romans 2:13 you will be justified by the Law he means Mosaic Law. When Paul says in Galatians 3:11 no man is justified by the law he means Jewish oral law (Talmud). Until people get this the bible will never make sense and will seem in contradiction. and it causes people to use weird explanations to justify these contraditctons instead of realizing Paul talks about 2 sets of laws not one.

 

I don't mean to monopolize the board, but I have been challenged to support my stance and I love this and will answer the questions. If the BO wants to tone it down he can send me an email. Otherwise I will keep fighting the good fight.

 

One last thing…even though I am posed with questions, and the person asking them will never believe my answers, I do not answer for him most of the time. I answer for those with an open mind reading along. If I reach 5 people out of 100 then I have done my job as many do not heave ears to hear and eyes to see just yet.

 

Also, I would suggest you copy and paste these answers into Word for future referall.

 

  1. Mat 13:9 The one having ears to hear, let him hear.

Mat 13:10 And coming near, the disciples said to Him, Why do You speak to them in parables?

Mat 13:11 And answering, He said to them, Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven, but it has not been given to those.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 13, 2019, 11:17 a.m. No.5158090   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8211

>>5157826

First of all let's look at that verse in the King James bible shall we?…

 

Col 2:14  Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 

 

Who writes hand writing? Men do. What are ordinances? Are the the Law? Let's examine the word. It comes form a Greek word. What is that word?…

 

dogma

dog'-mah

From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

 

Ordinances there is from the word "Dogma". Decrees of men. Doctrines. NOT OF GOD.

 

As I tried to make you see Jesus nailed DOGMA to the stake. Jewish dogma. All dogma. Even Christian dogma.

 

Unfortunately your perspective is taught weekly in churches and you were misled. Dogma is not the written Law.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 13, 2019, 11:19 a.m. No.5158110   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8220

>>5156770

Again, you do not understand what you are reading. As I posted below the word "ordinances" is NOT WRITTEN LAW. It comes from the Greek word Dogma…

 

dogma

 

dog'-mah

 

From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

 

Ordinances there is from the word "Dogma". Decrees of men. Doctrines. NOT OF GOD.

 

As I tried to make you see Jesus nailed DOGMA to the stake. Jewish dogma. All dogma. Even Christian dogma.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 13, 2019, 1:19 p.m. No.5159418   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9515

>>5158316

He is incorrect. Sorry to tell you. He does not "get" Paul. Many other "Scholars" do not get Paul. In Galatians Paul is explaining the difference of oral law vs. Mosaic law. Galatians 3:11 is NOT Torah Law.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 13, 2019, 1:23 p.m. No.5159481   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9530

>>5158211

Jesus paid the PENALTY for sin. He took on sin atonement. Sin atonement changed from the tribe of Levi to the tribe of Judah at Jesus' death.

 

What was the penalty for sin? The shedding of blood. Since we do not need to do this there is no need for Levites. Seen any lately? The building of the Jew's new temple steps on Jesus death.

 

However, Jesus did not remove sin from the world. Who told you this?

 

He removed the penalty. But you are going to be judged by your works. And works are measured by the Law.

 

Heb 10:26  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 14, 2019, 1:54 p.m. No.5174723   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4871

>>5171170

>There have been many covenants and Laws over time. Much more than Mosaic Law.

>

>Adam and Eve had Law. We do not know what they were, but they violated them or there would have been no sin in the "garden".

>

>After Adam and Eve God gave us the Noahide Laws in Gen 9. And it is these Laws today's Jews want to put the Gentile under if they have their way.

>

>Then we have the Mosaic Law which was for EVERYBODY and defines sin through today. The reason YOU and I are sinners is because we break the Mosaic Law. Me not so much anymore, but Christians daily.

>

>Then this Mosaic Law slightly changed after Jesus died since the need for animal sacrifice was done away with and also since the atonement for sin was moved to the tribe of Judah and taken from Levi. In fact this is what the New Covenant is of today. A simple change in sin atonement after Jesus death. However, Jesus death did not remove sin from the world. It changed the procedure for atonement. (And his death does not mean you can sin while imagining him smiling down at you either).

>

>And finally there will be another covenant for those raised from the dead after the coming of the Messiah. As we read…

>

>Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

>

>Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

>

>Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

>

>As most Christians read the NT and believe Abraham was a man of faith, I always point out that he kept the Law. His Law. Which would have been the Noahide Law I guess for his time period. And you do know Abraham was NOT a Jew or Israelite correct? He was an Amorite. Why the Jews back claim him I do not know.

>>5171150

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 14, 2019, 1:58 p.m. No.5174794   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4969

>>5171175

There was no reason the change Paul's name to from Saul. the reason the KJ bible did is to make you think he became Christian or some other reason. Jesus did not change his name. It just changed magically.

 

Again, re-read what Paul wrote…

 

Act 24:14  But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: 

 

Rom 2:13  For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 

 

Paul taught and kept the written Law. He taught against oral law. Unfortunately the bible do not preface which laws Paul is talking about.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 14, 2019, 2:01 p.m. No.5174863   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4983

>>5171161

That is such a stupid assertion I do not even know where to start.

 

Let me remind you we are going to be judged by our works. The fact that there is no Temple is well known to God. That fact that I keep the Passover according to the Law, NOT A SEDER, will also be known to God.

 

If you are a JEW and keep the Passover Seder, designed to turn you away from the true meaning of Passover, I hope God has pity for you on your judgment day.

 

If you are a Christian and keep Easter, designed to turn you away from the true meaning of Passover, I hope God has pity for you on your judgment day.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 14, 2019, 2:09 p.m. No.5174970   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4990 >>5000 >>5093 >>5118 >>5178

>>5171247

Following God's Law IS NOT MASSIVE AND HEROIC. What is massive about this?…

 

  1. Do not have sex with your mother?

  2. Do not eat unclean meat.

  3. Do not eat any manner of blood.

 

What is hard about this? Since you have not studied the Law you are making incorrect assumptions based on the word "Law". And you folks confuse Torah Law for all people with Jewish Talmudic Law. It is Jewish Law no one can keep.

 

Have you ever read the rules for the sabbath and compared the Torah requirements to the Jewish requirements? The 2 are night and day.

 

Jesus came to TURN THEM BACK TO THE LAW OF MOSES. It is not they they did not accept him per se, it is that they did not accept what he was telling them about what they were doing and how they are being perceived! This is all about sin and Law.

 

And Jesus DID NOT COME AS MESSIAH EITHER. He will be, but he came to repent them back to the Law amongst 5 or 6 other reasons he said he came. He did not come close to fulfilling half the requirements of Messiah.

 

His light is simple. The Law. His gospel is simple. The Law. He and Paul had nothing to do with Christianity.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 14, 2019, 6:36 p.m. No.5180215   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0220

>>5164508

pt. 1

 

𝐖𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐇𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐬

 

Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

 

Under what terms are we to wash our hands? God told us in the bible when we were required to wash simple as that. Even Israel wandered the desert. Where did they wash? Due to “fear” marketing and making us think we need to wash all the time we wash way too much. When did God tell us when to wash?

 

𝐓𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐡 𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐰𝐚𝐬𝐡 𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐬

 

Ritual Purity and Impurity (when to wash)

 

DEFILE, v.t.

 

To make unclean; to render foul or dirty; in a general sense.

 

  1. Lev 11:27 And any going on its paws among all the living things which go on all four, they are unclean to you; anyone who touches their dead body is unclean until the evening;

 

  1. That anyone who touches the carcass of a beast that died of itself shall be unclean (Lev. 11:39)

 

  1. That a lying-in woman is unclean like a menstruating woman (in terms of uncleanness) (Lev. 12:2-5)

 

  1. That a leper is unclean and defiles (Lev. 13:2-46)

 

  1. That a man, having a running issue, defiles (Lev. 15:1-15)

 

  1. That the seed of copulation (sex secretions of the man or the woman) defiles (Lev. 15:16)

 

  1. That a corpse defiles (Num. 19:11-16) “He who touches the dead body of anyone shall be unclean seven days.

 

Remedy for defilement -

That the waters of separation defile one who is clean, and cleanse the unclean from pollution by a dead body (Num.19:19-22)

 

In other words wash with water to remove these small sins. (Yes, these are sins). These are the only times you are required to wash according to God. Very simple Laws. Can we keep these Laws? Of course we can.

 

𝐎𝐫𝐚𝐥-𝐉𝐞𝐰𝐢𝐬𝐡 𝐋𝐚𝐰 𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐰𝐚𝐬𝐡 𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐬

 

Now we are going to look at how the Jewish oral law in the form of the Kabbalah and the Talmud tell the Orthodox Jews (same as the Pharisees) how and when to wash. These rules are what Paul followed as a Rabbi and renounced after his conversion back to the Written Law. As he wrote…

 

Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

 

The following rules for handwashing are the types of Jewish laws Paul said “No one can remember or do”. Torah? Easy to do. Jewish law? Only a Rabbi can remember and they are overkill. God never demanded any of this! First let’s look at the demands of the Kabbalah.

𝐃𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐥𝐨𝐠𝐲

 

All forms of demonology were adopted by the Pharisees and incorporated into so-called Judaism. Demons of the privy, of the night, of every phase of nature, were and are catered to by the tenets and customs of this sect. The Talmud book of Yadayim (hands) is, for example, on ritual hand-washing in connection with Pharisee demonology. The Talmud is larded with occult works and practices.

The Pharisee custom in Christ’s time of drizzling water alternately on the hands, to carry off demons (who presumably live in water) is still in force. The “Code of Jewish Law” (Schulchan Aruch), which is a digested “Mishna” of the Talmud, holds that an evil spirit takes over a sleeping person:

“When he rises from his sleep the evil spirit departs from his entire body excepting from his fingers. From there the unclean spirit does not depart unless he spills water on them three times alternately. One is not permitted to walk four cubits without having his hands washed.” (Schulchan Aruch, Vol. 1, Chapter II: Hebrew Publishing Co. 77-9 Delancey St., New York, copyright 1927). Says the Soncino Edition of the Talmud, in the Introduction to Yadayim (handwashing):

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 14, 2019, 6:36 p.m. No.5180220   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>5180215

pt. 2

 

𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐨𝐧 𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐰𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠

 

Traditional Judaism requires certain types of ritual washing. Some of these types do not require a special ritual body of water (and can be done with tap water):

  1. Netilat yadayim (“Raising [after ritually washing] the hands”), also known as Mayim Rishonim, which is done with a blessing, prior to eating any bread with a meal

  2. Mayim acharonim (“After-waters”) a law or custom of ritually washing one’s fingers after a meal, to protect oneself from touching the eyes with hazardous residue.[3]

 

  1. Netilat Yadayim Shacharit (“Raising [after ritually washing] the hands of the morning”), when getting up in the morning[4] after a full night’s sleep, or even after a lengthy nap, by pouring a large cup of water over one’s hands, alternating three times.

 

  1. Netilat yadayim (without a blessing) to remove tuma (“impurity”) after:

  2. Touching objects[ambiguous] that convey tumah such as:

  3. A part of the body customarily covered[4] (private parts, back, arm pits, etc.)

  4. Inside of nose or ear

  5. The scalp (but not if one just touched the hair)

  6. Leather shoes

  7. A ritually unclean animal or insect

  8. Cutting one’s hair or nails

  9. Taking off one’s shoes[4]

  10. Visiting a cemetery[4]

  11. Sexual intercourse.[4] Some communities observe a requirement for washing one’s body (which may be done with tap water) after the above or after otherwise experiencing a seminal emission since these activities make the man baal keri (one who is impure due to ejaculation.)

 

  1. After visiting the bathroom,[4] the ritual washing of one’s hands as a symbol of both bodily cleanliness and of removing human impurity – see Netilat yadayim above.

 

  1. To remove tumat met (“impurity from death”) after participating in a funeral procession or coming within four cubits of a corpse.

 

  1. During a Passover Seder, netilat yadayim[5] is performed without any blessing being recited, before the eating of a vegetable, called karpas, prior to the main meal.

 

  1. Every Kohen present has his hands ritually washed in synagogue by the Levi’im (Levites) before uttering the Priestly Blessing in front of the congregation.

 

  1. Some have the custom of washing their hands prior to scribal work.

There are even more rules to wash hands. No one can keep these. Jesus, the master of Torah Law, laughed at the Pharisees. Paul renounced them. And no one is required to follow these rules except for orthodox Jews which have violated a major Law of Torah…

 

Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 14, 2019, 6:48 p.m. No.5180429   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0441 >>5996 >>7136 >>7140

>>5175118

THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE HERE DUDE IS VERY SIMPLE…

 

These Laws ARE NOT THE TORAH LAWS! You have cut and pasted them from Judaism 101 and they are REVISED Torah Laws converted into Jewish Rabbinical use. Again you folks talk about the "Law" and do not know what you are doing. Quit acting like you know WT%F you are doing okay? If you are a Christian then you really do not get the Law and if you are a Jew shill I wish you folks would send someone a little smarter next time okay?

 

That being said…I follow the Laws I encounter daily that apply. A lot of what you posted does not even apply to you or me. Do you have a beat or ox? Etc.

 

But how hard is it to keep the Law to honor God? Pretty easy. What is so hard about that? Most of these are pretty simple even if they are not Torah!

 

Let me give you an example or two though of how the Jews changed the Torah Law INTO WHAT YOU POSTED AS LAW, but is not okay dude? Pay attention. For example…

 

The Law said…

(Lev. 19:17) “You shall not hate your brother in your heart. You shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him.”

 

Jewish law changed to…

Not to put any Jew to shame.

 

Oh? They excluded neighbors and directed it to Jews only? Why did you do this? And…

 

The Law said…

(Lev. 19:13) . “You shall not cheat your neighbor, nor rob him.”

 

Jewish law changed to…

Not to rob by violence.

 

Oh really? You can cheat your neighbor but not by violence? What a nice change! How sweet of you.

 

The Law said…

(Deuteronomy 6:6-7) “These words which I command you today shall be in your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up.”

 

Jewish law changed to…

Read the Shema in the morning and at night.

 

What read the Shema? That is not what God said for that law is it?

 

You folks have changed Torah. These 613 laws ARE NOT TORAH LAWS dude. Why act like you are "All that"? Please stop and start reading.

 

Deu 4:2  Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. 

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 14, 2019, 6:54 p.m. No.5180525   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5974

>>5175000

You have no clue what the requirements are for the sabbath do you? Yes I have. Not by Jewish law however. The sabbath is a day of freedom not a day of Jewish restraint.

 

Hate is not a sin.

 

Calling a fool is not a sin.

 

You do not know the biblical definition of lust.

 

Etc.

 

You do not know what you are talking about.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 16, 2019, 8:45 a.m. No.5206739   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8332

>>5206356

That picture does NOT represent Jesus. The symbols to the right and left of his neck and the way he is holding his hand is all esoteric. Also, when you see a round circle around his head and a cross like that one this is another indicator it is "someone" else".

 

Circles around these "peoples" (or their "gods") represent the sun. These are sun signs.

 

This is probably a representation of some sun god. Not Jesus.

Anonymous ID: abcfef The Sabbath Feb. 16, 2019, 9:31 a.m. No.5207136   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7140

>>5164475

>>5180429

Pt. 1

 

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐚𝐭𝐡

 

It is mistakingly taught that the oral law is an extension or interpretation of the Torah Law. When you analyze the Torah Law against the oral law you find that the oral law is an “end run” around the Torah Law. Whereas the Torah Law is a restraint on certain actions the Talmud authorizes these actions due to some men getting together to give themselves power.

 

Moses said… (Deuteronomy 18:10-12): “There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or daughter to pass through the fire or that useth divination, or an observer of times or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of the abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.” (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) Yet all of these ARE PERMITTED by Judaistic Pharisee scripture as an end run around Torah. (See, for example, the Jewish Talmud, Sanhedrin 65a-b).

 

Let’s read from the NT and incident that happened one day…

 

Mat 12:12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

Mat 12:13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.

Mat 12:14 Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.

 

Several times we read in the NT where the Pharisees routinely confronted Jesus about their contradictory interpretations of the Law between them and him. They routinely accused Jesus of breaking the law, but it was their law they were talking about not God’s Law. Jesus was a problem for the Pharisees as he constantly rebuked their ways as being foreign to God. If the Jews were not and are not following the Laws of God then who are they and what are they following?

 

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐚𝐭𝐡 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐓𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐡 𝐋𝐚𝐰

 

What are the requirements from the Torah Law for keeping the Sabbath? They are very simple…

 

Do not light a fire

Do not buy, sell, trade, or do commercial work

Do not forsake assembling

Honor Jehovah

 

It is that simple. And the main one is of course “no commercial work” that involves making a living.

 

Here is an example of Israel keeping the Sabbath…

 

Neh 10:31 We won’t buy goods or grain on the Sabbath or on any other sacred day, not even from foreigners.

 

And the Sabbath was for the Gentile too not just Israelites…

 

Exo 20:9 You have six days to do all your work.

Exo 20:10 The seventh day is the day of worship dedicated to the LORD your God. You, your sons, your daughters, your male and female slaves, your cattle, and the foreigners (gentiles) living in your city must never do any work on that day.

 

Again this is very simple. Who cannot follow this if God asked this? The Sabbath is a day of freedom from work. If you want to fix your house go do it. If you want to travel to see the lake go do it. It is your day. The Sabbath was never intended to be a day of restraint until the Jews made it that way for their followers.

 

Eze 20:11 I gave them my laws and teachings, so they would know how to live right.

Eze 20:12 And I commanded them to respect the Sabbath as a way of showing that they were holy and belonged to me.

Eze 20:13 But the Israelites rebelled against me in the desert. They refused to obey my laws and teachings, and they treated the Sabbath like any other day. Then in my anger, I decided to destroy the Israelites in the desert once and for all.

 

As we see God was very angry.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 16, 2019, 9:31 a.m. No.5207140   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8377

>>5164475

>>5180429

>>5207136

 

Pt. 2

 

𝐓𝐚𝐥𝐦𝐮𝐝 𝐈𝐧𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐚𝐛𝐛𝐚𝐭𝐡

 

No Talmud book illustrates Christ’s depictions of Pharisaism better than the book of Sabbath. One way to go raving crazy is to study the Talmud book of Sabbath with its rules on what is or what is not permissible on the Sabbath. Concerning the Sabbath, even the digested laws, or Talmud Mishna in the Schulhan Aruch, take up 82 pages of Volume 2 (pages 63-145). When Paul writes about “All these rules and laws no one can keep” he is talking about the Jewish laws. This is why he left being a Pharisee. Again as Paul says…

 

Act 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

 

Remember, Paul followed WRITTEN LAW and Paul tries to explain the differences of the Law and again this is where the common student of the bible and most Christians miss the intent of Paul due to people not understanding Judaism.

 

Let’s look at some oral law, Talmudic, Pharisee requirements for the Sabbath…

 

𝐒𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐓𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐞

 

The sabbath table should be set with at least two candles (representing the dual commandments to remember and observe the sabbath), a glass of wine, and at least two loaves of challah (representing the dual portion of manna that God provided for the Israelites in preparation for Sabbath in the desert). The challah loaves should be whole, and should be covered with a bread cover, towel or napkin.

 

𝐋𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐂𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞𝐬

 

Candles should be lit no later than 18 minutes before sundown. For the precise time when Sabbath begins in your area, consult the list of candle lighting times provided by the Orthodox Union or any Jewish calendar.

 

At least two candles should be lit, representing the dual commandments to remember and to keep the sabbath. The candles are lit by the woman of the household. After lighting, she waves her hands over the candles, welcoming in the sabbath. Then she covers her eyes, so as not to see the candles before reciting the blessing, and recites the blessing below. The hands are then removed from the eyes, and she looks at the candles, completing the mitzvah of lighting the candles.

 

𝐁𝐥𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐂𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞𝐬

 

Barukh atah Adonai, Eloheinu, melekh ha’olam

Blessed are you, Lord, our God, sovereign of the universe

 

(REMEMBER NO WHERE IN THE TORAH DID GOD EVER COMMAND ANY OF THIS).

 

𝐊𝐢𝐝𝐝𝐮𝐬𝐡

 

Kiddush is recited while holding a cup of wine or other liquid, no less than 3.3 ounces. If wine or grape juice is not used, you should substitute shehakol nih’yeh bid’varo (by whose will all things come to be) for borei p’ri hagafen (who creates the fruit of the vine).

 

Vay’hi erev vay’hi voker yom hashishi

And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day

 

Following is a brief summary of some more of the Sabbath laws Jews follow:

 

• writing, erasing, and tearing;

• business transactions;

• driving or riding in cars or other vehicles;

• shopping;

• using the telephone;

• turning on or off anything which uses electricity, including lights, radios, television, computer, air-conditioners and alarm clocks;

• cooking, baking or kindling a fire;

• gardening and grass-mowing;

• doing laundry;

 

𝐌𝐮𝐤𝐭𝐳𝐚𝐡

 

Many objects have been designated by our sages as Muktzah–we are forbidden from moving them, in some cases, even for activities permitted on Sabbath. Muktzah may not be moved directly with one’s hand or even indirectly with an object (such as sweeping it away with a broom). However, Muktzah may be moved in a very awkward, unusual manner, with other parts of the body, e.g.: with one’s teeth or elbow, or by blowing on it.

 

𝐂𝐚𝐫𝐫𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠

 

On Sabbath one may not carry or transfer objects between a “reshut ha-yachid” (private, enclosed domain, such as the house); and a “reshut ha-rabim” (public domain, such as the street). Examples of this prohibition include: carrying in one’s pocket; carrying anything in the hand; wheeling a baby carriage or shopping cart, going outside with gum or food in the mouth.

 

𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧

 

Can we see now why Jesus laughed at the Jews? And we can also see what Paul meant when he said no one can keep all these laws (not the Torah Laws). Who developed all these customs and rituals? God never demanded this of anyone. And the problems is when the average person looks at the Jews carrying out these rituals they think this is what God asked for in the bible and it skews people from wanting to learn the Bible, but as we see the Jewish customs and rituals ARE NOT BIBLICAL and if they are not following God then who are these people?

 

Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 16, 2019, 1:47 p.m. No.5210616   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1316

>>5208377

First of all……you are mixing Jews and Israelites.

 

That being said what does it mean to not have eyes to see and ears to hear? Let's look at some things Jesus said…

 

Mat_7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

 

Luk_11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

 

Who knocks on this door to seek knowledge? Not too many people. And this goes for Jews AND Christians. Both groups are following traditions of the elders. How many Christian sects are there that are teaching contrary dogma, arguing, and telling their people to do blasphemous rituals and unbiblical rites?

 

And if what you are saying is true then why do all these people seem to find a religion of some sort, but cannot find the truth of the bible? Does blindness lead you to religion? Well, maybe it does. But lets look at another verse from Jesus…

 

Joh 6:63 …the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

 

The words he speaks are spirit and life! And also this…

 

Deu 8:3 …know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

 

Every word from God - not from men.

 

How many people do you know that say they are a "Good Christian" or "Good Jew" have truly taken the time to learn the bible and study every word as it is said to do? Not many. I know many folks who tomorrow will take their bible off the shelf and go to the pagan church to be a part of some group so they feel they did the right thing. They do not have eyes yet either do they? Does God owe them the knowledge that will open their eyes? Did they truly knock to seek this knowledge? Does God owe any person the insight of the bible at birth?

 

Do Jews knock on the door to learn the Torah when they can go to "Temple", sit for 2 hours, and watch some "Rabbi" go through his spiel? No. The Jew and the Christian are being led away from knowledge. And if they truly do not care, never knock, never seek, they will not find it either.

 

For example…if someone wants to be a weight lifter he cannot develop muscle by thinking about it. He must go lift the weights diligently. Same with bible discernment. You must have a burning desire or what is called "a calling" to master the bible or you will not "lift the weights". You will never piece together all the pieces of the puzzle that make the bible take on the bigger picture.

 

By the way…The bible tells us in Revelation 20:4-5 and 20:11-15 that there are 2 resurrections of the dead. The 1st resurrection is for the people who knocked, opened their eyes, and studied and repented. The 2nd is for everybody else and they will be judged by their works. God has not condemned people without “calling”, but they are not in this 1st resurrection. They missed the first bus you might say. And many people are not even familiar with this resurrection concept. It is God’s way of rewarding those who knocked.

 

Now this all being said…let's get back to the topics. If the Jews have been put to sleep spiritually THEN WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE AND WHY ARE WE TOLD THEY REPRESENT GOD? Who is perpetuating the myth that they are any better then the non-Jew? Why should I hold highly a group that as you say are put to sleep? And if these people are put to sleep why do they wake up to practice Talmudic writings, but cannot seem to search for Torah writings?

 

Over the years I have noticed that when I post my writings I get a very small amount of people who “get it”. If I post to a group of 20 only about 2 or 3 people truly get what I say. If I post to 100 that is only 10 people that get it. That to me is horrifying. To think these souls are wandering about clueless, truly do not care what God said, take part in some religion every now and then, and believe lies upon lies about topics such as the Jews.

 

As Paul said…

 

1Co 15:56  The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 

1Co 15:57  But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 

1Co 15:58  Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. 

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 16, 2019, 6:31 p.m. No.5214486   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8414 >>3271

>>5211316

So many mistakes you posted and truly you do not discern scripture very well. You are stating assumptions and finding some scripture that looks similar to your points, but are way off.

 

And the definition of a Jew is very well defined physically. Paul is talking spiritually. And he cannot mean the Pharisiac Jew of his time as he left this group.

 

In Romans 2 Paul is comparing the Jew that follows the oral law to the Israelite or spiritual "Jew". He is making comparisons. You do not see this.

 

And mankind is NOT one blood. Mankind has all kinds of races that differ by DNA. And Israel was forbidden to mix their lineage with other races. (Numbers in the OT). However, if swe are one blood why do the Jews write they are above all blood?

 

Did I ever say I define Jew by DNA? Why are you putting words in my mouth? I defined "the Jew" in my earlier posts. Born of Judah, converted into "Judaism", there are many definitions of "Jew". Jesus was a Jew by his being born thru the tribe of Judah. He was not a religious Jew and had nothing to do with Judaism.

 

The DAN that links today's Jews is from Russia and the Kazars. 90% off all people in America that call themselves Jews are Kazars (Russian) thus the stereotypical "Jew" look. Russians are linked by DNA. Jews are linked by practicing Judaism with its tacit allegiance to "the Rabbi".

 

Quit attacking me for telling you the truth. Where did I say I am a Pharisee? Do you not get what a Pharisee does? They practice oral law. Do you understand this?

 

The Jew prayed thank God he is not like other men? I have had Jewish friends from Israel just 2 weeks ago tell me they thank God they are not American Christians. Talk about racist MFs!

 

You tell me God made us blinded but now you say Satan blinded us? Can you be consistent please.

 

And again, I am down on Christians following false dogma as I am against the Jews. Both are following false doctrines of men.

 

You are all over the bible, inconsistant, and trying to prove some kind of point which I still cannot figure out what you are saying. Except for some reason you are defending something I am not sure what it is.

 

I hope you learn the Law and quit defending something else.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 17, 2019, 6:07 p.m. No.5233660   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>5227792

Actually that is NOT his name. And in Isaiah Yahweh is NOT his name. He has about 70 names, but this is what it means…

 

The word "name" means "power or "authority" in Hebrew. Yahweh is his power. I am who I am simply means that is his authority.

 

AND ALSO, NOTHING GOD SAID IS "FOREVER" is forever! It is only forever until God changes his mind. There were many things God said would be "Olam" and we do not see them now. Many things.

 

FYI. "Name" does not men a name. It means this is his power. (I come in the power (name) of God)

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 19, 2019, 2:33 p.m. No.5270688   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7926 >>5462 >>5483

>>5246542

Let's look at the word fulfil and Mathew 5:17…

 

In the NT sin is defined as breaking the OT Law!. As we read…

 

1Jo 3:4

 

(ALT) Every one practicing sin also practices lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

 

(CEV) Everyone who sins breaks God’s law, because sin is the same as breaking God’s law.

 

You posted about Jesus fulfilling the Law. This verse is mistakingly taught in the Christian church to mean somehow Jesus abolished the Law. That is impossible. As long as humans are in the flesh we must have a Law to follow or we live in 100% lawlessness. Even if you feel you have Jesus in your heart that has nothing to do when you practice unlawlessness – or sinning. If Jesus were truly in your heart you would not sin at all.

 

So let’s look at the rest of what you were referring to and take a harder look…

 

The Kingdom and Laws -

Mat 5:17 "Don't ever think that I came to set aside Moses' Teachings or the Prophets. I didn't come to set them aside but to fulfill…

 

The word fulfill is from the Greek word Plaroo and it means to verify, fully preach, perfect. This is what Jesus was doing.

 

fulfill from - play-ro'-o

From G4134; to make replete, that is, (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.: - accomplish, X after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply.

 

This is the first of 15 references to the Law by Jesus. However, what did Jesus fulfill? Notice he says “Moses teachings or the prophets”. The LAW did not come from the prophets so what he is fulfilling is simply the prophecies of his coming. His coming was to teach and explain the Law. As he says he did not come to abolish the Law

Mat 5:18 Truly I say to you, Till heaven and earth come to an end, not the smallest letter or part of a letter will in any way be taken from the law, till all things are done.

 

People teach verse 17, but not 18. It says on part of the Law will fail until all things are done. All things are not done yet.

 

Also in the NT we read verses such as Jesus explaining the Law…

Mat 23:23 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithes of mint and dill and cummin, and you have left aside the weightier matters of the Law: judgment, and mercy, and faith. It was right to do these, and not to have left those aside.

 

Joh 7:49 But not knowing the Law, this crowd is cursed.

 

Act 24:14 (GW) But I’ll admit to you that I’m a follower of the way of Christ, which they call a sect. This means that I serve our ancestors’ God and believe everything written in Moses’ Laws and the Prophets.

 

Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the Law are just with God, but the doers of the Law shall be justified.

 

and many more.

 

Christianity is lawlessness. It is not something Jesus would endorse. It is based on an incorrect teaching of Paul. Remember, as the previous posts show and even the very top post – Paul is discussing 2 sets of Laws not 1. That is where people are misled. As James says…

 

“Faith without works is dead”.

 

Finally you talk about love. What does Jesus say love is? Saying "I love you" to someone? As Jesus said…

Joh 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments. 

 

Joh 14:21  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 

 

The commandments summarize HOW to love God, yourself, and your neighbor. The Law IS LOVE.

 

And again, fulfill does not mean to get rid of. The Greek word has many meanings. You have been misled.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 19, 2019, 2:36 p.m. No.5270747   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5490

>>5266499

You do not understand love if you do not know the Law. As Jesus said…

 

Joh 14:15  If ye love me, keep my commandments. 

 

Joh 14:21  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 

 

The things people do many times as "love" are actually very sinful behavior. Satan is laughing his ass off.

 

Love is techniques defined by God.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 20, 2019, 11:01 a.m. No.5286443   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6793

>>5285483

You people do not even know what the word sin is. How can you admit to something you do not even know what you are admitting to?

 

You folks do not understand again what love is. I told you what Jesus said love is and you keep deflecting back to your Christian dogma.

 

TRULY I THINK YOU PEOPLE ARE JEW TROLLS PLAYING CHRISTIAN TO DEFLECT PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE LAW. YOU ARE A DEVIL SNAKE OIL SALESMAN OR WOMAN IN YOUR CASE.

 

You people should be ashamed of yourself playing like you really care.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 20, 2019, 8:28 p.m. No.5297119   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0804

>>5289245

The correct translation for this verse is this…

 

Rom 13:1  Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 

 

The higher powers are of God. Simple as that. Now how that became what we see in these bible here is beyond me. The newer bibles are skewed translations. All of these were put in for socio-political control. These do not make sense in a biblical way at all, but here they are…

 

Romans 13:1

(CEV)  Obey the rulers who have authority over you. Only God can give authority to anyone, and he puts these rulers in their places of power.

 

This bible next is a "Billy Graham" endorsed bible by the way…

 

(GW)  Every person should obey the government in power. No government would exist if it hadn't been established by God. The governments which exist have been put in place by God.

 

and yet more misleading…

 

(TS2009)  Let every being be in subjection to the governing authorities.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 21, 2019, 3:48 p.m. No.5312976   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8011

>>5311183

When it says Jesus takes the sins that means he takes over for the Levi priesthood for sin atonement. And that means you do not have to go see a priest to sacrifice a lamb for sin atonement. Jesus paid the PENALTY for sin which was shedding of blood.

 

He did not remove sins from the world - yet. You sin often. And he does not like sinners.

 

The dogma of the Christian church is to make people think that if they love Jesus their sins are repealed in real time. TOTAL POPPYCOCK. Your sins are evil and cause problems. Physical problems and more!

 

You are following him and in his footsteps when you keep his laws commandments and statutes as HE said to do not me.

 

This is future tense here…

 

Heb 9:28  So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. 

 

And this….

 

Heb 10:26  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 

 

A righteous person is one who follows what Jesus said. Not one who simply imagines Jesus in their mind.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 22, 2019, 4:07 p.m. No.5334731   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5282 >>9537

>>5329659

>>5330474

 

Looking at a woman with the desire to have sex is called NORMAL behavior! Do not fall into the trap of religious dogma controlling your thought process. The biblical, not political/civil definition of lust is “unlawful sex” and by unlawful it means sinful according to the Levtical sex laws which most Christians have never read. This definition accounts for the words lude, carnipiscious, adultery, fornication, lasciviousness, and ALL of these types of words.

 

Christianity has stepped on the Bible. Polygamy is endorsed by the Bible, but not by Christians. Concubines are endorsed by the Bible and saved many women’s lives! But now Christianity has stepped on this too. Masturbation – a sin according to some Christian religions but not the bible. Sex before marriage? Not a sin in the Bible.

 

NONE of these are sins and thus are not lust or lewd or adultery. King David, a man after God’s own heart, had 14 wives. Why was he not an adulterer? You folks do not understand the Law and are following false doctrines.

 

For example:

 

  1. If you wanted to have sex with an animal that is lewd or lust. It is a violation of Levitical Laws.

 

  1. To have sex or think about it with your sister is lewd or lust.

 

  1. To have sex with your parents is lewd.

 

  1. To have sex with another man’s wife is adultery.

 

  1. To have sex with a woman and her daughter is lust or lewd.

 

All of these violate the Law and are sins. To look at another human with desire is called NORMAL and is not a sin or lewd or lust. The Law defines these terms. If it is not listed it is NOT a Biblical sin and not biblical lust. Jesus knew what he meant when he said lust. Modern day people do not…

 

Lev 18:5 Live by my standards, and obey my rules. You will have life through them. I am the LORD.

Lev 18:6 "Never have sexual intercourse with anyone related to you by blood. I am the LORD.

Lev 18:7 "Never have sexual intercourse with your mother. She is your own mother. Never have sexual intercourse with her.

Lev 18:8 Never have sexual intercourse with your stepmother. She is related to you through your father.

Lev 18:9 Never have sexual intercourse with your stepsister, whether she is your father's daughter or your mother's daughter. It makes no difference whether or not she was born in your house.

Lev 18:10 Never have sexual intercourse with your granddaughter, whether she is your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter, because she is related to you.

Lev 18:11 Never have sexual intercourse with a daughter of your father and his wife. She is your own sister.

Lev 18:12 Never have sexual intercourse with your father's sister. She is your paternal aunt.

Lev 18:13 Never have sexual intercourse with your mother's sister. She is your maternal aunt.

Lev 18:14 Never have sexual intercourse with the wife of your father's brother. She, too, is your aunt.

Lev 18:15 Never have sexual intercourse with your daughter-in-law. She is your son's wife. Never have sexual intercourse with her.

Lev 18:16 Never have sexual intercourse with your sister-in-law. She is your brother's wife.

Lev 18:17 Never have sexual intercourse with a woman and her daughter or a woman and her granddaughter. They are related. Doing this is perverted.

Lev 18:18 While your wife is living, never marry her sister as a rival wife and have sexual intercourse with her.

Lev 18:19 "Never have sexual intercourse with a woman while she is unclean during her monthly period.

Lev 18:20 Never have sexual intercourse with your neighbor's wife and become unclean with her.

Lev 18:21 Never give your children as sacrifices to the god Molech by burning them alive. If you do, you are dishonoring the name of your God. I am the LORD.

Lev 18:22 Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.

Lev 18:23 Never have sexual intercourse with any animal and become unclean with it. A woman must never offer herself to an animal for sexual intercourse. It is unnatural.

Lev 18:24 "Do not become unclean in any of these ways. By these practices all the nations which I am forcing out of your way have become unclean.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 24, 2019, 7:02 p.m. No.5370242   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>5355831

This entire image you posted, the reference to Q, Hebrew letters with numbers. is all BS! You are wasting your time and are being sidetracked.

 

I asked a Kabbalah student once what his definition of sin was. He said there is no such thing as he tried to tell me about Kabbalah.

 

As Jesus said "you folks make the Law of no effect practicing your traditions".

 

What matters is how we act in our daily lives. Do not steal. Do not commit adultery. Studying Kabbalah is a waste of time.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 26, 2019, 12:07 p.m. No.5397943   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8019 >>0988

>>5396893

Only 1 human never sinned. God knows that. It is our responsibility to read what sin is and DO NOT DO IT. Period.

 

To say that "Jesus okays sin if you believe in him" is a satanic lie. It is because people do not understand what sin is that is causing the world's problems no matter what religion you are.

 

And Christians who do not study the OT have no clue what sin is. They talk about it, discuss, it, and have no clue what they are talking about. They love to hear themselves talk.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 26, 2019, 12:12 p.m. No.5398028   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>5396794

Absolutely NOT. They have not had anything to do with the OT since 900 BC. The OT Law was called the WRITTEN Law. The Jews are under what they call the oral law. However, God never gave us an oral Law. This is made up,

 

Read this…

 

Br Nathanael: Is Judaism based on the Old Testament Scriptures?

 

Michael Hoffman: No. By the time of Christ, Judaism was based on the “Oral Law.” The New Testament speaks of this as the “traditions of the elders.” Jesus Christ denounced and condemned the “traditions of the elders” in the Gospel of John Chapter 5 and in the Gospel of Mark Chapter 7.

 

After the Jewish leadership crucified Jesus Christ, and their subsequent killings and persecution of Christians throughout the Roman world, the rabbis committed to writing the “traditions of the elders” which formed the first part of the Talmud called the Mishnah.

 

This occurred in Babylon toward the end of the second century A.D. All subsequent books of the Talmud were composed in Babylon from the third century until the end of the sixth century A.D.

 

Br Nathanael: Is then Judaism based on the Talmud (the 2nd law spoke of in the bible) and not on the Bible?

 

Michael Hoffman: The hermeneutic system of Judaism is not based on the Bible but on the Talmud. This must be understood when dealing with the rabbis and their submissive flock. Judaism, though much in vogue with Evangelicals and Roman Catholics, is totally alien to the Bible.

 

Br Nathanael: You said above that Jesus Christ denounced the traditions of the elders? How so?

 

Michael Hoffman: The rabbis teach that the revelation granted to Moses had been delivered in two forms, a smaller revelation in writing, and the larger one kept oral.

 

The rabbis claim that the so-called “oral revelation” had been transmitted by the leaders of each generation to their successors—by Moses to Joshua; and then to the elders; to the prophets; to the men of the Sanhedrin; to the leaders of the Pharisees; and finally to the earliest rabbis who saw themselves as heirs of the Pharisees.

 

This supposed transmission of the Oral Law, the “tradition of the elders,” was challenged by Jesus who termed it “commandments of men which nullify the Word of God.”

 

Thus Jesus made the tale of the transmission a fraud. It is a lie concocted in hell to claim that Moses issued two sets of law, one written and public - the other oral and secret. In the entire Bible there is nothing to support this imposture. [Nowhere in the bible is it said God gave Moses an oral law]

 

Br Nathanael: So the oral tradition of the Jews is not consonant with the Old Testament?

 

Michael Hoffman: Not at all. The spurious claim of an oral “tradition of the elders” bequeathed by God to Moses is anti-Biblical, just as Jesus asserted.

 

Christ very simply illuminated the fact that if the Pharisaic tradition had indeed been from Moses, then they would have become his followers. For Christ rebuked them saying, “Had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me, for he wrote of Me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe My words?”

 

Br Nathanael: You say that the Talmud has made the Scriptures of none effect. How so?

 

Michael A. Hoffman: In the Gospel of Mark Chapter 7, Jesus rebuked the Pharisees saying, “You make the Word of God of none effect by your tradition that you have handed down.” There is little in the Talmud which refers to Old Testament Scriptures - but rather, teachings that are contrary to the Scriptures.

 

The Talmud teaches that a Jew may kill, steal, and lie to non-Jews with impunity - yet all of these actions are in violation of the 6th, 7th, and 9th commandments of Moses.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 26, 2019, 12:22 p.m. No.5398227   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8420 >>8616 >>8758

>>5398097

By your logic why do we need the 10 commandments then? Why do we need sex Laws? Why do we need food laws?

 

We need to try and learn to not sin. Why?

 

You tell me why we should not sin. No I will tell you…it causes death, pain, suffering, cheating of people, un love of others, puts you out of synch with God.

 

Also, you will be judged by your works and your works are based on your sins. Your salvation depends on NOT sinning.

 

I do not think you realize this. As Jesus said…

 

Mat 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 

 

And of you study the Laws you will understand God grants favor to those who keep it.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 26, 2019, 2:36 p.m. No.5400973   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1061

>>5398616

You read the words, but you do NOT understand what you are reading. What the argument is is this…DO YOU HAVE TO BECOME A JEW TO KEEP THE LAW. When he says is it necessary to circumcise them that means to convert them into becoming a JEW! Ask any Rabbi if you can keep the Passover and he will say "You must become a Jew first". Did God demand this?

 

Num 9:14 Anyone, including gentiles who live among you, can celebrate Passover, if they follow all the regulations.

 

Did you have to become a Jew to be commanded to not eat the blood of the animal? As we read…

 

Lev 17:10 I will turn against any of my people who eat blood. This also includes any gentiles living among you.

 

Do you have to be a Jew to keep the Sabbath? No…

 

Isa 56:6 Gentiles will follow me. They will love me and worship in my name; they will respect the Sabbath and keep our agreement.

 

BU THE TOTAL FALLACY OF YOUR ARGUMENT is the culmination of the meeting in Acts 15. As we read in Acts 15:29 they said…

 

Act 15:29  That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. 

 

THEY GAVE THEM 4 COMMANDMENTS of the LAW! They gave them the Law and as the Old Testament says they did not command them to become a Jew!

 

Again you wrote " a sect of Pharisees" demanded this. They were wrong and you do not know enough to be arguing these points.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 26, 2019, 2:42 p.m. No.5401054   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1069

>>5398420

You are arguing Satam's point for Satan. God did not give man commandments to show man cannot do them. He gave them commandments to give the world peace and love. You are destroying this action.

 

The Apostles NEVER said what you are alleging and I answered this below concerning Acts 15.

 

What you are showing there is how the Catholic religion works not the bible. And you as well as many of you use the word sin and have no clue what it is you are talking about anyway.

 

God gave man commandments to live by.

 

And Kosher is Jewish oral law which man never was asked to do only the Jews. Seders are only for Jews - man must keep the Passover.

 

You really need to go read the very TOP post of this entire posting. Then scroll through. You need to understand what the difference in a Jew and an Israelite is too. They are not the same thing.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 26, 2019, 8:13 p.m. No.5407679   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7349 >>5035

>>5401061

I keep MANY of the Laws of God. You know why? I have read them and keep them.

 

You are probably confusing the laws of the Jews with the laws of God. NO ONE can keep the laws of the Jews. Scroll up and read the anon who posted about the Sabbath Torah law vs. the Jews Sabbath Laws. You will see the difference.

 

Scroll up and read about the washing of hands. You will see God only had about 6 times to wash hands. The Jews have a hundred reasons to. People like you confuse Jew laws with God's Laws.

 

Since you have not red the Law why do you know so much about it? You know I have encountered trolls just like you before. You folks have the same shtick. You are trying to drive people AWAY from God and your anger shines through.

 

Go away.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 26, 2019, 8:16 p.m. No.5407758   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7367 >>3017

>>5401069

Again you are a smart ass troll trying to play mind tricks and confuse the scripture falsely. BEGONE you f'ing trolls.

 

You think you are smart?

 

And Satan said you could be like God by NOT following God rules for humans. Go read it and quit misleading people. God said do NOT eat off the tree. He said you could be as gods not the God.

 

You shills make me sick. Truly GTFO.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 28, 2019, 6:58 a.m. No.5433324   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6517

>>5417349

So what? Breaking the driving laws and getting a ticket breaks the drivng law. So what is your point? Don't practice the Sabbath? Don't keep the Holy Days because if you miss something you wasted all your practice of good?

 

What kind of stupid logic are you preaching? What is your point?

 

Also, sins have different penalties. They are not the same.

 

Bottom line…you have no clue what you are talking about.

Anonymous ID: abcfef Feb. 28, 2019, 7:03 a.m. No.5433376   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6520

>>5417948

Deeds of the law and these other verses mean ORAL JEWISH LAW. You do not understand Paul. For example how can Paul say this…

 

Gal 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 

 

and then how can Paul say this?…

 

Rom 2:13  For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

 

ARE YOU JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW (Rom 2:13) or are you wasting your time? (Gal 3:11). 

 

Paul is talking about 2 different sets of laws which you do not seem to get.

 

SHOULD YOU NOT KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS? They are Laws? Should you have sex with your mother or Father? They are not in the 10?

 

You do not understand Paul. As Jesus says…

 

Mat 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 

 

and as his brother James says…

 

Jas 2:26  For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. 

 

Now go run off and practice your fake religion but quit using the bible as you do not get it yet.

Anonymous ID: abcfef March 1, 2019, 11:32 a.m. No.5451032   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1081 >>1100 >>1112

>>5437322

And there is no J in Jesus either. Are you part of a cult?

 

Quit throwing stones. Even your Christianity of worshipping a Triune God is evil.

 

If you say Jehovah or Jesus I know what you mean. Quit being a lecture snob. Unless you really want to get technical and talk on a PHd level with me. Then you lose your ass.

 

Cut the crap.

Anonymous ID: abcfef March 1, 2019, 11:34 a.m. No.5451075   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1534

>>5436508

The problem is……Christians and most people cannot confess of their sins as they do not study the Laws of God. And without knowing them you cannot know what sin is.

 

Simple as that. NO CHRISTIAN HAS EVER confessed of bible sins. Unless he murdered or did one of the major 10 which is obvious, but not really as they break the Sabbath all the time anyway.

 

(and so it goes)…………"My people perish for lack of knowledge."

Anonymous ID: abcfef March 4, 2019, 2:56 p.m. No.5507248   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7384

>>5501857

"Does the devil have more power than men indwelled with the Holy Spirit?"

 

THE HOLY SPIRIT DOES NOT LIVE INSIDE ANYONE. The Devil is an angel and has way more power than any human can imagine.

 

"Sources of temptation"

 

Temptation to do what? Sin or not follow Christian programming of they say sin is?

 

"Lust"?

 

You do not understand biblical what lust means and are putting a Christian spin on it as you think what it might be. Looking at a woman with sexual intent is called NORMAL, not lust. It is Christianity that has changed what lust means.

 

"Can following the Law stop you from sinning?

 

  • OF COURSE IT DOES YOU FOOL You dumbasses have no idea what the word Law even means.

 

"Righteousness under JEWISH Law" is what Paul talks about. NO ONE CAN DO ALL THOSE LAWS is Jewish Law not Torah Law.

 

YOU ARE A FRESHMAN CHRISTIAN acting as though you know your stuff and you know nothing….or a Jews shill acting a a Christian to muck up the board.

 

I HOPE THE READERS OBSERVING THESE DISCOURSES CAN TELL THE TRUTH OF WHAT IS HAPPENING with posts like yours.