>>4145503 (pb)
Follow the logic:
If there is any pre-determinism, it is ALL predetermined. Can't possibly or logically have both predeterminism and freewill-freeplay in the movie. Predeterminism means a story has been conceived. Even one moment of freewill-freeplay would allow someone to kill their self or someone else "off script" and it would have a domino effect to the entire story.
We have freewill-freeplay as perfect spirits before the Big Bang: That's where/when we conceive & plan & predetermine the story. Once the story begins (Big Bang/Mortal Birth) the story/ride is locked and there is no freewill-freeplay.
The pain & horror? We planned every last bit of it; every moment. We can take it as Perfect Eternal Conscious Energy. We, as perfect spirits, are not harmed or changed, improved or diminished by ANYTHING or ANYONE ANYWHERE at ANY TIME.