Anonymous ID: 31dafa Feb. 13, 2019, 4:10 p.m. No.5161127   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1148

>>5159705 (pb)

>The main problem is "natural born citizen" was not clearly defined, and the 14th amendment screws it up even more.

 

Doesn't need to be defined. Common sense.

 

Basic premise of US constitution: Men are ruled by God, not other men (government). Government is a necessary evil wrt to borders and national defense.

 

Basic premise of citizenship wrt POTUS: God's law (natural law) is preferred over laws made by men. Children of the natives are natives. No law written by men is necessary to determine this. Any child born to two natives, from the founding of the US to the current day, will always be and have been a US citizen. Note that the founders except those persons who were residents of the US at the time of it's founding from the POTUS must be a natural born citizen rule. If this hadn't been done, they would have to have waited 35 years before any person became eligible. The fact that this is an exception shows that those excepted persons were not considered to be natural born US citizens, even though they may have been born on American colony soil. The colonies had been in existence for more than 200 years and most of those excepted had also been born of two American colony born parents. They were not considered natural born of the US because it had been determined at their birth, being native children born to English parents on English soil, if not by two English parents by virtue of laws made by Englishmen, that they were English citizens, thus they had to be naturalized into US citizenship.

 

It follows that any child born at any time in the US into a condition in which that child would also have been a US citizen at the time of the foundation of the US is natural born. A child born in Boston in 1992 to two parents also born in Boston would also have been a US citizen in 1892 and 1792. The citizenship of a child born to one foreign parent in 1992 may or may not be that of a US citizen in 1892 or 1792, dependent upon those laws made by men that were in force at that time of birth, thus they are not a US citizen by the law of nature. The acid test of any POTUS candidate, then, would be to determine if that candidate would always have been a US citizen since the foundation of the US; a US citizen by the law of nature.

 

This rationale follows from the desire of the founders to eliminate arranged marriages and childbirth by foreign entities with the goal of assuming power. Men could change citizenship law to enable that to occur. God's law, or natural law, could not be changed.