>>517202

> some form of RF mixer is required to achieve the effects described in the second to last paragraph

I think the author is implying that the mixing is done in the transmitting satellite and since most receiving equipment is DSP or SDR (both completely digital) these days the ELF signal would be undetected unless you knew to look for it.

It could be a workable scenario to produce the wanted 800mhz signal along with an otherwise undetected ELF signal.

The problem I see is that transmitting an ELF signal from above the ionosphere and expecting it to reach the surface is a bit far fetched.

>>517235

>ELF signal inside a VHF carrier.

do you mean modulate a VHF carrier with an ELF signal?

> I'm saying it doesn't magically come back out.

of course it doesn't

the author seemed to be implying the sum and difference signals were transmitted separately and as such would need two very different antennas to operate efficiently

>tfw an ELF antenna is MUCH bigger than a VHF antenna

All in all I think the post is BS

It is known that ELF radio waves can have effects on the human nervous system

It is unknown if any such devices are in use

Many of the patents are hypothetical in nature with no actual working models or demonstrations

>>517272

>IMHO the intent of the post (or wherever it originally came from) was classic propaganda 90% truth.

agreed smells like pseud-science propaganda

>>517284

no worries anon

I've been interested in herding trons since I read about Lord Kelvin's Thunderstorm half a century ago

>mfw it's been wild watching it go from tubes to nanoscale semiconductors

>>517298

>BAKER

please confirm you're still around

>mfw I'm not sure I want to trust a (1)

>>517278

>>517362

wolfmoon's tweet makes a very interesting point about feigned ignorance

It's very hard to prove what someone knows or intends in a court of law

>tfw hillybilly "I didn't know the C meant classified"

>>517368

happy to see you BAKER

I've seen too much late night fuckery over the weekend

The clowns are rampant

>tfw ever see one of those clown cars where a bazillion midget clowns come out?

>pic is wolfMoon's take on weaponized ignorance

>>517382

>Have you ever heard of this thing called an MRI? Do you understand what it can measure, test and explore?

yup, I know the device and it's actions fairly well, tell me what do you think the effective range of that type of system is?

can you use it on a subject outside the magnetic field?

why do they use superconductors to generate the magnetic field?

>However, keep attacking the digging

I don't want to rain on your parade but this is a forum for debate. When you present things as facts that are not facts then I and others will point it out.

I saw Q's posting about the [3] scientists working on SAT delivery of mkUltra trigger signals

I can think of several methods to deliver the trigger signals via modern cellular or satellite telephone systems.

I do not know if the trigger is an acoustic signal emitted by the device or a specifically patterned radio wave transmitted by the device]

I'm aware of recent research using magnetic fields to influence brain activity, it's all done with the machine and subject in very close proximity. I know of no equipment that is capable of delivering this type of field from a distance.

my 2¢

>>517435

>Where's your sauce? No sauce, no argument, no debate.

where is your sauce? I've stated facts of physics

>you obviously didn't read the linked article on the MRI.

are you trying to tell me that the article describes using the MRI on subjects outside the machine?

>>517437

robo calls have been picking up lately

I wouldn't worry about it

The trigger is only useful on a subject that has already been programmed.

On a hypothetical note

IF a cellphone had it's programming altered it could emit a radio wave patterned modulated with an ELF envelope to make the subject (who is holding the device next to his head) have certain feelings of unease, nausea, anxiety etc…

This is all well within the realm of possibility

The thing that stretches it a bit is doing the actual programming thru the device, not just the "trigger"

>>517451

>>517455 (cheKeKed)

the only signal from a satellite that modern cellular systems use is the GPS time signal for synchronization

The satellite telephone system is called IRIDIUM and it does not use cellular towers it uses Low Earth Orbit satellites to relay the signal

>>517463

>what about wifi? we call them cell phones but…

>

yes a modern smartphone can use cellular data, wifi data or bluetooth data streams and none of those data streams originate or is relayed thru a satellite

>they use satellites to fuck with phones guys.

not to my knowledge, if you have proof please provide it

> i gotta go to bed now.

G'night anon

>>517477 (cheKeKed)

>My bad on the military time conversion!

>

>>22:22 is 11:22 or 11/22

how about

22:22 = 10:22PM

>>517480

>activates an antenna of sorts?

I think it is quite possible that the IRIDIUM satellite system could be used to trigger implanted devices as well as read data from them, so could the cellular telephone system

keyword implanted device

>>517503

>So SAT relay must be something other than satellites.

good idea, got any examples?

I think it means satellite because I've seen no other plausible meanings

>>517524

>And yet, we have satellite communication with submerged submarines using ELF signals,

sauce?

the only ELF to submarine transmissions I'm aware of come from a land based transmitter in michigan

> All out of the same antenna.

an 800mhz signal and an 7hz signal???

show me the antenna that can do that

>>517537

>>517537

>It's called antenna matching. Hams do it all the time to use one antenna for many bands.

you are talking out yer ass anon

show me an antenna that can do what you claim

the wavelengths involved here are enormously mismatched and cannot be equalized with loading coils

that doesn't even begin to cover the power required to transmit these waves

from the ELF wiki

> The antenna length in Republic, Michigan, was approximately 52 kilometers (32 mi). The antenna is very inefficient. To drive it, a dedicated power plant seems to be required, although the power emitted as radiation is only a few Watts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines

>>517550

>www.dxengineering.com/search/part-type/antenna-tuners

Our antenna tuners will tune all frequencies from 1.8 to 30MHz

now give me one that does 8Hz to 800MHz

>>517556

read

>Electric Discharges, Waves and Impulses - Charles Proteus Steinmetz

and learn what displacement current is

>>517557

>Don't be a dumbass.

you cannot show me such a device because it's impossible to make it anon

>>517557

>Don't be a dumbass. Something like that is easy to make, but illegal to use without the proper license.

>

>Idiot.

seriously anon, if all you have is name calling then I think I've more than proven my point.

you cannot show me a device to cause a single antenna to be efficient transmitting both frequencies

800MHz

8Hz

one has a wavelength of over 50 miles while the other is only a single foot long…

>>517576

>The only thing you've proved in this bread is that you provide no evidence

you refute the following facts?

800MHz

8Hz

one has a wavelength of over 50 miles while the other is only a single foot long…

and no single antenna in existence will transmit both of those two frequencies efficiently

>>517575

>VFO's are cool like that. Idiot.

variable frequency oscillators…

I didn't realize they were antennae