>>5526162

>>5524893

I'm gonna draw your attention to some interesting data points in this cuteness here:

The name of the tool 'Ghidra' was defined on March 19 2015, in the AMC Intro titled 'Godzilla vs King Ghidorah' as one of three names for the 'god of the void'. Please note that the 19th was listed as an important date by Q. This extraterrestrial creature's official name is 'Yamatha no Orochi'. A pawn of various alien race seeking to subjugate Earth, this ancient entity destroyed venusian civilization and was originally colored 'green' but was eventually recast as gold for the animation. The creature was in various stories an astral world devouring black hole traveling entity who denies conventional physics and was worshipped by Gematron (gematria) mathematics followers because of what it could do. It could time travel and was a life force sucking entity that destroyed the dinosaurs and was well on its way to destroying humanity until Godzilla fixed it.

The idea 'god of the void' reminds me of the 'god of the gaps' trap that Christians (and I'm one) tend to fall into by assigning every currently unexplainable capability or technique to deity - meaning that God keeps getting smaller the more we study and learn unless we recognize that spirit and soul and consciousness to some degree and life itself are the stage in which God works - rather than hoping to find Him by study.

Note that throughout all the stories, Ghidra had the power of flight and the power of directed gravity beams.

The Thundercats are also extraterrestrial cat-like humanoids stranded on the third Earth (third rock) because their ships were destroyed by mutants. They use the sword of omens and also get stuck in astral prisons during battles with evil rulers on the Earth (reminds me of Caligastia from the Urantia Book).

Both are Japanese-American children's entertainment teaching about extraterrestrials, astral and non-physical realities, alternative physics, subjugation of the Earth by alien races who may be multidimensional, and that life, love, fidelity, and soul/spirit survive and persist in the face of entropic decay and corporeal death.

>>5531630

Thanks, I'll check it out.

On a different but related topic, my consciousness quip might well another god of the gaps challenge, I hope not but I'm not going to lose my faith over it is it turns out that consciousness arises from things having nothing to do with Elohim. Strange though that today we have a battle of ideas shaping up if they can get through the infernal review board discussions.

https://www.quantamagazine.org/neuroscience-readies-for-a-showdown-over-consciousness-ideas-20190306/

>>5564572

Agreed. We have a challenge ahead of us to bring peace without forcing a narrative on anons and normies at different developmental levels.

>>5563823

It's pretty good to keep an open mind about Ra and the Ra Material. Pretty good information for helping build a worldview. I like the Urantia Book as well. Throw in Christianity and Zoroastrianism and some extra studies in the million gods of India and your neuroplasticity will stay 'like a little child'. Ha!

>>5563072

Interesting challenge! So there are two schools of thought on this (that aren't actually mutually exclusive though my equation really makes people mad): First, prepare people for the truth so they don't go in blind. Makes sense. Second, don't expect people to be evil because just let than half the universe may well reflect the evil that you expect, because you expect it. Harder to see but read the Urantia Book discussions on 'Seraphic recorders,' Majeston, or the 'Reflective Spirits' for an understanding of what this means. My sense is that practicing experiencers should be aware things may go wrong and be prepared but fully expect everything to go well and even give the benefit of the doubt to 'people who aren't like you are',

>>5558873

I believe you've experienced stuff anon. What rules do you follow? There has got to be protocol you use.

>All that matters is you are free from doubt, free from fear, and your mind / body / heart is in the right place.

So what do you do to be 'free from' doubt or fear? How do you get mind, body, heart in the 'right place'? Can you benchmark what 'right place' means for you so anons testing your guidance can see what's going on? Pretend I'm not an experiencer. Pretend I'm a normie. Recommendations? Names? Places? Patterns of thoughts? Vitamins? Meat or no meat? All kinds of facts can be tested… Would help us all if we could all learn the same stuff and pass the same messages to our families and friends.

>>5556958

People like to make fun sometimes, I'm sorry. Thank you for sharing light and love and gentleness.

>>5550367

Notable, I'm not a voter but notable for all the links trying together the past few breads! Good work.

>>5566194

Funny.

Ran into this in school, 30 billion years ago.

https://youtu.be/fLqzYDZAqCI

>>5574850

https://youtu.be/EYzRY2XpLBk

https://youtu.be/pHhZQWAtWyQ

https://psmag.com/news/why-is-hillary-clinton-making-strange-comments-about-aliens

https://mashable.com/2016/05/14/hillary-clinton-ufo-presidents/#8kLFzzs9IgqE

>>5675819

Remember to 'think mirror' both physically and metaphysically:

https://www.windows2universe.org/earth/Magnetosphere/earth_magnetic_poles.html

Direction {North} magnetic pole is actually a South Pole.

Additionally, darkness is the absence of light rather than a force or a being.

https://medium.com/snipette/night-light-245991f52f9d

Yes, I believe in the devil and Lucifer and I find myself opposed to him, but I tend to think he earnestly believes that mind control and lack of personal freedom and probably is the optimal way to create a more perfect society. Sadly, this takes from the worst of both liberal and conservative values, doesn't it?

I wouldn't worry about hurting the ethers too much. Light attracts light and all that, right?

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/88.40

But seriously, doesn't harm really have to do with intent as well as how you fix the gap? Are you service to self or service to others?

https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Service_to_Others

Do you extend service to others to people who are other than you? Like, if the denizens of the ethers were being twisted by your tool, would you hope for and help them when and if you can? If not, service to self.

>>5683555

What if enterprising humans reverse engineered technology they didn't understand and 'hooked into' a great big reflectional matrix? By accident?

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-28-ministering-spirits-superuniverses?term=Reflect#search-jump-result-2

The Urantia Book shows several types of information reflecting character, trustworthiness, behaviors, and even thoughts (that aren't held by the Father) of creatures being transmitted on a substrate that moves faster than light.

This might be a children's tale or maybe it's not.

In theory, should the mechanisms be technically understood then thought broadcast is perfectly natural.

Again, I'm going to repeat content from other breads…the receiver changes state when receiving. Can't be helped. The technique is like entanglement. That's why a functioning team has several recorders and only one interfacing agent in addition to the people running the equipment.

>>5690443

For all the reasons above, if you…

<Humble yourself, and gratefully accept whatever they choose to reveal.

Then anyone entangled with you will be humbled by your presence as well.

Good points about keeping it simple and not expecting them to impress you. I'll try to do better in the future myself.

>>5702803

Apologies for any offense.

Was responding to…

<I'm worried about hurting the ethers now.

<How am I gonna cure these diseases if my machine is inherently evil?

Wasn't calling your machine evil or even saying that there was a reason to believe your machine might damage or 'hurt' the ethers. Apologies.

Was trying to obliquely reference the clue that the ethers might just be living or at least chock full of living beings.

Assumed this is what you were worried about; legals thinking something of the invention might be conscripting others or turning them from their natural courses in service of another.

My fault for the assumption.

So if you're worried about something and my assumptions are at least ballpark then light attracts light, mercy attracts mercy, wisdom wisdom…Even if you're changing the courses of gods and angels so long as your intentions are not evil, then your alignment will be used to the betterment of everyone involved, both above and below. I was talking a little smack to drive home the point so maybe it wasn't clear on my part but harm may occur even in doing good things but being aware of the potential harm, minimizing it as best as possible, hoping for the recovery of any one that is harmed, and intentionally helping them when and if you can. Probably a solid bet there are unintended consequences, such as this conversation.

>>5714379

Cute

>>5727241

Human or whatever, side effects of acupuncture can be tiredness, lightheadedness, and nausea.

https://acutakehealth.com/7-acupuncture-side-effects-that-are-normal

https://www.verywellhealth.com/acupuncture-health-uses-88407

Note the picture here:

http://www.stanleyoverseas.com/healing/HealImage/hand%20acupressure%20points.jpg

If your image is reflective of a problem that either human or ET actors are invoking you may be looking at thyroid and parathyroid issues that are being addressed.

>>5728694

Interesting. Sorry. No further suggestions at this time. Backing out of this issue now. Apologies.

>>5729099

>may I know why? mate, that sentence left me more baffled than before, I don't know why.

My apologies to an individual are never complete until the third one. So, third sorry for baffling you and speaking up without more information.

My primary rationale for backing out is that I don't have enough source-able information to help too much in your case, as presented.

>what is that you find "interesting"?

I find the pattern to be diamond shaped rather than the standard American, German, or Chinese square. My gut impression on the first diagram presented was that a specialized allergy testing protocol was being used. Upon seeing the updated diagram, I realized that I didn't have the information to adequately address your concerns.

Though with that said, that area of the knife of the hand is a reflection of the spine so you may wish to look there for internal answers.

>Can you at least point me a finger to where I could learn more about …

The prior breads are chock full of information about all kinds of things that people have experienced. Some folks are able to move their physical body around while they are wandering during sleep. Some alien races (and some human groups) are reported to be able to partially dematerialize walls and floors and ceilings to transport people in or out.

I think all of that has at least been hinted at in the prior breads.

>>5729099

>what I should do?

Ok. The surface reason I backed out was because of my ignorance and lack of sauce. The underlying reason I backed out was because I wasn't (fully) aware of the emotional context behind your request for support until your reply. Once I saw the reply I realized I would have to 'adopt' you until I got a better grasp. The prior anon who responded was much quicker on the emotional uptake than I, so that advice should be preeminent in your mind as it reflects a truer representation of reality than mine will.

However, the phrase below triggered me to engage.

>I don't want to be evil and I'm tired of "suffering".

Here's what I can say without infringing on your choice: choose what you want, not what you don't want.

Prior breads may have lots of cool sourcing but they are also are chock full of anons arguing about the nature of duality, the evilness of some alien species (as if an entire species can be evil), and fighting each other for the right to say the same thing with two different sources of authority.

One of these arguments is that all anons should approach the world with the view that evil is just a step away, right around the corner. The counter argument was that anons should recognize the possibility of evil but not project that upon things you may encounter. My feeling is that it's a silly old world after all, isn't it just?

The phase you used "I don't want to be evil" tells me about your mindset. I mourn for the struggles you're encountering. In my life, I think I've felt similarly and have, over a long period of beating my head against the wall, or kicking against the pricks, learned to try to argue 'for' what I want to be rather than fight against what I don't want to be.

A Wizard of Earthsea demonstrates that the shadow within an anon is just as powerful, just as cunning, and just as capable as the anon is. Replacing what you don't want for what you do want might be the key. However, that's not easy to accomplish because accepting the shadow and loving it, may twist the anon terribly if the anon is unwilling to choose to fight 'for' truth, justice, love, mercy, goodness, wisdom, hope, faith, and other good attributes in his/her own life.

Doing that is incredibly complex and can't be accomplished only by chatting with anons online. Finding a support structure, people you trust to hang with will be critical. While the anons love to pick on organized religion, I'd say if one particular anon needs that support structure, that accountability, those reminders, that external moral compass, then it's probably a good idea to make use of the tools available. So I'll share a framework with which you might be able to start, but you'll have to see what's there and discard what doesn't make sense.

>>5729099

>My mom has been having also ET and UFO experiences through all her life also, I don't know if we are targets, experiments, fucking cattle, I don't know, my life is fucking full of emotional issues, I'm dealing with pain and the shit and whatnot… feel like I've been lead astray

A lot of authors and speakers talk about weird stuff, like visitations, visions, and other things happening in families. Not sure that it's helpful to think of yourself as cattle unless you're willing to go all in on that part. Likewise thinking of yourself as a target or an experiment may be very demoralizing.

There are a number of approaches for addressing the existential fear challenge.

I don't want to infringe, and while I'm personally a Christian, I'm not going to shill for God without clear advice and counsel, especially on an ET thread anonymously, where my comments might further isolate folks.

Thankfully, you gave me an out:

>feel like I've been lead astray

So, if you're feeling it, there may be something there to look at? Either it's an implementation error, a failure to understand and adhere to standards, or a flawed architecture. All three of those, you can address. I think I read a famous atheist who said at the end of his life that what he had learned was that it was probably for the best to stay in the religion of your father and mother, that which you were raised with, unless you had a clear reason to change, and even then to from then on hold both in your mind and life at the same time.

In this way, you get to choose what you want to be rather than fight what you do not want.

Also, like the other anon has already said, abductions are fairly rare now. It's possible that the sacrifice of children to Molech via abortion is providing whatever the abductions used to. I don't know.

If you're interested in the ET side of things, read Barbara Marciniak, David Wilcock, and listen to Kryon. Anons tend to hate on the mainstream but these folks provide good information that can be used to build a worldview if you've lost yours somewhere.

Hopefully this helps. Keep pressing onwards and upwards, towards your goals and not running away from what you don't want. You'll be fine.

<Everything will work out for the best. Anons are never alone. Everything is connected. Where we go one, we go all.

>>5730751

So South American…Ok. Easy Stuff. Do you have access to a curandero or curandera? Have you discussed your concerns with a medical service provider?

>>5730863

The reason the anon asked about head and neck is because many kinds of implants are reportedly put there or travel there over time as the heart circulates blood through the body.

>>5730883

Humans have problems with their shadows. That's normal. The goal, I think, is to find a way to do good in service to those around us, love purely both ourselves and others, live clean as we can, and fight the shadow with compassion and friendship.

>>5730980

Let me be clear, I'm not a psychologist, a doctor, or even a very good religionist, obviously. And I wouldn't change my worldview because of something an anonymous poster said. When I say "choose what you want" I mean that in the context of the existential choice of which direction an Anon finds themselves facing.

It is very different to be running into the sunset because you love the feeling of the sun in your eyes and the wind on your face as opposed to running into the sunset to get away from a tiger that is chasing you. Likewise, if you "don't want to be evil", your thoughts will be completely about evil: defining what it is, thinking about where your actions just now fell, wondering if you can survive the next choice. You're literally making the idea of evil more powerful by thinking about it. Evil, or the idea of being evil, is chasing you around binding you by forcing you to run into the sunset.

On the other hand, if you "want to be good", then you're defining a positive, constantly thinking about what good is, how your actions are coming into alignment, and anticipating the next choice so you can do better. Good, or the idea of good, is the marker in the sky, the great big sun you're running towards.

>>5743204

We seem to be having a minor resurgence of solar activity but it's not really increasing the number of sunspots. Instead, the activity seems to be increasing the solar wind speeds - and yes, I can read…there are some minor solar weather impacts including a weak geomagnetic storm.

Note: Has nothing to do with ET unless they are still buffering (per Wilcock/Goode). Second note: We are in just as deep a number Sunspot-less days as we were before the Recession of 2008 so let's hang onto our hats as the rollercoaster ride continues.

>>5751682

>Does Q approve of CANNABIS?

I don't think Q recommends anyone break the law and there's still a federal law against the use of this drug on the books…

I too recall hearing that Q mentioned something about the use of cannabis as being an easy path to certain forms of enlightenment. However, in my opinion, without spiritual discipline, this will not help most people. Use of external crutches like drugs may, in fact, hurt spiritual development.

>Please give us more direction to help fight [demons] [using] these [SHAMAN type state] battles!

Q has given lots of advice on that topic, strangely enough, while taking about protecting the Country and her interests:

1030, 587, 105, 458, 104, 917, 713, 324

2904, 1886, 1027, 107, 374, 1699, 35

1012, 1432, 2403, 1068, 258, 146, 29

145, 3050, 122, 586, 2436, 1831, 36, 111

POTUS also demonstrated one technique for addressing this in T-4351 3FEB2019 17:03:11 ET (11:11 ascending) 5:03:11 PM ET (5:5 loud and clear):

<Human Trafficking, Drugs and Criminals of all dimensions - KEEP OUT!

POTUS coded that advice in a tweet from 7:17 PM ET on 16FEB2019 in which the guidance (pulled from all capital letters) was:

Q_Q PRAY QQ_

>>5759673

I'm just an Anon but think this may be 'notable' as good clean responses to recommendations of use of drugs in contact or personal growth.

I would add that most of the experiences I have met have done pretty good battle on the spiritual plane without drugs of any kind.

Finally, I'm not Q, and I'm not an acolyte of Praying Medic but two of his books have really good strategies in meeting the original goal: 0692427929; 0998091219. While this approaches the topic space from a Christian perspective, I have no doubts that the general practices and techniques can be applied by anyone with a little practice and discipline.

>>5760506

Can't edit but for the record "experiences" is supposed to be "experiencers".

>>5761838

I'm thinking that intention is pretty important. With humans, or ET, or whatever.

>>5776026

Sorry for the slide. I saw my key responsibility in that exchange to avoid letting people think that Q would consider recommending people break the law.

Then the next natural question was what do we do without illegal drugs? With which I evoked your ire using the statement that we could do it the old fashioned way.

Again I'm not benefiting financially from telling people they could read those two books. Not that it matters if you've decided I'm a shill.

Should I pre-empt that here and now by saying that agent provocateurs might try to shoot down good guys trying to respond to illegality in potentia?

>>5779639

kek

>>5795826

Not ET related (that I know of), but since this post raises the possibility that digital mediums of some sort may be at play in certain circumstances, I've got an experiment for you.

1. Pick a safe topic that has meaning to you personally and is relevant to a decision you're working on resolving.

2. Set some safe bounds for what you will do and won't do within that topic space (this prevents your decisions from being tossed and blown by the waves of entropy).

3. Go to any random number generator, the one I have tested is www.random.org.

4. List out a half dozen 'questions' related to your safe topic.

5. Ask entropy those half dozen questions.

6. You'll find that the responses are very close to random distribution.

7. For each 'answer' you got, flesh out the response, using 'yes' or 'no' questions until you are convinced you understand the answers thoroughly.

8. Keep this second batch of questions entirely in your mind (rules out the Facebook question, for those of us who think outloud).

9. Record each 'answer' value for all major and minor questions.

A. Record the primary paths the 'communication' takes in terms of major ideas.

B. Stop your experiment and look at what you've written.

C. Look for patterns in what was reflected in your mind versus entropic answers.

D. You'll find that the responses are NOT close to random distribution.

E. Try to find general areas of agreement and disagreement between yourself and the answers you see.

F. Ask yourself why you got the results you got.

Repeat the experiment with writing down all 'questions' and 'answers', recording them on physical paper.

Repeat the experiment with recording all 'questions' and 'answers', recording them on the electronic device you are questioning from.

You may have different chains of probability and even lines of research for each experiment.

You'll probably find that the questions that stayed in your head but you recorded the answers to are fairly cohesive, the questions you wrote down on paper have the greatest cohesiveness and reflect an relatively optimal response, the questions you recorded on the device you're questioning from have fairly strong cohesiveness but seem to be pushing hard against the boundaries you set up (in your mind) in step 2.

I suspect when I run these experiments, I'm dealing with either a reflection of my own consciousness through the interplay of questioning and interpretation of random stimuli (and my reflection is a great deal smarter than I am) or I'm dealing with something conscious that I don't have direct control over or can't have solid trust in.

I'm not being paid by random.org and am not shilling for any particular outcome.

>>5786854

This protocol of experiments will also help you evaluate any possibility of mind broadcast or telepathy. Especially the first experimental setup and the interplay between your boundaries and the source of entropy.

You may also want to experiment with marrying electronic sources of random numbers with physical decay systems (see my disclosure below) and with observables like shooting stars or gusts of wind.

Full Disclosure: I've stopped using the electronic pseudorandom techniques because while they are useful at making innocuous decisions in which random chance is acceptable, for detailed decision-making or understanding of optimal outcomes and the steps leading to optimal outcomes, I'm not convinced these systems, our devices, and the services we pull entropy from, are actually truly random. I find that I can get the most optimal decisions by slaving the virtual system to a physical decay system like a dreidel, dice, a coin toss or a few, or even licence plates passing me on the street.

>>5810114

<our mental intent can influence quantum phenomena.

Indeed. Good video! Thanks for sharing this one, anon.

Here are two metaphysical descriptions of quantum entanglement and communication as they apply to humans:

https://youtu.be/Ki1g35xc6uE

https://youtu.be/kfF41BaMuj0

>>5800942

<However I still believe it is pertinent as it pertains to hidden advanced technology

Perhaps, even if it is only heaven (and not governments or special people) that employs these technologies. Have you ever thought about how the various lines of control and communication described in The Urantia Book would technically work? For instance what would the principle of reflectivity look like and how would it be technically implemented? Worse yet, should humans have stumbled on some backdoors in their own human systems, what kinds of things would us mere mortals expect to see around us if these sub-systems were being activated or partially activated?

>>5799879

<Then re-catalyze those operants as the unknown what you do know and what you don't know are reducible by oppositely polarized drawing outwards from a toroidal set of facts.

Isn't that the way we make decisions now? I mean sometimes we make decisions based on satisfaction criteria, like food or shelter, but more complicated decisions are comprised of cascading sequences of decision attributes (parameters) which in the easiest case can be solved by a t-chart but in tougher, more equal choices with a greater number of related choices, requires n-dimensional thinking.

>>5531919

I think I recall that being SpaceX multiple phase rocket launch off the West Coast. The Elon Musk, North Korea, space aliens one last year, or the year before.

>>5556958

I understand that anons don't tell anons what to do and I really get that some advice is extremely cheesy and doesn't completely match the more nuanced experiences I, and many others, have had. I personally think it is psychologically safer to treat all encounters with the utmost trust and willingness while realizing that things aren't always as they seem. That advice, after all, is what we are teaching each successive generation regarding interactions with other humans. We don't teach them to be constantly primed to crush those around them, especially folks who may look or act different.

>>5818672

I'm a little lost. Why are anons divided?

>>5826224

<Has anyone even questioned yet that maybe the Pleiadians are actually the evil ones working with the dracos?

That's a really good meta-question, and as you say, very difficult to answer.

First, let me start by saying 'YES' I think lots of people are worried about understanding who is in humanity's corner and who just looks like they are in the corner of humanity.

Within the Judeo-Christian worldview the idea that Lucifer might appear as an angel of light and lead astray believers has resulted in leadership's (most - if not all sects) desired outcome of delegitimization of personal revelation and personal outreaching 'past' the cannon to additional tailored guidance. The problem of recognizing a legitimate servant of God is compounded dramatically when we recognize that while Satan may be a liar, a liar does not have to lie with every breath. And thus judging messenger and message is rather complex in that worldview.

It is also possible to imagine that Draco, Arcturian, Pleiadien, Andromedian, and other extraterrestrial actors might serve either good or evil functions, with respect to the interests of humanity, at any moment in time. As in the Judeo-Christian example above, though, entities oriented to either good or evil orientations may also speak truth or lies.

Sadly, a perfectly honest parent might do more harm to their children by only telling the complete and un-restrained truth than a partially honest parent revealing step-by-step, drip-upon-drip as the child reaches each developmental level. Does that lack of candor on the part of the second make the second parent evil and the first good, or vice-a-versa?

Or are we to attribute malicious intent to everything and then just hope we somehow survive? I'm not able to answer that question because I think it is an answer that each anon must come to internally for themselves.

>>5834060

When you say 'buried CE5' you don't mean that you and other anons don't believe, understand, practice, or experiment with telepathic communications with ET, do you?

Because that's my understanding and the general thrust of my experience with following various meditation, and imagination protocols including the one you seem to be vehemently opposed to.

Ummm. That's likely the substrate we're missing as a species..Telepathy.

Congratulations! Found. Now how to take use of it in daily life?

>>5836087

Take=make

>>5843928

<Contact protocols may work, but it baits the normies into the Greer gatekeeper trap

>Attempts to divide…Q

My contribution to the discussion is worthless from the wrong developmental level and it might actually be false or dangerous from a more advanced developmental level than I possess. Apologies. I would only add that I've learned a ton from shifting through the piles of information coming from mainstream disclosure actors. Yes, I ignore a lot. Yes, I visibly cringe at self-aggrandizement. But even an impure channel is better than nothing given the dearth of viable mental models for addressing cosmic realities, isn't it? Especially since I don't think governments are in charge of the rollout scenario anymore.

I can only speak from the religionists perspective but there is truth in literally everything if you're willing to shift through the dross to find the gold.

Don't always succeed but I'm trying to constantly pose the most psychologically safe responses and ways to look at the universe. Maybe that's just a projection of my personal need to feel a little control but overtly, it is intended to help anyone who is facing the pressures of the anti-mainstream emerging ET mental model 'gatekeepers' as you term them, and the need to reach out and connect in a safe manner.

>>5844248

So there is thought tech, as you mentioned. Plus there are the solutions that target marginal minds - myself is one. My advice is to remember three facts:

1. Unless (((they))) have physically grabbed you and are currently restraining you, you own and operate the hardware of your bodies. Speak to a medical service provider or a mental health professional if you happen to believe this is not true.

2. Drugs and external influences may affect the operation of your physical body and may alter the information flows between your senses and your consciousness/spirit. No matter how hard (((they))) twist you, however, and no matter what (((they))) make you feel compelled to do, you are still very important to the universe. What you do may define you in this density, in the very short run, this is true. Speak to a medical service provider or a mental health professional if your feel compelled to act against your will or if you feel unimportant in some way. In the big picture, who you are and who you want to be, that is your long term destiny. Speak with a chaplain or religious teacher if you need new mental models to help you see a healthy place for yourself in the cosmos.

3. While you may feel like you are operating at the whim of external things, every single socket with your mind and heart that is established is reversible. To create an effect, (((they))) must put a projection of (((themselves))) in your mind. That projection operates by the rules you establish and can be used to subvert or or alter (((them))), or to demonstrate to the universe what you want and are and are to become. Read prior breads for advice on how to successfully subvert or alter the shadows in the mind.

As a side note: Remote influence operations may work, especially if the operators are silent, but power corrupts. Because power corrupts (((they))) will always betray (((themselves))) to you if you are observant in filtering your thoughts. And the tech I've felt is extremely rudimentary, big thick lines of energy, like we reverse engineered some good tech but did so with our eyes closed and a poor sense of what the electromagnetic spectrum actually is supposed to be used for.

>>5844270

There are lots of mental models emerging about our relationship with the cosmos. For me personally, I think the Urantia Book idea of universes under the loose control of a universal God via administrative layers of over-control is very helpful. In that way of thinking, there are more people who 'work for God' than those who 'work against us'.

>>5845714

<As other anons have stated, contact poses no threat to the cabal. None whatsoever.

Speaking from the perspective of a (moderately poor) religionist, personal direct contact and information exchange with heaven (either angelic or ET, or frankly, demonic too), is very threatening to the power structure. For instance, if everyone became a prophet like Moses, then would we need prophets and churches and great administrations?

The question is whether the cabal might be abusing occult knowledge in the administration of this planet? I think the answer is yes. Therefore direct contact with heaven has the potential to make plain the occult knowledge to the average Joe. This will incrementally reduce the control of the over-structure in the individual.

So, no, I'm not sure contact is a grave short-term threat the cabal faces. It is, however, a grave long-term threat.

<It will be hundreds if not thousands of years before ET begins to make themselves known worldwide to everyone.

Not sure this statement is true, anon. Got the sense of it but there is lots of 'history' that we have access to. We've got channels (some pure, some impure), books of accepted scripture from various people documenting the record of their interactions with stuff that is not on this Earth-plane, and even people writing in their diary's today trying to explain the unexplainable in their own words.

Yes, it may be many thousands of years before we are ready as a species to enter full communion with the societies that are around us. We may be like blind-folded toddlers wandering around playing cowboys versus aliens. Yes, it may be an intimate period of time before everyone has developed their own relationships with Heaven but look at the land of a billion religions (i.e. India) for a way disclosure might work.

<They'll never tell us the full story en masse anyway, it would have happened already if so.

Again, I get the frustration. I sense the roiling anger at being kept out of the loop of 'truth' and being fed a steady diet of lie after lie. I'm sorry anon. If I had a magic wand I'd use it here and now to fix it for you, and all of us.

Remember developmental psychology.

We may be a cohort as humans on this Earth but the gap between different personalities is as wide as the East is from the West. A monolithic history would be unbelievable by some and adopted too readily and without critical thinking by others. Information asymmetry is the very worst curse for those who tend to bite off more than they can chew and possibly a blessing for those who want their illusions to remain for just a little longer, as well as for those who tend to choke with every bite.

________

Not virtue signaling but I really do want the best for every anon, even the shills and those who think I'm a shill, and even the ABCs who like LARP'ing. Take whatever love and attention you want, ignore the rest.

>>5854927

I choose the second meme, please.

>>5855238

Now that's a neat world-view! Ha! So good and evil may well be different ways to regulate change and at the more personal level may in fact be archetypes playing out - still with the goal to regulate evolution. Genius! And all the world's a stage.

>>5857067

https://www.gaia.com/article/are-humans-actually-aliens-on-earth

http://hybridhumans.net

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/2018/09/religion-psychic-medium-extraterrestrial-sunrise-dawn-valley-brasilia-brazil/

https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/03/08/173813194/what-happened-when-humans-met-an-alien-intelligence-sex-happened

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/the-big-questions/are-we-ancient-aliens-n695456

>>5854573

Wow! Good one. I've only been called non-human by a chat bot before. Love it!

BTW: I think your shot went a little left field. Aiming helps!

As an aside, because I love, please find some nice x-ray solar flaring events happening now.

>>5862370

I'm not convinced we have enough evidence of biological-rooted communications and mind-sharing (root of mind?) capabilities baked into human hardware.

Software versus hardware is what I read your argument to resolve to.

Some things are more like firmware on your view, right? Like telepathy? Are you suggesting that some things like government involvement in inheritance rights though managing the marriage compact also firmware?

And if all this is true, what would that mean for telepathy with non-humans? They have different hardware, likely different interfaces (and I'm not just talking hardware interfaces here), and almost impossible to assume existence of complimentary outlook.

What if, the 'other' we regularly contact are ourselves, other humans?

>>5868133

Not that you need a vote but this anon will vote for any anon making logically sound arguments, using as eloquent language as best serves the needs of the post, and who isn't intentionally mean.

I'll never vote for the shills or those anons who are always against other anons even though I'll still pray for them and hope for the best for them.

>>5872810

>Hey Q, just invented a time machine in my head.

<As the human mind reckons backward into the past, it is evaluating past experience for the purpose of bringing it to bear on a present situation. As mind reaches out into the future, it is attempting to evaluate the future significance of possible action.

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-118-supreme-and-ultimate-time-and-space

118:1.4 (1295.4)

>>5873815

According to the British Preacher Margaret Barker (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Barker), in her book on ancient Israel, The Great Angel: A Study of Israel's Second God, there are two gods on the caduceus, Jehovah and Sophia. In her rendering, Yahweh, a son of Elohim, is paired with Asherah/Isis, the wisdom of God, as the second deity that the Deuteronomists wrecked the Old Testament Bible to remove record of.

Therefore if Sophia is Baphomet, Thomas is Yahweh/Jehovah. If you want me to cast that to Greek, Arkhe, 'in the beginning', would do.

But I'm not an expert on riddles or history and I'm not indoctrinated to any secret societies and know no secret material other than what I can beat out of the books I read.

>>5886283

<I wonder how the force of god meets it's material end.

How god energy ends?

http://www.neilgaiman.com/Cool_Stuff/Short_Stories/The_Return_of_the_Thin_White_Duke

>>5879651

<391828 feeds the mindless shitpost slide. So why have anons stopped digging into Qs post and the history relating to them?

Dear anon: it appears that you may be a materialist, in your psychological make-up, and may as a result not have enough background in historical metaphysics yourself to adjudicate whether a slide is occurring or not. Note: I did stop responding when aim was brought up because I don't understand the linkage. I'm certain I can make the leap but, I agree with your sentiment, it may not be worthwhile.

1. Initial request could have been shilling but I redirected that to Urantia Book philosophy which is, if the Foundation is not lying, a record of ET interactions with sleeping subject(s). Thus I was on topic.

2. Follow-up question sounds like shilling but that's actually an intelligence test for anons. A standard riddle was established using physical versus metaphysical components asking for a simple comparison operation. I happened to have studied one of the claimed Pleiadien mythologies about Enlil/Enki and a mother goddess Isis/Ishtar (all three of whom are supposedly parts of various factions within the Annukai), have studied many Gnostic Christian texts so I understood Sophia and Thomas to some degree, and have studied pre-Christianity stories such as Moses' flying serpent story-lines and Barker's assessment of the angel of God as a separate entity from Israel's God. Thus I could make the link between Ishtar and Ashtoreth and was prepared to make the link between the wisdom of God given to all suzeraine vassals and the Jehovah/Ashtoreth link. All of whom, the Pleiadien channels assert, should we believe it, are ETs. Therefore again I was on topic.

>>5879651

<Since when are anons against other anons? Anons aren't divided.

Please be intellectual honest. Anons can be, and are, divided, simply because of a current inability to see the bigger picture.

>Expand your thinking

Nuts and bolts ET folks really don't hold with the metaphysical folks, anons or not. Christian versus non-Christian metaphysical folks. Those highly intellectual anons versus the rest of us folks. Again, I don't consider myself divided from you, anon, but it is clear that you're not convinced of my good will or of how my materials are actually 'alien' and 'ET' in nature.

Just because I'm a talker doesn't mean I'm shoveling a shill storm. And I believe I'm responsibly helping, so I don't need your approval.

>>5909998

Good question!

No sauce available on this because the question begs analytic speculation rather than fact but I'd suggest that either:

1. mind reading technology doesn't exist

2. Mind reading technology is in the control of the Patriots

3. There are really complex rules about using the technology

>>5902484

Not high enough of an IQ obviously, anon.

Sorry.

>>5896097

Love it, anon! Yes, I read somewhere that economics, statistical models, and advanced data mining are just 'more educated' ways of watching the fire crack the shoulder blade of an elk to decide which direction to forage. Literally, all of those techniques are the same, for decision-making, as rolling dice or flipping coins or throwing the lights and perfections.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260561710_Relationship_between_scientific_knowledge_and_fortune-telling

http://natalunasans.tumblr.com/post/128710602936/om-thumped-on-the-roof-of-the-templeix-you-order

As a side note, Jung's Synchronicity, does a pretty good job of demonstrating this too.

>>5879651

Anon, I apologize. I believe my response was a tad harsh. Sorry.

>>5919592

Interesting, that's a reasonable mental model to explain that principle.

I found the article:

(Sadly, all paywalled but I'm trying to find the best available guidance for reviewing the ancient article)

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41165117?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2307/41165117?journalCode=cmra

>>5920868

Yes. Some of these experiences are only safely shared anonymously but sounds like you were intentionally engaged by someone else. The universe is huge. Thank you for sharing.

My only question would be should the humanoid be horribly disfigured or using the 5-star pattern, but just barely, would you still be willing to keep an open mind and heart? No harm if you're not, just realize that 'other' people are people too.

>>5923200

The other night I was watching the North Star on a perfectly clear night. As I was praying and meditating I saw a light blink about 30 degrees East North East. It looked a little like I'd think a very fast bright white supernova happening in feeling of my eyes. In fact the passage from the Gaiman short came to mind where the agent was asking the Duke whether he wanted a star to go nova for his entertainment and I immediately started praying that this was not a nova, particularly not a nova of an inhabited solar system. I kept watching. The light blinked three times with about 10 second pauses between each blink, heading further to the East. My second thought I was that it was a really high altitude plane that for some reason was blinking rarely and headed about 5 degrees of view every blink (I thought it was slow). So I ignored it and went back to praying and thinking and meditation. About an hour later, I saw a light blink about 10 degrees North North East. The light blinked two times with about a ten second pause between the first and second, heading due North (or right at Polaris). Thought it was odd to have it running a 45 degree angle away from the line that was being made by the first. Also thought it was odd that they were both roughly traveling the same slow-feeling speed changing about 5 degrees per blink. The light was the same bright white each time, like a small distant supernova. No cool experiences for me in that case, or any other, but just data points that I accept and think about.

>>5925540

Thank you anon! While it appears fashionable to be evil to each other on this board, I'm happy with your positive vibes. Thank you.

>>5929792

What Ezekiel saw?

Understood. At least a little bit.

I'd worry about (((their))) karma wheel because it might help them here and now but unless they are really really careful they could be enslaved in Davy Jones' Locker for a really long time to pay off their debts.

>>5930956

Ha! My fault. 'the wheel'. Love Q!

I'm still thinking karma wheel and debts to Davy Jones.

>>5948113

Are you talking about these rods?

https://youtu.be/hCE17FmZMBU

Specifically the forward facing rod?

Looks like staff work: ready, defend, attack/stab, done. Then rinse and repeat.

>>5939154

I guess the initial wheel is the Fibonacci sequence with the actual when you're referring to being the mother?

https://youtu.be/FSmdSw9eEIA

I'm still sticking with the wheel of karma.

Just adding additional possibilities for anons to think around.

>>5951106

Sorry. Not intelligent enough. I'm not able to follow light or vibration as metaphor very effectively. You could use contraction versus expansion, that I'd understand. Or you could use biblical good and evil, got that down pat.

<A picnic is a picnic, right?

So, not really. Not all picnics are the same. Lots of variation to enjoyment there: environment, food, company (environment?).

<Remember the people who accused young woman of being witches. Those people sought to use fear to control.

So now that reflects two patterns I can think about: good/evil and love/fear.

Which goes back to your statement:

<light love love light

But what you're describing is a two-cylinder engine when I think reality has many more drivers than two.

Now if you're literally referring to the picnic of eating emotions, right, since this is the thread to discuss fearful and enlightening topics, then that makes sense. From the attackers' perspective, it really doesn't matter what kind of 'food' except by preference. If the attackers want to grow, the attackers would set themselves inside the loop of karma with their prey because only by submitting can they become part of a functional evolutionary system.

Afraid, I'm not smart enough to help you think through it all. Maybe if I had more shared context?

>>5972379

<Oh what fun, emotional networking!

http://www.iftf.org/future-now/article-detail/emotional-networking-for-caring-and-well-being/

http://www.imagineic.nl/sites/default/files/files/IIC_MW_Column_Emotionnetworking_2.pdf

<Frightening, if one is to think one may only lose his-self in pain. Ecstatic, if one is to think one may lose his-self in pleasure. The dilemma of the 'ego' is the formative proposition of the various states of the lighted mind in a given instant.

>Emotions are a source of food. There are those whose food source is love, and the Original Planners intend to alter the frequency of Earth to that of love.

>The energies simply bring in creative cosmic rays that penetrate your body and create the evolutionary leap inside your body. Once you understand the proper use of emotion and begin to get control over your own frequency, you will be able to broadcast these rays.

http://www.cosmic-people.com/english/svetelna_knihovna/htm/en/en_kniha_bringers_of_the_dawn.htm

>>5970957

<This reality we were incarnated into is a challenge to fight.

>The WORLD is connected. Q-2003 30 AUG 2018.

<Know that we are all part of the shift underway and none of us makes it unless all of us do.

https://www.explorationsinenergy.com/living-matrix

>Trust there are more good than bad. We are not alone. We are all connected in this fight. Q-937 10 MAR 2018.

We need a little extra entropy in this communication system. Not too much, because we don't like shills, but just a bit more, please

>>5983506

I can only speak from what I know and have studied. Plus I can only communicate that which makes sense given the theme currently being expressed.

I know we like to hate on Israel here but they may be a prolifically documented example of a group who was led by extraterrestrials {I'm going with the fact that God is one of us (Morsette) and is also located external to this world - therefore ET}.

<In Jewish tradition, the stones representing the tribes of Israel on the high priest's breastplate alternately glowed or became dim to detect sins committed within one of the tribes. Thus the sin of Achan (see Joshua 7:14–26) was discovered by the fact that the stone of his tribe, Judah, became dim when Joshua looked at the twelve stones. The Samaritan version of the Joshua passage indicates that the stones on the breastplate grew dim when Achan's name was pronounced.

https://publications.mi.byu.edu/pdf-control.php/publications/jbms/6/2/S00006-Glowing_Stones_in_Ancient_and_Medieval_Lore.html

http://israelphilately.org.il/en/catalog/articles/999/The%20High%20Priest's%20Breastplate

<Most of the Talmudic rabbis, and Josephus, following the belief that Urim meant "lights", argued that divination by Urim and Thummim involved questions being answered by great rays of light shining out of certain jewels on the breastplate; each jewel was taken to represent different letters, and the sequence of lighting thus would spell out an answer (though there were 22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet, and only 12 jewels on the breastplate);[9][10][11] two Talmudic rabbis, however, argued that the jewels themselves moved in a way that made them stand out from the rest, or even moved themselves into groups to form words.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urim_and_Thummim

Sorry, anon. I take every idea seriously even if I eventually decide to discard it.

>>5980498

Is that an attempt to suggest flat Earth makes sense? Or hollow Earth?

All lands upon which people dwell is called Earth just like all atoms are called atoms and all stars are suns to the inhabitants of the solar system behind discussed.

I wouldn't fight for flat Earth. Ask an ET and see what kind of mirthful response you get.

>>5983921

Sadly, according to Sandia National Laboratory (PDF attached) from https://www.sandia.gov/fso/fso_conferences/2011_FSO_Conference/2011_FSO_OriginQandL.pdf, Q stands for 'Questionnaire'.

Though it would be far cooler if the L stood for Linear and the Q stood for Quantum.

However, metaphysically speaking, Question is a very apt metaphor for establishment of a relationship, I suppose.

The Question must be asked.

But they have to do it right, asking 'is it real?' is about as low entropy as telling a chatbot 'hello'. Shannon entropy (https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Shannon_entropy) can be used for lots of stuff, and one of them is for getting a good conversation going.

Typically, higher density strings with more information generate a better conversation.

Though strangely, completely random and dense strings will waste human processing power, so too dense is just as bad as too little information to latch onto.

By the way, the Devil, only has half the equation, as the picture shows (half standing on his soap box) but with that fake news, he can sometimes infect and enslave both male and female to his cause.

>>5985325

With that said, since the arbitrary nature of the answer might be off-putting, I used your suggestion and built a 5 pointed star (the five-star pattern, isn't it cool?) and labeled the inner vessel with odd numbers 1,3,5,7,9 and the outer with 0,3,4,6,8. Sadly, 3-6-9 only build a stupid Triangulum in that model instead of the neat vortex heart-shaped thingy. Anyway, then I noted the direction (English, so clockwise). Then I noticed my favorite inward and outward, compression and expansion cycles.

But nothing has much to do with extraterrestrial entities except for the Triangulum crack.

I'd say there is a Q (Question) factor holding the star together. We wouldn't draw it unless we had a question and it wouldn't contain all numbers 0-9 unless it could answer. Going to go lurk now, sorry anons, for not holding the conversation perfectly even.

>>5985688

Sorry. Outer was labeled with evens: 0,2,4,6,8.

Love it.

>>5993876

But I notice we're not saying anything worth reading since tarot-anon and I stopped chatting this week. So nothing to lurk over.

So questions for experts:

1. Mind control? Real? Remote or therapy?

2. Marciniak? Bringers of the Dawn?

3. Kryon? Magnetic master and physics of emotion?

4. Lazaar? Limited hangout?

5. Barney and Betty Hill? Old school body snatchers? Why?

6. Hatred for or disdain of mainstream folks like Wilcock, Greer, Goode, Icke, Saither, and other? Why? Any better sources for 40 thousand foot perspective?

7. Is there a connection with tarot and chakras and mental communications with extraterrestrials? If so, what? How? Why? Why not?

8. Connections between fallen angels and extraterrestrials? Yes, no? Deep state connections? How? Why?

9. Spiritual geometry? Fake? Real? Space-time connections with fractals? Fake? Holographic theory? Mental models that are helpful?

10. Does Q actually care? Is this something that is true or just an adult fairy tale? Is disclosure that dangerous to normie users? Really? Side boards inactive?

On a practical level: just listened to Praying Medic say that someone wants us to keep our post count under 15 or 20. Was wondering why so many people are so shilly and unafraid to not engage honestly. How does one change the id? I'm set up to maintain consistency and not to change. How do I do it without blowing my browser away or rebooting my router?

>>5989729

Check out Higher Self. During the New York one, they had a bunch of messages about practicing for engaging the deep state, or something like it.

>>5985811

Almost hate to re-engage you and mess with your studies but, regarding Q,W,T:

The first thing I noticed when I re-wrote away from the vortex math construct to the star math thing, as recommended, was that 3,6,9 didn't have the correct significance. I recorded that 2,5,8 was the most important thing. Which is Q=17=8, W=23=5, and T=20=2. So exactly what? I think the vortex is actually more truthful and consistent in 3-d than the star. If I draw the center of the star out away from the page as a 3-d artifact, we don't see the same symmetry. Am I missing something?

>>6012446

Apologies again, I guess my rock solid consistency isn't enough.

>>6021131

Thanks for the additional knowledge.

<Who have we seen consistently having the highest post count in previous threads?

>Watch for those who scream the loudest. - Q

So, by that logic Q itself is something to be concerned about? Over 3000 drops? And what about POTUS? Something like over 5000 posts?

I'm sorry, clearly I'm too new and inexperienced but I guess good intentions only lead to trouble.

Yes, I agree no one should monopolize any conversation but what I've seen especially pronounced in this thread is many hours of silence, dropped ideas, failure to engage the topics, ad hominim attacks, lack of honest acknowledgement of failures. If the anons were following Q, they'd recognized that nature abhors a vacuum. Of course it gets filled with whatever is on individual anon's minds. Critical thinking.

Love you guys. Even the evil ones; or the ones that are misaligned according to my worldview.

>>6020191

Interesting. Every time I walk on the grass or play in the garden or shovel snow or mow the lawn or pray. But I sense from the image the 9th is what you're worried mostly about. Funny how different worldviews and religions can lead to spiritual experiences. Can ya believe the 9th can be blown wide open just through baptism and a little faith? Amazing to me at least because on the inside we are taught that vortexes are magic and of the devil. We are taught to ignore external data that night confuse and distract from focus (which is a legitimate concern, BTW) and that chakras don't exist. My experience is that many of the formal systems do use a process that hooks into reality.

>>6023332

<Left(path)3,6,9{12}{6,3,2}

Note that 6,3,2 can become 8, 5, 2 just by adding duality (2) to the mind and sprit (body is already duality). Of course, I'm just riffing and have no actually clue. That's why I'm watching you anons to see what I can learn.

>>6023332

<I simply loved the Ra material and studied it (study it).

It is neat, isn't it? They did want to make sure it didn't become a religion because that was used two times previously to really screw things up royally (pun intended). I study lots but find myself perpetually bewildered in a constant state of pleasant surprise - like a dunce or a child.

>>6023431

<Our states of coherent light mind though is very easy for them.

That's cheating. Any moron can watch a computer oscillating when people are resonant. You can do it yourself with no technology just by singing a song gently around someone else and listening to their responses.

That means that traffic problems are two-fold: first a problem that smart cars will solve and secondly an opportunity to aim a measuring device at people to infer their internal state. None of their business on the second, actually (patriot, Q definition 2).

>>6023594

<Preferred if you stayed within the 1st order bounds.

What are 1st order bounds? And have I crossed them?

>>6023946

<Also, fyi, the antidisclosure egoshill is right. Tarot, numerology&co are not aliens or advanced technology per se.

Unless (((they))) are using this 'technology' against us.

<Tarot in particular sounds like heavy bs with little to no logical background and scientific methods applicable.

Interesting. Have you read Snow Crash? I'm not a tarot guy myself but there are archetypes which are tied to emotional language. These archetypes are captured in drawings and replayed at random. If nothing is truly random and everything is connected, then there is a reasonable relationship between things that shouldn't matter scientifically and things that matter spiritually. Have you read Jung's Synchronicity? Chock full of scientific proofs for things that shouldn't be possible because they are acausally linked. He literally went mad studying this stuff (he focused on horoscopes and the like, principle is the same).

<BELIEVE. There is GOOD out there. We OPpose DECEPTION.

Hmmmm. The good are more than the bad. Sounds like Q. But opposition to deception implies that someone has the full facts and can discern truth from un-truth. Making the stance, is actually proof that the communicators are not really that advanced. By 6th density both service to self and others are effectively the same. Plus didn't Q ask us to be patient because of how dangerous some materials are? I mean mass suffering level danger, right?

>>6023894

<People are incapable of expressing the subtle of emotion commensurate with how your people understand the light.

Fren, anons are not divided. The 'your people' may be truthful but it is not complete. Remember developmental levels. In the end all will be right. Whether in this life or in the next, or even another 30000 years from now. Patriots in control.

>>6024272

<You could say it's illogical to think of the future as separate from the now, but people do it all the time.

All points of space and time are connected.

There are no coincidences.

>>6024421

Let the record reflect 6024421-6024392=29=11. 29 is the inverse of 92 (post count).

>Think mirror.

20:38:22 versus 20:36:04

20|11|22. 20|09|22.

02:18 delta 02:09=29=11

I'm thinking we need to study why we press New Reply when we do. Because Q has some amazing coincidences too, not all of which are consciously created by a number-focused-mind.

>>6024640

Feel like we've got unwanted attention. Dropping back to lurk'n.

https://www.multivax.com/last_question.html