to the shill discussing taking a pen at the office:
deal with your own concept of accountability without trying to guilt everyone else.
'collective guilt'?
is that another lie of Socialism?
some are possessed of demons.
in that sense ONLY THE DEMONS are guilty.
it's best for you to look at yourself and stop with your 'we are all one. I am a sinner. you are as evil as me' bit.
It's tireing and shows you to be a manipulator.
your philosophy is garbage.
the one you post to talks about serious abuses of liberty. You talk about 'pens' in the office. by the way, pens are usually not accounted after being distributed. If you 'take it home' it's not stealing then, is it? It's expected that will happen.
you try to equate serious abuses of human liberty to the way that pens are accounted for in an office environment?
you should not be even discussing morality.