Leave the name and everything else blank you just gave your e mail out to all and sundry. You can post here without filling in the personal stuff that ID's you, that is the whole point of this place. You are anon, we are anon, BO please remove this new fags name.
This conversation has taken place in anon household as well. It almost seems too brilliant a plan to believe given the monstrous amount of pro remain prop going through British MSM. But if there is even the slimmest chance that she has pulled this off for the UK then she deserves a life peerage for delivering the UK back to democracy and freedom. I really hope Q is right and May has been 'our girl' right from the start.
What would removing the House of Lords and the monarchy achieve beyond concentrating power into the hands of Westminster?
Just say we do that, then where is the hand brake on a Westminster that becomes fully comped, by say an ideological faction voted in by high numbers of 'believers'. You know exactly what I mean by this.
Right now we
have a Westminster majority that are Europhiles and they are doing everything possible to not follow the mandate handed to them on a manifesto to leave. Now what if that majority were in favour of removing secular practices of law and replacing them with religious practice of law, where is the handbrake?
At the moment the Lords as cranky, costly and fusty as it is still operational as a handbrake to bills passing through parliament and the monarchy has the power to prorogue parliament at any point that it becomes a direct threat to the nation.
My question to you is not denying there is change needed, but how do you ensure that change does not lead into an even more porous and dangerously powerful Westminster?
Currently the Lords and the monarchy are the only handbrake there is. MI6 seems to be a law unto itself given the Steele Dossier and involvement in the attempt to interfere in the US elections and compromise Trump.
I think the fact that the Lords and Monarchy enjoy their privilege via the goodwill of the nation could be used to force them into doing a better job of keeping Westminster in their lane. Would be interested to know what alternative you propose to keep Westminster on an ideological leash in future?
I've pondered that too. I wonder exactly what they COULD be sued for. It would be interesting to know. I also wonder if that was the line he fed her to say for a reason that only the EU know about. Interdasting for sure.
What I found most interesting is that it is largely sea strength being deployed and done so from the Clyde. I think it is duel purpose ie ostensibly more NATO sabre rattling aimed at Putin. But 'just happens' to put a 10,000 strong military force on our island the day after we are due to leave the EU. It would not be impossible to imagine it is being staged to undermine any thought of civil disobedience by an angry populace.
Frankly I see that as the shape of things to come from the EU itself and why they want an EU army. Much easier to quell any uprising rom within by using none nationals to the country. France has the problem at the moment that a French army will not be willing to shoot French people.
Less reluctance if the 'peace keeping' (sarc) force is imported from elsewhere. Very worrying times indeed. The German army had no personal problem 'quelling' insurrection against the Nazis in occupied European countries. I could see an EU army functioning in the same vein. How remainers cannot see this shitstorm unfolding baffles me.
What I think is fucked is that a FF incident in New Zealand and by FF I don't mean no loss of life, I mean a dubiously well travelled and highly trained operative goes and efficiently murders 50 people in a known radicalising mosque under the guise of 'casual, lone wolf, right wing nut' and it ends up with a female politician and a significant amount of neo liberal female journalists wearing a symbol of ultra conservative religious oppression on the TV as a show of solidarity whilst criminalising and denying internet access to any citizen who wants to see A) what happened or B) debate what happened on an unmoderated platform. What part of Iranian women burning their head coverings have these stupid sentimental bitches missed ? And what part of 'restricted internet' do they think is reasonable in a free democracy? Shit like this is terrifying. The NZ leader has just played right into the hands of the fundi Islam propaganda machine. There are so many questions to be answered about who that shooter was and who the others were that were caught on video. But no 1.5 million copies of the videos scrubbed within days and every forum for discussion banned. Then every useful idiot puts their head scarves on and says 'we're fighting for peace.' That is like fucking for virginity. So many questions need answering about this mosque shooting and it has already become water under a very dark and oppressive bridge. I do believe those people died, why and how and by which nation and bank roll is an entirely different question that needs answering.
Bring it on anon. The UK is boiling and at an all time barometric low with regard to trust in either MSM, BBC or our scurvy bunch of weasel politicians. London feels as though it is a remainer safe haven and cultural capital that houses the propaganda machine that cannot be dismantled a bit like Washington is with it's marches and demos that claim to speak for all. In fact London is a surrounded entity that can have it's entire infrastructure brought to a standstill by the rest of the UK. The haulage and van go slow this week is just the beginning of a spanner being applied to the machine that is London. They have the BBC, we have the ports, the motorways and every avenue of service leading into the capital. The low paid nobodies could effectively fuck up London very easily. Post gets mixed up at sorting offices, orders mysteriously are not put on lorries, fuck ups happen, just like our politicians fucked up Brexit.
We don't need riots to fuck things up we are British workers with a massive trade union history. Just not doing their shit for them can and will fuck them up royally and the thing is, they are banking on riots because they need riots to stop us. Kek they need a functional
postal and delivery service more than anything in London. They're also quite reliant on a smooth running train service. More kek for the yellow vest betrayed voter who has a manifesto sheet for delivery in London.
We are the fucking plan anon. The way the little people have always been the mice that roar.
The most powerful thing about living in a service based economy is 'you are the service' and should you choose to suspend service…join the dots for London and our service reliant 'betters'
Brexit voters are plumbers, mechanics, builders, chippies, blockies, post men, post women, lorry drivers, train guards, goods shippers, dockers, roofers, tilers, traffic works co-ordinators, delivery people, cleaners, mobile phone sales people, gardeners, cooks, hospital porters, all the people in all the jobs that the Middle Class elite rely on for their every instagrammed and successful 'life journey' Would you want to piss them off? If they were working on your renovation? Your 2nd home? Your BMW? Delivering your important documents? Sorting out your travel manifesto? They have no idea what is coming, they live thinking all these services just belong to them. Every single service these muppets rely on is done by Brexit voters. Every single service can be fucked up by Brexit voters. And you know what we will tell them? 'Oh sorry about that, lessons will be learned.'
I missed sparkies. Of course they do, imagine you need your 2nd home re wiring. Could take ages and have all sorts of problems that only turn up after you've paid.
I agree but we won't know until the bloody day unfortunately. I'm busy posting the London under siege 'go slow' ideas on the Daily Mail for people who are ready to riot and get arrested to get on with. We don't need our people getting arrested for burning stuff, we need them stuffing up London's service industry in a million small but deeply effective ways. I also posted the 'May is our girl' possibility. Fewer takers on that.
I'd be keen to see the house of Lords reflect the cabinet in terms of hand brake and career relevance. So for every Cabinet chief of education in the Lords you have a man or woman who is actually a career educator wh has achieved success without scandal in their field, same for medicine and environment. That way you have a hand brake that comes from the rock face so to speak and someone equipped by a career without scandal to call bullshit on cabinet members with zero experience in the office they hold.
That is a very pertinent comment. I recently read a piece by a top legal person in the UK who set out the way the law functions in a democracy in a very easy to understand way.
What he said essentially is that there are tow sorts of law, law that prohibits and law that compels, and law that prohibits should always take precedence over law that compels in a good democracy.
He explained it like this.
Law that prohibits is laws like, don't fuck children, rape people, rob, steal or generally fuck up others.
Law that compels is law that insists you pay tax, don't have certain opinions, only watch certain films, pay the BBC to have TV in short state empowering laws.
He said the British public and any public of any country should become very concerned when laws that compel, outway in amount and policing, laws that prohibit.
Made me sit up and re-read. Very much a light bulb moment. And that from a very old and well educated British law man.
Thanks for posting FOI request but it does not remove the fact that the exercise was planned for the day after exit. It remains to be seen what is coming in the next five days and from their we will know why we have 10,000 NATO troops on our shores. As others have said it could be to protect democracy or protect the undermining of it. All this proves is that ot was planned from August 2018
This board needs more of us…it's moving at a snails pace and where are we all? On the Daily Mail and other MSM. Brexit is five days away and this board is like a fucking East coast railway station on a Sunday.
Actually I am not seeing the 'privilege' in your description or the 'negative 'as a negative. I think my mans description of laws that 'prohibit' and laws that 'compel' is a much better and more accurate way of explaining the laws that govern us. Your description sounds something more akin to becoming a citizen of Rome following occupation. We are not occupied and as such we ought to be seeing prohibitive law more than we ought to be seeing 'compelling law'
o7 UK anons reprting for duty.
Just been red pilling on the DM for US anons on the outcome of the sham investigation and the Steele Dossier I can't get anything about UK involvement past moderation on Daily Mail, but have tried. I so hope you are right about May, we literally have five days to see if she has flipped Trump ways or is still a puppet of the EU. We are all devastated at the way Westminster has undermined the biggest vote in UK history. It is a massive hurt to Brits who always believed we had a democracy. Call us naïve, because frankly I think we imagined this level of deep state propaganda and cabal funding was something that happened in 'other places' despite the fact our history tells us it has always been here with us, somehow the post WW2 political climate led us to believe that was over forever. Clearly it isn't. Well done US anons for keeping your elected president despite every action to depose him and smear him. Q we hope for help in our hour of need. US anons please support us.
Yes agreed. A simple prohibitive law is a law that promotes freedom within certain moral imperatives that allow for political disagreement and shared power. A law working towards 'compulsion' removes freedom, removes space for disagreement and pushes those who disagree or refuse to 'buy in' (literally and monetarily) into the realm of criminals.
Chin chin baker and a heartfelt thank you from a UK anon. Nice work.
I would not bet the house you can't afford on it anon. We need to wait and see what happens in the next five days. Hands will be turned, people will then know.