It's good for sure.
this is pretty good.
Do we want to try and get it all in one swoop and declare our reasons?
I'll repost this and see what you want to combine:
New attempt.
1)"#WeThePeople hereby inform the Government of the United State of an ongoing conspiracy to deprive citizens of their civil rights both natural and explicitly stated under the Constitution. Our freedoms of speech, free association, belief, spirituality, privacy in the home, etc. have been conspired against using algorithms across multiple platforms. We have evidence of this and it will be made available in full to the relevant offices and people.
Our natural rights extend to whatever medium may be used in their expression and enjoyment thereof. Accordingly, we demand to be made whole, and the force of the Original Constitution and Bill of Rights recognized to apply to all levels of society, including the utility we call the internet.
(((Corporations are people, right? Our government is made up of people. These corps bought influence with money from other members of government, right? Therefore the government DID deprive us of our rights.)))
2) #WeThePeople, demand our to be made whole, and that Our Government investigate this conspiracy, however deep it may go, and prosecute within the relevant legal framework.
3) A contract is unenforceable if one party does not understand, and also it must be an even and fair exchange between parties. Selling our data to third parties, censorship, violations of privacy, spying, and even physical violence in the form of "doxxing" and "shame-mobs" extend to the physical world, and have gotten people killed. As the internet is thoroughly embedded in the fabric of our society, and required in all aspects of our lives, the contract terms are no longer fair, and are very onerous. Accordingly, all parties are hereby on notice that all contracts in whatever form are hereby dissolved with relevant parties.
4) Therefore, #WeThePeople demand Our Government apply all relevant legal mechanisms to ensure a Free and Neutral internet
agreed. just uses their fiction against them. Trump's good a that.
Worry about all that later. Get the people and the force of law involved now.
Not trying to slide, genuinely curious as to nature and purpose if I'm undermining the effort.
Am I misunderstanding the point of all this? I worry I am.
The entire point of petitioning is to establish law and set precedent.
Are the rest of you seeing this as just a general "Hey, I'd really like it if the government would just install a free internet"?
Truly asking.
Because if you look at the https:// petitions.whitehouse.gov/about it sure seems like they want us to show them which direction to go as far as a policy change. So if we mention we want them investigated and enough people sign it - there's a excellent chance Trump is going to push in that direction. And since we know the Dems are going down, It has an excellent chance of passing.
>>The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United >>States Constitution. We the People is a platform that empowers the American public to take >>this action like never before – it’s a way for anybody, anywhere, to speak directly to the >>government and become an agent for change.
>>With We the People, you can easily create a petition online, share it, and collect signatures. >>If you gather 100,000 signature in 30 days, we’ll review your petition, make sure it gets in >>front of the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.
>>Petitioning has the potential to enact real change,
This petition needs to be as agnostic as possible to have a chance at the furthest reach, nothing matters more than getting this infront of someone who can help us realize this goal.
This Petition shall serve as a reminder of the unalienable rights granted to each and every American through the Bill of Rights.
1)#WeThePeople hereby demand an #InternetBillOfRights be established to protect our unalienable rights in the modern age.
2)#WeThePeople hereby demand all communication traffic to be treated equally and prohibit throttling, discrimination, or degradation of performance based on content.
3)#WeThePeople hereby inform the Government of the United States of America that our rights as citizens supersede agreements such as TOS, EULAs, and other non-legally binding stipulations.
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Then this is excellent.
Using the old form I learned in civics class. Enough people petition together it's a demand.
You are letting perfect be the enemy of good enough. God knows my heart and intentions and it's not up to you to decide otherwise.
This needs to face the reality on the ground.
I understand what you are discussing, I do.
God given rights, were also called "Natural rights" That's why I phrased it that way. It passes both tests for both audiences. "Universal rights" is also similar but not as good.
We are dealing with brainwashed people, unless we can rally every older religious person to do this and get through the noise in the next few days, we have to craft for a wider audience. I don't know the timeframe but everything feels rushed to me now.
Throw two out there. Push one with God and One not. See how it does? Then we know which way to go if it fails.
>>Who creates Statutes?
Legislature and executive in the Republic.
>>What is a Rule?
Power/Authority
>>What is Color of Law?
Pretense of a right.
>>What does this imply?
All force exercise is a pretense at a right.
>>What is a Man?
Free will.
>>Where does he live?
Where he chooses.
>>Does he have an address?
>>Does he have a 'title'?
If he chooses.
>>Who confers 'Titles'?
Those who assign it.
>>Where do they get their POWER?
Allowance of their decree.
Thank you for that, I had been flagging.
The Bar serves lawyers. So, like public sector unions they serve themselves. And they're government granted.
So by playing the game we allow it occur.
Throw God in and it nullifies it's sting. So Push the original BOR under God. That's what I was pushing hard last night. Board decides, but I agree with you. Your logic is sound.
Respectfully disagree. I've been real deep down the rabbit hole and Belief and Faith are a real, actual, rule set for this world. Beyond our common phrases. Free will is the natural state of things. Violations of free will are the worst karmic reaction.
I'll tag out though if you think it's sliding. Good night all.
So call them natural rights. It means the same thing as God. Which is why they were phrased that way to begin with. That make it agnostic. if they believe they see it. if they don't they won't.
See? Satisfies both requirements.
Do as you will. Love to you all.
Looking sharp. How about at the end of 3 - something to the effect "all data is property of it's owner in perpetuity with all rights attached".
Agreed with one small question: If we have to start an IBOR3, would it be helpful to state at the beginning of it that this is just to get the ball rolling?
"This is a petition to have government look at an IBOR. The language does not matter at this point. It can and will be altered during the process. We just ask that you help get the ball rolling."
Because trying to introduce this topic on some forums last night had me throwing things.
It's my failure, but damn…
Yes. Just shy of 12K sigs
Leave God in. It's important. If you need to go agnostic, use the thing I suggested earlier:
"Natural Rights." If you don't believe it looks innocuous, and if you do believe you know what it means. They mean the same thing. Unalienable is also qualified but not as strong.
Like with Q.