Anonymous ID: de8e4a March 8, 2018, 4:20 p.m. No.593383   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3539 >>4172 >>0513

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>The 'Right to be Forgotten' is unenforceable, how can they prove they've deleted information that can be copied billions of times in seconds. Once you connect to a server >you do not control (and sometimes before then if you're not using crypto) the cat's out of the bag. Decentralized platforms will eventually take over (looking like sooner rather >than later from where I'm sitting) and the ones that succeed will include all the guarantees you and everybody else are asking for possibly in more flavors than anyone can >currently imagine.

 

(This comment is intended to be positive, not in any way oppositional.) History indicates this view is likely too pessimistic. Specifically, the "Right to be Forgotten" is a viable concept that both corporations and government are not allowed to use personal information other than for legally sanctioned uses. Enforcement is difficult, not impossible since it is corporations and governments being restrained, not technology. As an extreme example, think of child porn. The bits and bytes may never go away, but the consequences of using them gets folks put in jail. As a less extreme example, think of stolen credit card number databases. The bits and bytes never go away, but being caught without legal permission allows prosecution. This same concept is why warrants are needed to collect evidence. There certainly are some crooks who get away because the evidence was not properly obtained, but a great many corrupt police are prevented from using planted evidence. Judges decides if the evidence is valid, not the police or prosecutors. The "evidence" may always exist, but the ability to use it is what actually matters. This is a technology independent concept…it just needs to applied to cyberspace…badly.

 

Even though the IBOR revolves around cyber based abuse, the final focus must always be centered on retraining evil people, governments, and corporations from abusing other people. Real rights are technology independent.

 

I'm fully for the 100,000 sigs. But this should be an desirable step, not the final goal. One final goal would be a "Right To Privacy"…with now being the time to clearly state what a "Right to Privacy" means in Cyberspace. Remember, the "Right to be Forgotten" is primarily European language. Americans demanding a "Right to Privacy" is much easier to understood and mobilize.