Anonymous ID: c533e2 March 22, 2019, 7:42 a.m. No.5826050   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6055 >>6631

>>5825777 pb

And if someone makes you feel bad, you don't have to hear what they say either. This is Mormon programming at it's best. But no, you don't have to go to the temple to know the doctrine of blood atonement.

 

“I [am] opposed to hanging, even if a man kill another, I will shoot him, or cut off his head, spill his blood on the ground, and let the smoke thereof ascend up to God; and if ever I have the privilege of making a law on that subject, I will have it so.”

 

  • Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., History of the Church, v. 5, p. 296, 1949

 

“[My life was in danger] if I remained there, because of my protest against the doctrine of Blood Atonement and other new doctrines that were brought into the Church.”

 

  • Apostle William Smith, brother of Joseph Smith, Jr., Temple Lot Case, p. 98

 

“I will tell you how much I love those characters. If they had any respect to their own welfare, they would come forth and say, whether Joseph Smith was a Prophet or not, ‘We shed his blood, and now let us atone for it;' and they would be willing to have their heads chopped off, that their blood might run upon the ground, and the smoke of it rise before the Lord as an incense for their sins.”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 2, p. 179, February 18, 1855

 

“The time has been in Israel under the law of God, the celestial law, or that which pertains to the celestial law, for it is one of the laws of that kingdom where our Father dwells, that if a man was found guilty of adultery, he must have his blood shed, and that is near at hand.”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 4, p. 219

 

“Will you love your brothers and sisters likewise, when they have committed a sin that cannot be atoned for without the shedding of their blood? Will you love that man or woman well enough to shed their blood? That is what Jesus Christ meant.”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Deseret News, April 16, 1856

Anonymous ID: c533e2 March 22, 2019, 7:43 a.m. No.5826055   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6061 >>6150

>>5826050

… “Any of you who understand the principles of eternity – if you have sinned a sin requiring the shedding of blood, except the sin unto death – would not be satisfied or rest until your blood should be spilled, that you might gain the salvation you desire. This is the way to love mankind.”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Deseret News, April 16, 1856

 

“I say, rather than that apostates should flourish here, I will unsheath [sic] my bowie knife, and conquer or die [Great commotion in the congregation, and a simultaneous burst of feeling, assenting to the declaration.]. Now, you nasty apostates, clear out, or judgment will be put to the line, and righteousness to the plummet [Voices, generally, ‘go it, go it.']. If you say it is right, raise your hands [All hands up.]. Let us call upon the Lord to assist us in this, and every good work.”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 1, p. 83; online at Link is here.

 

“Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife, and put a javelin through both of them. You would be justified, and they would atone for their sins, and be received into the Kingdom of God. I would at once do so, in such a case; and under the circumstances, I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and I would do it with clean hands…. There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it.”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 1, pp. 108-109

 

“If you want to know what to do with a thief that you may find stealing, I say kill him on the spot, and never suffer him to commit another iniquity. I will prove by my works whether I can mete out justice to such persons, or not. I would consider it just as much my duty to do that, as to baptize a man for the remission of his sins.”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 1, pp. 108-109

 

I know that there are transgressors, who, if they knew themselves and the only condition upon which they can obtain forgiveness, would beg of their brethren to shed their blood, that the smoke might ascend to God as an offering to appease the wrath that is kindled against them, and that the law might have its course.”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 4, p. 43

 

“Now take a person in this congregation who has knowledge with regard to being saved… and suppose that he has committed a sin that he knows will deprive him of that exaltation which he desires, and that he cannot attain to it without the shedding of blood, and also knows that by having his blood shed he will atone for that sin and may be saved and exalted with the God, is there a man or woman in this house but what would say, ‘shed my blood that I may be saved and exalted with the Gods?'”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 4, pp. 219-220

 

“It is true that the blood of the Son of God was shed for sins through the fall and those committed by men, yet men can commit sins which it [the blood of Christ] can never remit.”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 4, p. 54

Anonymous ID: c533e2 March 22, 2019, 7:43 a.m. No.5826061   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6073

>>5826055

“This is loving your neighbour as ourselves; if he needs help, help him; and if he wants salvation and it is necessary to spill his blood on the earth in order that he may be saved, spill it.”

 

  • Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 4, p. 220

 

“If men turn traitors to God and His servants, their blood will surely be shed, or else they will be damned, and that too according to their covenants.”

 

  • Apostle Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, v. 4, p. 375

 

“It is not fully comprehended why it was necessary that Jesus Christ should leave the heavens,…and come upon the earth to offer himself up a sacrifice;…why this should be, why it was necessary that his blood should be shed is an apparent mystery…. What sins of the world did he take away? We are told that it is the sin which Adam committed.”

 

  • Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 10, pp. 114-115

 

“The people of Utah are the only ones in this nation who have taken effectual measures… to prevent adulteries and criminal connections between the sexes. The punishment, for these crimes is death to both male and female. And this law is written on the hearths and printed in the thoughts of the whole people.”

 

  • Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 223

 

“I say, there are men and women that I would advise to go to the Presidency immediately, and ask him to appoint a committee to attend to their care; and then let a place be selected, and let that committee shed their blood. We have amongst us that are full of all manner of abominations, those who need to have their blood shed, for water will not do, their sins are too deep a dye… I believe that there are a great many; and if they are covenant breakers we need a place designated, where we can shed their blood… Brethren and sisters, we want you to repent and forsake your sins. And you who have committed sins that cannot be forgiven through baptism, let your blood be shed, and let the smoke ascend, that the incense thereof may come up before God as an atonement for your sins, and that the sinners in Zion may be afraid.”

 

  • Apostle Jebediah M. Grant, 2nd counselor to Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 4, pp. 49-51

 

“We would not kill a man, of course, unless we killed him to save him…”

 

  • Apostle Jebediah M. Grant, Deseret News, July 27, 1854

 

"I would have a tendency to place terror on those who leave these parts [Utah], that may prove their salvation when they see the heads of thieves taken off, or shot down before the public… I believe it would be pleasing in the sight of heaven to sanctify ourselves and put these things out of our midst.”

 

  • Apostle Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, v. 1, p. 73

Anonymous ID: c533e2 March 22, 2019, 7:45 a.m. No.5826073   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>5826061

Blood Atonement and Apostle Bruce R. McConkie (1915 - 1985)

 

“From the days of Joseph Smith to the present, wicked and evilly-disposed persons have fabricated false and slanderous stories to the effect that the Church, in the early days of this dispensation, engaged in a practice of blood atonement whereunder the blood of apostates and others was shed by the Church as an atonement for their sins… there is not one historical instance of so-called blood atonement in this dispensation, nor has there been one event or occurrence whatever, of any nature, from which the slightest inference arises that any such practice either existed or was taught….

“But under certain circumstances there are some serious sins for which the cleansing of Christ does not operate, and the law of God is that men must then have their own blood shed to atone for their sins.”

 

  • Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 92

 

“Well, if I understand Elder McConkie [in the above quote], he was saying that, although earlier Church leader's never believed, preached, or practiced blood atonement, we actually do believe in it and would practice it if we had the legal and political power to do so. (Even thought we didn't when Brigham Young presided over the theocratic territory of Deseret.)”

 

  • Keith Norman, Mormon scholar, Sunstone, Aug. 1990, p. 11

Anonymous ID: c533e2 March 22, 2019, 8:13 a.m. No.5826400   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6483

>>5826150

 

No this was Mitt:

>>5825777

 

he called me a liar for stating common knowledge. It was an impolite way of asking for sauce. So I sauced it.

 

That's kinda what we do here, I thought.

See the luciferian use of pride?

 

"You can't research this. You have to live temple worthy. Only those of us who do can know, and part of living worthy is not casting our pearls before swine. We don't tell what is sacred to those who aren't worthy."

 

It's funny, because they use the word "secret" three times in their temple oaths. At least used to.

 

Observe the Stockholm syndrome. The mental abuse is so great that they embrace their abusers:

 

"Only a luciferian would keep posting so many lies about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. "

 

The the original post spoke of the doctrine of Blood Atonement. The Mormon denies the doctrine, then threatens me with it:

 

"The plague that hit the dozen men who martyred Joseph Smith Jr will hit all who lie their way into the temple, and all who willfully break the sacred covenants made therein."

 

Yes. This is an example of your "good Mormon neighbor". They are mind-control victims. Hopefully they get woke through all this as well.