>maiden name was Loeb.
Follow the wives. There were quite a few who married Loebs.
>So schiff subjects of Roths via Bronfman?
Goes back even further. Jacob Schiff was VERY influential over in America. The relationship with Roths goes back to the 1700's. Read a bit about Schiff's influence in America here.
http://tomatobubble.com/id695.html