Anonymous ID: be6176 March 28, 2019, 2:26 a.m. No.5938918   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9502

Quick Sit Rep:

 

1) May's deal is dead - even if Bercow allows it back, the DUP will kill it.

2) There is no majority in the HoC for any other proposal.

3) If the deal is not passed, HMG has until 12 April to tell EU what the plan is.

 

At this point, there are only 2 options:

 

1) Withdraw Article 50; or

2) Leave on 12 April on WTO terms but without any deal with the EU.

 

Withdrawing A50 will lead to chaos - not just 17.4m unhappy campers but there are 30+ Tory MPs who will thereafter rebel on everything and will support a 'no confidence' vote against the govt. Party discipline in the HoC will collapse. A general election is inevitable but that will not fix the split in both main parties. Even after an election, gridlock is guaranteed.

 

Leaving on WTO terms will provoke an instant response but when the dust settles, a GE can be called and people can have their say. Once the UK is out, everyone can rally round to decide what to do next. Some will want to rejoin the EU others will look to trade deals as the way forward. But that is a normal situation and can be debated.

 

The least long term damage to the system itself, will be to leave with no deal.

Anonymous ID: be6176 March 28, 2019, 3:38 p.m. No.5950742   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>5950492

If I might offer an opinion from the outside looking in, the problem is that there are no leaders. The system is designed to make sure anyone who might be a leader is excluded at an early stage.

 

The process for the selection of potential MPs ensures that the people you get to vote for, are all cookie-cutter look-a-likes, who have nothing in common with the people who eventually elect them. Nominally they are 'left-establishment' or 'right-establishment' but at heart they are all establishment - intent on a lifetime of politics in which they will never make a difference. None of them are leaders.

 

A 'unifying force' is (almost by definition) populist - exactly what TPTB are trying to destroy. They want to divide and rule - unifying forces are a bad thing in their ideology.

Anonymous ID: be6176 March 29, 2019, 6 a.m. No.5960240   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>5960200

There seems to be a major campaign to try to fool people into believing that this is the 'Brexit' they voted for and if the HoC does not vote for it, they will be the ones who should be blamed.

 

It is being taken as a 'given' that the EU will agree to a long extension if they vote it downโ€ฆ very few are questioning that!

 

It is all complete bollocks! In any case, as things stand, May will lose by more than 50 - even with all the traitors swapping to her side.

Anonymous ID: be6176 March 29, 2019, 2:21 p.m. No.5966938   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>5966765

That is oddโ€ฆ Fairford is currently a standby airfield and is not in active service. It has been maintained by a civilian operating unit, on a care and maintenance basis, since September 2010.

 

This is the biggest deployment at Fairford since Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003.

Anonymous ID: be6176 March 31, 2019, 3:57 a.m. No.5989355   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9876

One of the comments here:

http://robintilbrook.blogspot.com/2019/03/english-democrats-bring-case-to-get.html

 

Says: "my understanding is that the EU were NOT unanimous in fact there were at least 3 abstentions."

 

If that is right, the chance of May getting a long extension from the EU must be very remote indeed.

 

We only need one of the 27 to say "No" and the only remaining option for May, to stop no deal, would be to revoke A.50

Anonymous ID: be6176 March 31, 2019, 7:05 a.m. No.5990311   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>0439

>>5990107

I believe it is being heard tomorrow morning but the problem, I think, is that the HoC has now ratified it. If the HoC had voted against it last week then the govt would now be in deep shit.

 

No doubt that May got it the wrong way round but now that the HoC has OKed it, she probably gets away with it.

Anonymous ID: be6176 March 31, 2019, 7:18 a.m. No.5990395   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>1238

Telling the Truth About Islam is Now a Criminal Offense in Europe

 

The European Court of Human Rights has decided that it is illegal to criticize the islamic prophet mohammad for marrying a nine-year-old girlโ€ฆ.

 

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/telling-the-truth-about-islam-is-now-a-criminal-offense-in-europe/