Anonymous ID: 3a0efb May 1, 2019, 10:58 a.m. No.6383375   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3474

This is Thomas Anon,

 

Good day to anons reading this,

 

Well, I've been trying to find any new digging paths about Lewis Cass, so I looked again at Auguste Chouteau to see if there is any sort of link between him and Cass…. I found one but it's thin.

 

This is from Auguste Chouteau bio from wikipedia:

 

"He married Marie Therese, the daughter of Jean-Gabriel Cerré, on September 21, 1786 at the Basilica of St. Louis, King of France (then a vertical-log church, not the current church on the site).[42] The marriage united members of the two leading St. Louis families; it also appears to have been a happy one."

 

Remember how Q said to follow the wives? So I decided to take a look at the bride's father = Jean-Gabriel Cerré.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Gabriel_Cerr%C3%A9

 

"Jean-Gabriel Cerré (August 12, 1734 – April 4, 1805) was a Quebec-born merchant in the Illinois Country and St. Louis.[1]

 

The son of Joseph Serré and Marie-Madeleine Picard, he was born in Montreal.[1] Cerré established himself in Kaskaskia as a merchant in 1755[2] but retained business and personal connections with Montreal. He was pragmatic in his politics, supporting the British authorities while they were in control and transferring his loyalties to the Americans after George Rogers Clark seized control of the region. In 1779, he was named a justice of the peace for the district. However, the new government was not able to maintain order and, around the end of 1779, he moved to St. Louis, then under Spanish control. His business prospered and he became one of the wealthiest and most influential persons in the area. Control of the Louisiana territory later passed to France, who sold it to the United States in 1803. Cerré died in St. Louis two years later at the age of 70.[1]

 

His daughter Marie-Anne married Pierre-Louis Panet, a Montreal notary, and his daughter Marie-Thérèse married Auguste Chouteau, founder of St. Louis.[1] His youngest daughter Julia married Antoine Pierre Soulard, the king's surveyor for the upper Louisiana territory.[2]

 

Cerre Street in St. Louis was named after Jean-Gabriel Cerré"

Anonymous ID: 3a0efb May 1, 2019, 11:06 a.m. No.6383474   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3825 >>4353

>>6383375

 

Anons did catch George Rogers Clark, right? So, i went to check on the guy and he turned out to be William Clark's older brother:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Rogers_Clark

 

"George Rogers Clark (November 19, 1752 – February 13, 1818) was an American surveyor, soldier, and militia officer from Virginia who became the highest ranking American military officer on the northwestern frontier during the American Revolutionary War. He served as leader of the militia in Kentucky (then part of Virginia) throughout much of the war. He is best known for his celebrated captures of Kaskaskia (1778) and Vincennes (1779) during the Illinois Campaign, which greatly weakened British influence in the Northwest Territory. The British ceded the entire Northwest Territory to the United States in the 1783 Treaty of Paris, and Clark has often been hailed as the "Conqueror of the Old Northwest".

 

Clark's major military achievements occurred before his thirtieth birthday. Afterwards, he led militia in the opening engagements of the Northwest Indian War but was accused of being drunk on duty. He was disgraced and forced to resign, despite his demand for a formal investigation into the accusations. He left Kentucky to live on the Indiana frontier but was never fully reimbursed by Virginia for his wartime expenditures. He spent the final decades of his life evading creditors and living in increasing poverty and obscurity. He was involved in two failed attempts to open the Spanish-controlled Mississippi River to American traffic. He became an invalid after suffering a stroke and the amputation of his right leg. He was aided in his final years by family members, including his younger brother William, one of the leaders of the Lewis and Clark Expedition. He died of a stroke on February 13, 1818"

 

I don't know why, but his face tells me something. He looks like someone i've seen before.

 

So this is how it's linked:

 

Auguste Chouteau <=Jean-Gabriel Cerré <=> George Rogers Clark <=> William Clark <=> Lewis Cass

Anonymous ID: 3a0efb May 1, 2019, 11:33 a.m. No.6383825   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4602 >>7997

>>6383474

 

A bit more on George Rogers Clark:

 

"After another stroke, Clark died at Locust Grove on February 13, 1818; he was buried at Locust Grove Cemetery two days later.[66] Clark's remains were exhumed along with those of his other family members on October 29, 1869, and buried at Cave Hill Cemetery in Louisville"

 

"On May 23, 1928, President Calvin Coolidge ordered a memorial to Clark to be erected at Vincennes, Indiana. Completed in 1933, the George Rogers Clark Memorial was dedicated on June 14, 1936, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The Roman-style temple was erected on what was believed to have been the site of Fort Sackville. The site, now called the George Rogers Clark National Historical Park, became a part of the National Park Service in 1966. Hermon Atkins MacNeil created the monument's 7.5-foot (2.3 m) bronze statue of Clark. The monument's walls include seven murals depicting Clark's famous expedition"

 

So he was buried in Louisville, not surprising there, and again we have president Roosevelt hand dip in affairs relating to Payseur.

Anonymous ID: 3a0efb May 1, 2019, 12:49 p.m. No.6384602   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4763

>>6383825

 

This is the old man again, still thinking about Lewis Cass mystery.

 

A few things I've noticed about Lewis Cass:

 

1 - his signature is very elegant. I don't remember a man having such a peaceful and elegant hand writting. Most men just scribble instead of writting elegantly. So for him to write this nice way it shows he practiced a lot and he wanted his hand writting to be elegant.

 

2 - His Napoleon Bonaparte like hand gesture, which is masonic. We already know that both Cass and Napoleon are freemasons. And is it a coincidence that Cass was alive while Napoleon rose to power and then fell? I have been having this theory for some time now that Napoleon was a "creation" of Louis XVII and heirs = red shoe clan, to relcaim, reconquer what they lost during the French Revolution. Once they got the throne of France back, they head out to conquer the rest of Europe, but failed in the end.

 

3 - this is what is written in wikipedia about him: " Cass resigned on December 13, 1860, because of what he considered Buchanan's failure to protect federal interests in the South and failure to mobilize the federal military, actions that might have averted the threatened secession of Southern states."

 

The american civil war between north and south was from 1861 to 1865. This sentence in his bio about resigning, smells like a "threat" to me, or a warning. And I find it very interesting he resigned just before the civil war broke, and he passed away (if we believe what is written in wikipedia to be correct) just a year after the civil war ended. So in other words, during all of the time of the civil war we have a blank about him. Not a peep, not one comment, not one opinion, not one sound. He was secretaty of war and secretary of State, as well as a governor and a senator in Heavens name, isn't that odd? I have this feeling it's as if he was overseeing the civil war from afar. This is very strange.

Anonymous ID: 3a0efb May 1, 2019, 1:08 p.m. No.6384763   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4974

>>6384602

 

4 - his children & wife (from wikipedia):

 

" Lewis Cass and Elizabeth Spencer were the parents of seven children, five of whom lived past infancy:[8]

Isabella Cass (1805-1879), the wife of Theodorus Marinus Roest van Limburg[9]

Elizabeth (1812-1832)[9]

Lewis, Jr. (1814-1878), who served as an army officer and as U.S. Chargé d'Affaires and Minister to the Papal States[9]

Mary (1812-1882), the wife of Army officer Augustus Canfield[9]

Matilda (1818-1898), the wife of Henry Ledyard[9]

Ellen (1821-1824)[9]

Spencer (June 1828-October 1828)[9]

 

Cass's great-great grandson, Republican Thomas Cass Ballenger, represented North Carolina's 10th Congressional District from 1986 to 2005"

 

  • First about the wife: the last name Spencer is Princess Diana's family name as well as Winston Churchil. I know, I know! There are plenty of Spencers out there, but this doesn't mean we shouldn't verify and check, just in case.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

 

I just put the bio links for now if anons want to do some reading into those 2. This rabbit holes needs further digging and verification.

 

  • Second the children: I went to see if there is anything about the son; he was after all called Lewis Cass Junior. I didn't find much on my first dig attempt, which is odd considering how important Lewis Cass senior was in US goovt.

 

I found this though: https://www.geni.com/people/Lewis-Cass-Jr/356781425610001257

 

Where I noticed that the year of birth is totally different. So this is evidence there is some sort of manipulation or forgery being done about the dates, the names and the birth places of this family. Apart this, it's like his unique living son and heir is a ghost.

 

Then, I looked at one of his daughter's till now, didn't go to the others = Matilda (1818-1898), the wife of Henry Ledyard.

 

I didn't find much about her, but found about her husband, and this is where things start to get interesting.

Anonymous ID: 3a0efb May 1, 2019, 1:29 p.m. No.6384974   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5324

>>6384763

 

I know I'm putting an entire page of wikipedia, but not a single word is to be missed, please archive if possible:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ledyard

 

"Henry Brockholst Ledyard, Sr. (March 5, 1812 – June 7, 1880) was the mayor of Detroit, Michigan and a state senator, briefly served as assistant secretary under Secretary of State Lewis Cass, and was the president of the Newport Hospital and the Redwood Library in Newport, Rhode Island. "

 

"Ledyard was born in New York City on March 5, 1812, the son of prominent New York lawyer Benjamin Ledyard (1779–1812) and Susan French Livingston (1789–1864). His mother was the daughter of Revolutionary War Colonel and US Supreme Court justice Henry Brockholst Livingston (1757–1823) and granddaughter of New Jersey governor William Livingston.

 

Ledyard graduated from Columbia College in 1830, and began practicing law in New York. When Lewis Cass was appointed Minister to France, Ledyard accompanied him to Paris, eventually becoming chargé d’affaires of the embassy."

 

"Ledyard returned to the United States in 1844 and moved to Detroit, where he was active in the city and managed Cass's property holdings.[2] He was one of the founders of the State Savings Bank, one of the original promoters of the Elmwood Cemetery, and was a member of the Board of Education."

 

"Ledyard was a Democrat, and was elected as a state senator in 1857.[1] However, when Lewis Cass was appointed Secretary of State under James Buchanan, Ledyard resigned his post in the legislature[3] and accompanied him to Washington, DC, and remained there until 1861,[1] briefly serving as assistant secretary of state.[2] Afterwards, he moved to Newport, Rhode Island, where he lived for the rest of his life. He raised funds for and was the first president of the Newport Hospital, and was the president of the Redwood Library in Newport."

 

"In 1839, Ledyard married Cass's daughter Matilda Frances Cass (1808–1898).[1] The couple had five children:[4][3][5]

Elizabeth Cass Ledyard (1840–1918), who married to Francis Wayland Goddard (1833–1889) in 1862.[6]

Henry Brockholst Ledyard, Jr. (1844–1921), a twin, who married to Mary R. L'Hommedieu (1847–1895). He was president of the Michigan Central Railroad and the Union Trust Company.[7][8]

Susan Livingston Ledyard (1844–1877), a twin, who married to Hamilton Bullock Tompkins (1843–1921) in 1876, and she died the next year.[9]

Lewis Cass Ledyard (1851–1932), who married to Gertrude Prince (1851–1905) in 1878.[10] After Gertrude's death in 1905, Lewis married Isabelle Henning Morris in 1906. He was a prominent New York lawyer in the firm Carter Ledyard & Milburn, president of the New York Public Library, and personal counsel to J. Pierpont Morgan.[11][12]

Matilda Spancer Ledyard (b. 1860).[5]

 

Henry Ledyard died June 7, 1880, in London, England, during a brief European visit"

 

"Through his eldest son Henry, he was the grandfather of Matilda Cass Ledyard (1871–1960), who married Baron Clemens von Ketteler (1853–1900), a German diplomat,[13][14] Henry B. Ledyard III (1875–1932), Augustus Canfield Ledyard (1877–1899), and Hugh Ledyard (1885–1951)."

 

Did anons catch it? NEWPOSRT R.I. where Alva Vanderbilt built Marble House and had another mansion Belcourt castle ^_^ We have our link, connection anons.

 

And this Elmwood cemetery, isn't that the same place where Lewis Cass is burried?

 

This son-in-law of Cass seem to be his RIGHT HAND MAN. He worked very closely with Cass everywhere Cass moved into gvt positions; even went with Cass to Paris.

Anonymous ID: 3a0efb May 1, 2019, 2 p.m. No.6385324   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5405

>>6384974

 

Of course Lewis Cass Ledyard caught my attention, there is a lot about this guy:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Cass_Ledyard

 

"Lewis Cass Ledyard was born in Detroit, Michigan, in 1851, to an established American family. He was the fourth of five children born to Henry Brockholst Ledyard (1812–1880) and Matilda Frances Cass (1808–1898). His father was a lawyer, diplomat, and mayor of Detroit.[1] Ledyard had three sisters and a brother, Henry Brockholst Ledyard, who became president of the Michigan Central Railroad and was a well-known philanthropist.

 

His paternal grandparents were Benjamin Ledyard (1779–1812), a prominent New York attorney, and Susan French (née Livingston) (1789–1864). His grandmother was the daughter of Revolutionary War Colonel and U.S. Supreme Court Justice Henry Brockholst Livingston (1757–1823) and granddaughter of the first governor of New Jersey William Livingston.[2]

 

His maternal grandfather, General Lewis Cass (1782–1866), had been governor of the Michigan Territory and a United States senator from the state of Michigan, and served as secretary of state under President James Buchanan. His maternal grandmother, Elizabeth (née Spencer) Cass, was the granddaughter of Major-General Joseph Spencer, who served in the American Revolution under George Washington. His aunt, Isabella Cass, was married Theodorus Marinus Roest van Limburg, Baron van Limburg (1806–1887), the Dutch Minister of Foreign Affairs.[1] His niece, Matilda Cass Ledyard (1871–1960), married Baron Clemens von Ketteler (1853–1900), a German diplomat."

 

"Ledyard, who had a personal interest in sailing, began his practice in admiralty law, but soon expanded into general practice. Following the passage of the Sherman Antitrust Act in 1890, Ledyard became a prominent adviser to the steel, petroleum, and tobacco industries. In 1911, when the United States Supreme Court ruled the American Tobacco Company to be in violation of the Sherman Act, Ledyard oversaw the company's corporate restructuring.[8] Ledyard also served as counsel to the United States Steel Corporation and the New York Stock Exchange, as well as personal counsel to John Pierpont Morgan"

 

"In addition to his professional career, Ledyard was a prominent figure in New York society and civic life. Along with John Lambert Cadwalader, he was a founder of the New York Public Library, and served as president of the institution. He served as a trustee of the Metropolitan Museum of Art and the Pierpont Morgan Library, and was a founding trustee of the Frick Collection.[9]

 

He served on a number of corporate boards including First National Bank of New York, United States Trust Company of New York, Great Northern Paper Company, American Express Company, Atlantic Mutual Insurance Company, National Park Bank, and several railroads.

Anonymous ID: 3a0efb May 1, 2019, 2:07 p.m. No.6385405   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6488 >>5309

>>6385324

 

From 1901 to 1902, Ledyard also served as Commodore of New York Yacht Club.[7] In 1914, he became a member of the New Hampshire Society of the Cincinnati by right of his descent from Captain Jonathan Cass who served during the American Revolution."

 

"On April 11, 1878, Ledyard was married to Gertrude Prince (1851–1905), the daughter of Col. William E. Prince.[9]

Lewis Cass Ledyard, Jr. (1879–1936), who married Ruth Langdon Emery (1881–1966).[11][12]

 

After his first wife's death in 1905, he sold their home at 2 East 87th Street and took an apartment in the Tiffany Apartment at 27 East 72nd Street. On June 6, 1906,[9] he married Frances Isabel Morris, the divorced wife of Thurlow Weed Barnes, brother of photographer Catharine Weed Barnes and grandson of publisher Thurlow Weed.[7] She was a daughter of John Albert Morris, a prominent figure in the sport of thoroughbred horse racing, and a sister of Alfred Hennen Morris and Dave Hennen Morris,[7] and had two daughters, Jean Morris Barnes (1893-1963),[13] who married Mansfield Ferry (1882–1938),[14] and Muriel Hennen Morris, who first married Barrington Moore Sr. (1883-1966), in 1910,[15][16] and later, Richard L. Stokes (1883-1957),[17][18] in 1929.[19]

 

Lewis Cass Ledyard died at his home in New York City on January 27, 1932.[5] He was buried at the Island Cemetery in Newport, Rhode Island. His services were conducted by Rev. Dr. George A. Buttrick and the Rev. Dr. Henry Sloane Coffin.[17] Among the many prominent guests at his funeral were J. Pierpont Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Jr., Myron C. Taylor, Herbert Satterlee, Henry Waters Taft, George W. Wickersham, Charles Culp Burlingham, Edward Julius Berwind, Morgan J. O'Brien, William Sloane Coffin Sr., Herbert Eustis Winlock, Arthur Curtiss James, Frank L. Polk, Cass Gilbert, Edwin H. Anderson, Harry M. Lydenberg, Keyes Metcalf, John G. Milburn, and Devereux Milburn.[20] His estate was valued in excess of $10,000,000 upon his death."

 

“Through his son, he was the grandfather of Lewis Cass Ledyard III (1911–1990),[22] Dorothy Cass Ledyard, who first married Hugh McLeod Fenwick (1905–1991) (he divorced her in 1931 to marry Millicent Vernon Hammond),[23] and later, Richard Allen Knight (d. 1947),[24][25] in 1933,[26] and Ruth Emery Ledyard, who married William de Rham, a great-great grandson of Stephen Whitney, in 1928,[27] and later, William Vernon Chickering Ruxton (1891–1958),[11] in 1932.[28] Her second marriage also ended in divorce in 1943, after the couple had been living at Wraxall Manor in Dorset, England”

 

This grandson of Lewis Cass is our LINK between Payseur and the Morgan and Rockefeller families. Look How LC Ledyard got into all the buninesses known to be the field of Payseur. And check out which precise civic involvement charities and help he got into. Not to forget the famous Yachting club which Vanderbilts, Morgans and Rockefellers are so fond of. This is it anons, this is our link from Payseur to Rockefellers and Morgans.

 

And don't forget, Lewis Cass is LC Ledyard's MATERNAL grandfather, meaning, it was passed on to a daughter of Payseur.

 

The only surviving son of Lewis Cass is like a ghost, as if he never existed. I hope anons can dig and find anything about his son. But if no one can, then I think the succession line passed onto the daughters at this stage of history. I was wondering if we can compare the names of the daughers husbands and the grandchildren to the list in Springmeier's book? If we find a match somewhere, it would be a bombshell. He is so important for both founders of the Federal Reserve, that they attended his funeral ^^ And of course, he was buried in Newport, R.I. ^^

Notice the names as well anons, Dorothy, McLeod etc ^_^

 

On this, I’m going to wish anons a good evening, I’m going to stop here for tonight. I hope this Payseur guy didn’t marry twice under 2 names, because it’s going to be totally a wild dig if it turned out he did marry twice.