Has it occurred to anyone that maybe THOMASAnon was ASKED to drop his research here? Do you think he likes taking your insults? Do you think he is doing this for his health? He is obviously knowledgeable in his area of expertise…..is it possible that you are MEANT to read his drops all over the place. Sometimes you Autists with your "gifted" abilities can be so daft and wholeheartedly self-centered. Try sitting back and learning something. You don't always have to have your hand on the ball….
DON'T you get it? ThomasAnon has been "digging" his WHOLE LIFE. He is a researcher. He is leading us to the solutions we need to know. I've learned more in a week about Q than I did in the past year. YOU need to lurk more and let him steam-roll the truth to us.
BOARD OWNER - I read all the boards. This one is BY FAR the most on track and spitting truths than ANY OTHER BOARDS. Hands down. The collection of three "specialists" here we could NEVER pay enough for this knowledge. DROP whatever boards are taking up your time and help us keep this board open. There are plenty of us lurking and learning and putting the pieces together.
For anyone paying close attention, it is mind-boggling that you are making these comments. Are you really that full of yourself that you cannot see when a true intellect is on board here? Immerse himself in the board? He has so much to offer. Hopefully he will fill this thread and you will see what a gold-mine this is going to be.
I am literally so PISSED right now. I finally found a place where relevant information is posted and you are chasing away ThomasAnon and HAnon. For what? Knowing too much?
What are you, the KING Anon? You are telling a 70 year old Archeologist (Historian, Anthropologist) to "lurk more" and sharpen his digging skill? Who are you?
He left the Symbols thread because some young autist wanted to be disrespectful, argumentative and downright rude. He came here to drop his "research" and to make connection with others who want to focus on research and not on boobs, arguments, insults and shilling.
The quality of his work on the prior board and now on this board is FAR ABOVE anything that I've found anywhere else. It is almost like he is purposely here to make the connections for us because the supposedly "brilliant" autists are distracted by their own self-importance and their back-biting nature.
This information is EXACTLY what Q and POTUS were hoping would come out of this whole project and the AUTISTs have FAILED.
Let's let the professionals handle it now so that some of us can actually get caught up and help digging properly. I think the whole idea is for us to be ready to help others understand the truth about our history and make connections to events and societies working behind the scenes.
BOARD OWNER, I implore you to open this board up and welcome anyone with solid information to offer. ThomasAnon and HAnon have already started to make connections with each other……..right here on the board and you are letting some uneducated, disrespectful little twits run them off to other boards where all of us have to deal with imbiciles who are too caught up with what they think they know AND have tempers that are incompatible with common decency and conversation.
It is MORE THAN CLEAR that ThomasAnon is kind and decent and willing to politely banter and inform and consider. He is coming to the table with information to share. Please stop INSULTING HIM and give him a chance to do what he does best. PLEASE.
Again, who is to say that he is not here to fill in the blanks before shit goes down? He seems to have a deeper working knowledge of POTUS' agenda than anyone I've followed, with the exception of Q. Go back to his posts on the SYMBOLS board and read back through his posts since January…… Don't you think it is at least worth it to hear him out and try to keep the wolves away?
LAnon
And by-the-way all you holier than though Anons who dismiss information from wikipedia……they are using that site because most of the people on these boards are actually kinda stupid and dense and wikipedia speaks down to a general audience.
I would bet if they quoted the textbooks they've written that it would be over most people's heads….THINK!
Webster Groves' location on the Pacific Railroad line led to its development as a suburb.
As a suburban municipality, Webster Groves has its origins as five separate communities along adjacent railroad lines.
Masonic Lodge next to city hall & two blocks to Epworth Child & Family Services/Epworth School for Girls and 5 blocks to Webster University
A railroad line runs between the masonic hall and the school for troubled girls
related?
This smacks of censorship. Fucking ridiculous actually. Why is the BO/BV afraid of this information? Why not live and let live? I thought this was a free speech board…….guess not.
Thank you. A voice of reason.
Shutting down this thread makes NO SENSE unless we are over the target and need to be silenced!
Call for researchers back to this board……thomasanon, Hanon, savatsanon and others.
Let's fill this bread, filter the shills and show the BO/BV that it is worth unlocking. We were making such strides…
Never, Never, Never Give Up
Can we at least try to save some lives…….
402 currently missing juveniles in MO
https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/CJ51/Search?page=1&county=&personType=J
One neighborhood over from where? St. Louis? where Veiled Prophet is located or are we back to Webster Groves?
Which railroad? There are two running approx parallel around Webster Groves….
Along the Railroad around Webster Groves
St. Peter Cemetery of Kirkwood
Masonic Lodge of Kirkwood #484
Kirkwood Historical Society?
Kirkwood Police Dept.
Kirkwood Train Station
Eliot Unitarian Chapel ?
Container truck depot next to train track-unmarked
Ursuline Sisters of Central Province
Westborough Country Club
Mary Queen of Peace School
Algonquin Country Club
Webster Groves Masonic Lodge #84, next to city hall
Epworth Children & Family Services - Troubled Girl's School
Walter Ambrose Family Center
Webster University
These are worth looking into along one of the railroad tracks running through Webster Groves
There is also a "Y" in the flag
BRAVOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> following and fascinated
Thank you
Looks like a fleur de lys on its side to me
Something about the photos of Edward VIII with the Nazis is unsettling and I don't mean the obvious. It almost looks like he is overseeing or being briefed about them. He doesn't look like he is just checking things out…he looks like he may be "in charge". The body language in the photos makes me think that Hitler is reporting to him.
Now, my history is not that deep on WWII. And a theory that Edward VIII abdicated the throne to his brother to, in fact, be the King of all Europe once the Nazis took over might be quickly shot down because of the countries who acquiesced to the Nazis with out much of a fight and the countries that ALLIED to take them out.
If Churchill coaxed him to abdicate and then coaxed the US (originally supporting the Nazis in many ways) to assist with taking them out then my theory makes no sense. I need to do a dive into the events surrounding WWII again.
I'm rambling…..but could this be the black-eye clan making a play for all of Europe through the Nazi movement? We know the Windsors are of German lineage….
If this theory is really stupid. Try not to beat me up too much. I'm not used to the ridicule that 8chan is known for, but I'll try to have a thick skin. I'm not wed to the idea and am very good at being wrong. I just want to help.
Could this be the planning for a new palace?
I'll stop dropping about this until I get some feedback. I don't want to waste the bread.
William Anthony Furness
2nd Viscount Furness
31.III.1929 - 1.V.1995
When he succeeded to his viscountcy in 1940, at the age of 11, Lord Furness became known as the richest little boy in England. It was an epithet that brought him more than his fair share of fortune hunters. They soon disappeared when I told them all the money was in trust and there was absolutely no provision for a wife, he said.
(Well then….who did it go to?)
Tony Furness only came into the title because his elder half-brother Dick was killed in action at Arras (and awarded a posthumous VC). His mother, Thelma Morgan, was an American society beauty and bit-part film actress whose twin sister Gloria had married into the Vanderbilt family.
(Thelma was born first- Morgan Family)
Thelma was the second wife of Marmaduke, first Viscount Furness, chairman of the Furness Withy shipping line and 20 years her senior. Tony was their only child.
It was frequently rumoured that he was the illegitimate son of the Prince of Wales, with whom Thelma had a long and celebrated affair,
(To date the Prince she must have had the right bloodline)
but this is something he always denied and indeed Furness bore a striking resemblance to his grandfather, the founder of the Furness shipping line.
When he was four his parents divorced and Tony never again set foot inside one of his father's houses.
(Because it was not his father? or the seed had been planted and he was no longer needed for the heir?)
He was educated first in England, then in California, where he got to know many of the child stars including Elizabeth Taylor, Roddy McDowall and Shirley Temple. But his English accent, poor health (for most of his life he suffered from diabetes, had problems with his eyes and was never permitted to drive a car), his dislike of sport and his mother's glamorous Hollywood lifestyle set him apart and created a sense of isolation and of loneliness he was never entirely to lose.
At 21, faced with a choice between settling in the United States or entering the House of Lords, he chose the Lords as the place where his duty lay. He volunteered for a number of Select Committees and took an active role in the work of the Inter- Parliamentary Union. Millions have had cause to thank him for sponsoring the Bill which permits travellers who have gone through customs to have a drink out of hours.
Away from the Lords he worked for American Express and the wine merchant Percy Fox. Then, together with the actor Alan Badel, he formed Furndel Productions which put on a number of interesting, but financially disastrous, plays in the West End including Ulysses in Nighttown with Zero Mostel (1959), and James Saunders's first stage play, The Ark (1959).
A visit to Mongolia to negotiate a possible London trip for the Mongolian National Theatre (a tour which never happened) led to his forming the Anglo-Mongolian Society in 1963 and, indirectly, to Mongolia's being recognised by the British government.
While at school he had become a convert to Catholicism and through Westminster Cathedral worked for a number of Catholic charities. When rising production costs and tax demands (as his money was in trust, Furness could not benefit from tax-mitigation schemes and at one point he was paying 98 per cent of his entire income to the Inland Revenue)
(Was his money in trust because it needed to pass to the female heir?)
brought an end to his theatrical career, he contemplated entering the priesthood, but was advised against it. Instead, he decided to devote himself full-time to the religious order the Knights of Malta and went to live in Martigny, Switzerland, close to the Augustinian community of St Maurice.
Tony Furness was a restless man, never entirely at ease with the life into which he was born. He had many acquaintances but few close friends.
(Was he cold and unfeeling?)
When he asked me to help write his autobiography, it soon became clear that he was not really interested in seeing a finished book, only in having someone to talk to. His only proposal of marriage, made when young,
(He would have been 18 when Hillary was born)
was rejected, and he subsequently took a vow of celibacy.
(Did he do this in order to not have any "legitimate" children?)
The title dies with him.
William Anthony Furness, businessman and theatrical producer: born Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire 31 March 1929; succeeded 1940 as second Viscount Furness; died 1 May 1995.
A request has been made to Serial Brain
Recommended by Anon on SerialBrain2 reddit thread regarding the Arch:
Masonic Astronomy and Saint Louis' Gateway Arch
http://www.edkohout.com/mundane/arch-1.html
The Modern Masonic Monument
One of the most awe-inspiring monuments in the USA is the Gateway Arch in St. Louis, Missouri. Built in the early 1960's, this towering structure was an engineering feat of no small order; to this day it is the tallest monument in America, and second only to the Eiffel Tower in Paris in height. Standing on the grounds of the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial, located on the riverfront of downtown St. Louis, this elegant steel glissade dominates the skyline of the oldest European city in the Midwest. Visitors from around the world marvel at the grandeur of this mega-structure of steel. When approaching St. Louis from Illinois over the Mississippi river, the Arch stands out as a giant. The design is timeless in its simplicity, regal in its play on light, modern in its form, but perhaps the thing I recall most about how it made me feel when I first saw it as a youngster was the playful sense of comfort that it suggested to me - strength of steel cast into a delicate curve of harmless beauty.
Beyond this technological and architectural triumph lies a monument tied to a much deeper symbolic setting that connects Thomas Jefferson, westward expansion, and the Louisiana Purchase into a wider historic reality that is Masonic in both spirit and measure. Great monuments of this stature tell us more than what is visible on the surface; they also represent "where" and "when" we are – both physically on the face of the Earth as well as in our cultural evolution – and thus are testaments to the values of our society's political craftsmen. As we will see, this monument is a marker of both time and space, anchored into the ground by visionaries that have kept a sacred geometric and geophysical astrology alive for centuries in hopes of freeing mankind of tyrrany and opression.
Envisioned and designed by architect Eero Saarinen in 1947, it ended up being the final construction project of his brilliant career. When asked why he thought an arch would be a good symbol for the JNEM, he said,
"The major concern here was to create a monument which would have lasting significance and would be a landmark of our time. An absolutely simple shape – such as the Egyptian pyramids or obelisks – seemed to be the basis of the great memorials that have kept their significance and dignity across time. Neither an obelisk nor a rectangular box nor a dome seemed right on this site or for this purpose. But here, at the edge of the Mississippi River, a great arch did seem right. The arch could be a triumphal arch for our age as the triumphal arches of classical antiquity were for theirs."
This statement will seem more symbolic after we analyze the astrology, geometry, and numerology surrounding the design construction of this alloy giant. Mr. Saarinen, as any other artist, drew inspiration from somewhere. After all, this was not the first stand-alone arch in the history of man. The Brandenburg Gate comes to mind, as does the Arc d'Triomphe in France. These arches are variations based upon the original Roman Arch design, which was borne more out of practicality than symbolic gesture. Arches were for architects the most stable and economic form for construction of large stone edifices, be they simple aqueducts or larger Cathedrals. The shape allows itself to support its own weight while allowing large space for inhabitants underneath, with relatively little material.
Forms in Freemasonry: Arch, Solstice, Luminaries, and Cardinal Points
The shape of the Gateway arch is that of a catenary curve, and not a parabola as most people assume. A catenary curve by definition is the shape of a length of hanging chain. This term is also applied to the electrical lines that are suspended above electric train cars, but these lines are not technically catenaries. Nonetheless, the shape of the Gateway Arch is a perfect catenary, and this is perhaps the strongest kind of arch in terms of supporting itself.
Alfred E. Waite, in his New Encyclopedia of Freemasorny, speaks of the Catenarian Arch:
"There are two points from which this form of arch can be approached; the first is that of architecture, and it is proverbial in this respect that there is no curve in Masonry which approaches the catenary in strength; as regards the second, it is summarised in the simple statement that in its due and proper arrangement every Royal Arch Chapter approaches as nearly as possible the form of a catenarian arch. Of all that arises herefrom and belongs hereto it is not possible to speak: the motto is: Come and See. The word catenarius signifies chained or linked."1
There exists in Freemasonry the concept of the Royal Arch of Heaven, which is based upon astrological principles. In 1949, George Steinmetz wrote of the Royal Arch:
"Without some knowledge of astrology it is impossible for any one to fully understand the symbology of the Royal Arch degree, or for that matter Freemasonry, for it is replete with astrological references."2
Robert Hewitt Brown's Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy depicts his understanding of the Royal Arch with this next image. Brown gives the basic idea of the concept of the Royal Arch, but in some ways the particulars of the graphic are misleading, compared to what Brown relays about the graphic:
"The accompanying diagram of the Royal Arch is but a geometrical projection, and, therefore, gives nothing more than the relative positions of the various constellations and signs of the Royal Arch. The summer solstice is represented as the key-stone of the arch, and has the astronomical sign of the sun inscribed upon it, showing that the 21st of June the sun is exalted to the summit of the arch."3
A better rendition of the meaning of the keystone would be to have only the first 6 signs of the zodiac in a semi-arc, and to place the Sun's symbol at the cusp of Gemini/Cancer:
Figure 4
In pure astronomical terms, the Royal Arch is simply the Sun's ingress into Cancer, where it attains the highest declination of its journey through the zodiac. Masonic symbolism throughout the craft pays reverence to the Sun as the giver of life, and light, to mankind and to the world; its proper exalted spot is therefore where it is most elevated, and this is June 21st in our calendar.
Furthermore, this exalted point of 0° Cancer symbolically represents the gateway of life from the etheric realms into the material world. This concept is nothing unique to Masonry, as it was significant in ancient cosmologies, and certainly the ancient Egyptians.
sorry text is so jam-packed together…still learning how to post here.
How would we determine which obelisks are relevant? There are obelisks everywhere……
Interesting to note:
Caves of St. Louis
The Caves of St. Louis, Missouri, USA, have been important in the economic development of the city. St. Louis was built upon a complex of natural caves which were once used for the lagering of beer by early German immigrant brewers. Caves are naturally cool, which was especially attractive to brewers before the advent of refrigeration.[1]
Breweries
Several breweries were built atop these natural caves, which were altered to suit their purposes. Stone arches and brick ceilings prevented water seepage and uneven cave floors were paved with brick. In addition to being used for the storage and lagering of beer, such naturally cool places were sometimes employed as beer gardens, places for entertainment.
John Adam Lemp, coming to St. Louis from Germany in 1838, started a brewery using natural caves for refrigeration. His son William J. Lemp took over the business and built the Lemp Brewery industrial complex which still stands in St. Louis.[2] The Lemp Mansion was constructed by the Lemp Family and included an underground tunnel through the natural cave system leading to the Lemp Brewery. The Lemp Family would use this tunnel to go to work.[2]
Underground Railroad
An oral tradition in St. Louis links the cave system with the Underground Railroad. According to this tradition a tunnel behind the house at 3314 Lemp Avenue was used as a secret entrance to the caves. One entrance to the caves opens near the Mississippi River, where the slaves could make their way to freedom.[3]
Cherokee Caves[edit]
Cherokee Caves was one attempt to turn the caves near the Lemp Brewery into a commercial attraction. They were closed and the site was demolished to make way for the construction of Interstate 55.[4] In January 2019, the Missouri Speleological Survey printed the History of Lemp Brewery Caverns and Cherokee Cave.
Entrances
Old caves were often filled with rubble from the buildings above them when they were demolished. Therefore, there may be many homes and houses currently built above entrances to the old system of caves which have since been filled in with rubble. The Lemp caves or Cherokee caves still exist. The original cave was around 24,000 feet walkable. After the construction of Interstate 55 there were about 22,000 feet of the cave remaining, but not open to the public.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caves_of_St._Louis#Entrances
Spotlight: Caves, tunnels run rampant under St. Louis ground
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/columns/joe-holleman/spotlight-caves-tunnels-run-rampant-under-st-louis-ground/article_e3afa39f-285b-5b60-ac70-ceb068174b12.html
Caves dominate underground in St. Louis
https://www.stltoday.com/suburban-journals/caves-dominate-underground-in-st-louis/article_73cd82d4-e4c1-5f1e-9d8c-a0ffa3486966.html
Under Our Feet: Exploring The Tunnels & Caverns Upon Which St. Louis Was Built
https://mystlcity.com/stl-tunnels/
Meanwhile, under the sidewalks of Downtown, the steam loop snakes its way around to a multitude of skyscrapers, public buildings and stadiums. Originally an idea proposed to provide heat and hot water for the new courthouses and civic buildings around City Hall, the steam loop still operates, albeit with a different power source. Originally the Municipal Services Building contained a power plant that fueled the steam loop, but since its closure, the historic Ashley Street Power Plant on the North Riverfront provides the steam in the expanded loop.
Down on the Riverfront, under what is now the Gateway Arch, lies a remnant of the bustling levee that once served as the front door of St. Louis. Back before the Riverfront was cleared of all of its building except the Old Cathedral, a long, elevated train track passed through the area on a giant trestle. Powerful railroad interests refused to budge, and for a long time, it was rumored that the train trestle would remain on the Riverfront, holding up construction of the future Jefferson National Expansion Memorial. But a last second intervention by President Franklin Roosevelt allowed for the placement of the train tracks in a tunnel that passes under the Gateway Arch. Visitors can still catch a glimpse of freight trains as they pass by openings in the tunnel north and south of the Arch.
I went back to the beginning and am taking another look at all drops (Symbols threads and here). I keep stumbling upon issues for later. Where should I look NOW? How can I help?
A sewage tunnel was built underneath River des Peres from Washington University in St. Louis, through Forest Park (where the zoo is) and ultimately connecting to ONE of the Old Mill Creek sewer lines (The Old Mill Creek-1860 & the New Mill Creek-early 20th century) lines running underneath what was once Mill Chouteau and out to the Mississippi river. Mill Creek Valley was at one time dammed to create a park but it turned into a large sewer which was ultimately drained and covered over and was then used as a railyard and a neighborhood for African Americans.
The sewers are 18x20 feet in size with arched tunnels and today has very little water flow.
AND THE NEW MASONIC TEMPLE of St. Louis, built in 1929 borders Forest Park to the North along Lindell Blvd.
https://mystlcity.com/stl-tunnels/
St. Louis hides its sewers below the surface of its streets, but in the past, much of its largest tunnels were open-air.
Right down the central corridor, underneath the train tracks and Highway 40 lies another lost stream, the Mill Creek Valley. Originally dammed to create a small flour mill built by Auguste Chouteau. Choteau’s Lake, behind the mill, served as the recreational area for early St. Louis. Unfortunately, as the city grew, pollution ruined the pond and eventually it was drained and covered over with a massive sewer. But Mill Creek Valley lives on as the name of a thriving, culturally rich African American neighborhood demolished after World War II.
http://preservationresearch.com/infrastructure/the-harnessed-channel-how-the-river-des-peres-became-a-sewer/
Along the southwest edge of the city of St. Louis, Missouri runs a six-mile curve of what appears to be a river with paved banks. This river is usually dry and rarely filled to even half its capacity. Covered in rip-rap and white stones along this six miles, the banks form a visual boundary of the city limits — although the actual city line is several hundred yards west. Still, the moat-like river creates an effective border between the middle-class parts of the county and city that occupy either side of it. Yet this river actually unites them, because it carries away all of their wasted water and, deep below its channel, their sewage. The river is the River Des Peres, a harnessed channel that was transformed from a natural waterway into a massive civil engineering project in the early twentieth century.
Of course, the River Des Peres is not simply a deep gorge that carries away waste water from the city and its inner suburbs. In fact, it now lies almost completely underground and is not visible at all. In a 1988 booklet published by the Metropolitan Sewer District (MSD), the quasi-governmental agency that has controlled the river since 1956, an anonymous author writes that “the rocky banks of the River Des Peres form a landmark which nearly every St. Louisan recognizes, but few understand.” Few Saint Louisans realize that its 18 miles extend along over half of the city’s western edge, covering a drainage area of 115 square miles and serving a population of over 535,000 people. It enters the city at Skinker Boulevard and Vernon Avenue at the University City limits and then winds its way through Forest Park and into the familiar open section that drains into the Mississippi River. Along the way, it carries both storm water and sewage in separate pipes with connections to most major city and inner-suburban trunk sewers. It is the backbone of the St. Louis sewer system.
Very few residents recognize that the River Des Peres became the backbone of the St. Louis sewer system by having its natural state completely rebuilt so that none of its original features remain. No living person likely remembers the days when all of it was an open and wild, albeit polluted, waterway that St. Louisans happened to dump sewage into. And few accounts describe its earlier incarnation as a pure waterway far from the French settlements on the Mississippi River. In those days, the idea of the River Des Peres becoming one of the largest regional civil engineering projects in the Midwest would have seemed strange. Yet St. Louisans slowly converted the small river into their largest sewer over the course of more than a hundred years, so most of the changes were hardly noticed until the river was already irreversibly controlled by engineers looking to drain unwanted materials from the young city of St. Louis.
Today, the River Des Peres is a complicated and vital part of the second nature that keeps the Saint Louis urban area healthy for its human population. The river itself has, for the most part, been successfully controlled. If the Metropolitan Sewer District replaced the River Des Peres sewer with another one and decided to let the river return, most likely the channel would still only occasionally fill with rainwater. The channel has no source, because the natural ponds and wetlands in St. Louis County that fed it have also been turned into parts of the area’s sewer system. Plans to restore its above-ground flow through Forest Park are complete, but they rely on mechanical pumps to regulate flow and maintain a high water level. Notably, this “restored” section is not connected to the channels under the park.
https://stlouiscnr.com/stl_feature/subterranean_st_louis/
Monsanto deceiving the public, funding Saint Louis Zoo insectarium and education center
Sunday, May 26, 2013 by: Lance Johnson
https://www.naturalnews.com/040494_Monsanto_honey_bees_public_deception.html#
NaturalNews) Monsanto, the biotech giant who genetically alters seed, is now using its millions of dollars of excess profit to install education centers in public zoos. In an attempt to appear eco-friendly and environmentally-conscious, Monsanto is funding an education center at the Saint Louis zoo to accompany their new "Monsanto Insectarium," which is already educating the public about insects and the ecosystem.
In utter hypocrisy, this Monsanto insectarium appears to be all about protecting bees, beetles, and other insects that play an important role in the environment.
Anyone familiar with Monsanto and their Roundup pesticides, know that Monsanto's chemicals are the very thing ravaging the ecosystem. Their chemicals kill off beetle and grasshopper populations and are contributing to the death of entire bee colonies. However, their insect kingdom at the Saint Louis zoo paints a much different picture of themselves.
Some downtown St. Louis sculpture, interesting…….
I am familiar with these books…as my children read them and loved them. I might have them hanging around here somewhere. I definitely think you are on to something.
Architect for Gateway Arch was CIA
Eero Saarinen: A Place in Architectural History
eero-saarinen-2.jpg
Eero Saarinen
The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) was composed of elite, highly intelligent, ambitious patriots. Many were Ivy-league educated, all accomplished in their own right. However, sprinkled throughout the service were a handful of OSSers who became very well-known and who achieved great fame. Celebrities such as chef Julia Child, baseball catcher Moe Berg, and actor Sterling Hayden all worked for the wartime OSS.
Counted among their ranks is Eero Saarinen (pronounced air-oh), the prodigious Finnish American architect and industrial designer known for his neo-futuristic style. He lent his services to the spy agency before achieving world-wide fame as one of the masters of American 20th-century architecture. Saarinen was a prolific architect who designed national memorials, corporate campuses, and airport terminals. His most widely recognized design is the iconic Gateway Arch in St. Louis, MO, the tallest man-made national monument in the United States.
https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2017-featured-story-archive/eero-saarinen-a-place-in-architectural-history.html
I began a search into hotels and hit this first…….
Obama requests second helping from Pi (Pizza) in St. Louis
By Kelsey Volkmann –
Apr 8, 2009, 9:43am CDT Updated Apr 8, 2009, 7:11pm EDT
During a campaign stop last fall in St. Louis, President Barack Obama said he loved the pizza from Pi on the Delmar Loop.
He loved it so much that he wants seconds. So he’s invited Pi’s owners to the White House to make some more pies.
Sommers' restaurant has garnered some attention from other celebrities as well. He said he was busy Wednesday delivering pizzas to actor George Clooney and the cast and crew of "Up in the Air," which are still filming in St. Louis.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2009/04/06/daily40.html
Their logo is Pi and they have a visual of an obelisk with pyramid and all-seeing eye on top. There is also a placemat of a baby on a table. The site wont let me copy/paste the pics.
http://pi-pizza.com/
**It's all a facade picture in men's bathroom
Cannot find any items listed in the time-capsule, only signatures of primarily school children.
A time capsule was welded into the top.
ON OCT. 27, 1965, officials placed the lid on a long metal box. Inside, written on seven bundles wrapped in foil and closed with ribbon and the city’s seal, were the signatures of 762,000 St. Louisans, most of them schoolchildren. The next day, those kids watched as the Arch keystone was hoisted into place. “Children, when they grow up and have their own families, will be able to point to the Arch and say their names are in it,” said the chair of the topping out committee.
https://sites.stlmag.com/arch/
https://draxe.com/monsanto-lawsuit/
Monsanto Lawsuit: Case Details
On August 9, 2018, a San Francisco jury found Monsanto liable in the first of more than 800 cancer-patient cases against the agricultural giant. Dewayne Johnson, 46, was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, a term that’s used to describe a group of cancers that develop in the lymphocytes, or white blood cells that make up the immune system. His case was the first to go to court because of his terminal condition, which granted him an expedited trial.
Four years after developing a bad rash, Johnson, a former school groundskeeper and pest control manager, was diagnosed with this life-threatening form of cancer. Johnson said he applied Roundup to the grounds of a San Francisco school 20 to 30 times per year. He argued that the glyphosate-based herbicide in the weedkiller Roundup is what likely caused the disease. And his lawyers argued that Monsanto failed to warn consumers about the risks of its product.
Monsanto Center
Research Facility of the Missouri Botanical Garden
http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/media/fact-pages/monsanto-center.aspx
The Monsanto Center, the Missouri Botanical Garden’s research center, opened in 1998 and houses the Garden’s Science and Conservation Division, one of the world’s most active and important scientific research operations. The center also houses a portion of the Garden’s herbarium of over 6 million plant specimens and its highly valued research library. In addition to a staff of more than 150 research scientists, associates and graduate students, hundreds of American and foreign scientists conduct short and long-term botanical research projects here each year.
https://monsanto.com/careers/who-we-hire/research-careers/
Monsanto’s Technology Organization, is a multi-functional, multi-crop organization comprised of four broad areas:
Biotechnology – is responsible for the discovery, development, and integration of novel genes into superior hybrids and varieties developed by Breeding to create new traits such as herbicide tolerance, insect resistance, drought tolerance, higher yield and increased nutrition. The team also develops new molecular technologies that allow Monsanto to better analyze seeds to increase the efficiency of our breeding programs.
Breeding – is responsible for developing superior hybrids and varieties that possess desirable characteristics such as higher yield potential, better disease resistance and drought tolerance. The team has pushed the boundaries of breeding practices through advanced molecular technologies, such as marker assisted selection, to achieve these goals.
Regulatory – is responsible for conducting scientific studies to prove the safety and effectiveness of our technology in order to obtain the necessary government approvals globally to launch our products.
Chemistry – is responsible for developing our weed management solutions and seed treatments to protect farmers’ crops. This team is also responsible for the development and promotion of agronomic practice improvements for enhanced yield potential and sustainability.
These areas collaborate to create the products in our R&D pipeline, which has a proven track record of creating products that are ground breaking, first to market and profitable.
http://gmo-awareness.com/2011/05/12/monsanto-dirty-dozen/
"When you take a moment to reflect on the history of product development at Monsanto, what do you find? Here are twelve products that Monsanto has brought to market. See if you can spot the pattern…"
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Saccharin
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PCB’s
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Polystyrene
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Atom bomb and nuclear weapons
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DDT
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Dioxin
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Agent orange
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Petroleum based fertilizer
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Roundup
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Aspartame
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Bovine Growth Hormone
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Genetically modified crops
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Terminator seeds
https://www.organicconsumers.org/old_articles/Toxic/monsanto_pcbs.php
Monsanto Fined $700 Million for Poisoning People with PCBs
Lawyers for more than 20,000 plaintiffs in federal and state trials over PCB pollution in Anniston reached an agreement Wednesday with the companies accused of chemical contamination.
The $700 million settlement, announced in federal district court in Birmingham, would resolve all outstanding Anniston PCB litigation.
http://leaksource.info/2013/01/29/monsanto-fined-93-million-for-agent-orange-pollution/
Yet another similar lawsuit regarding Monsanto as the defendant has taken place, and this time it’s coughing up big bucks to the many plaintiffs.
On Friday, a judge finally settled a lawsuit against Monsanto that was originally litigated in the 80’s and was followed up again in 2008. After years of court battles, thousands of West Virginia residents now are jubilant over the court ruling.
Last February, a $93 million settlement was contrived after WV residents complained about Monsanto contaminating their community with burning waste from Agent Orange production.
Now almost a year after, the corporation agreed to pay $84 million for medical monitoring as well as $9 million for the clean up of 4,500 homes. Additionally, Monsanto accepted to pay for the legal fees as well.
https://usrtk.org/monsanto-papers/
Roundup (Glyphosate) Cancer Cases: Key Documents & Analysis
More than 11,000 people have filed suit against Monsanto Company (now Bayer) alleging that exposure to Roundup herbicide caused them or their loved ones to develop non-Hodgkin lymphoma, and that Monsanto covered up the risks. As part of the discovery process, Monsanto has had to turn over millions of pages of its internal records. We are posting these Monsanto Papers as they become available here.
FEDERAL COURT – Update April 4, 2019- Judge Vince Chhabria is vacating the May trial date set for Stevick v. Monsanto and is ordering Bayer/Monsanto to go into mediation with plaintiffs’ attorneys.
More than 800 lawsuits are pending in U.S. District Court in San Francisco. The cases have been combined for handling as multidistrict litigation (MDL) under Judge Vince Chhabria. The lead case is 3:16-md-02741-VC and the first trial, the case of Edwin Hardeman V. Monsanto, began Feb. 25, 2019. The judge approved a motion by Monsanto to bifurcate the trial, limiting evidence jurors heard during a first phase to causation only. On March 19 a unanimous jury decision handed a first-round victory to Hardeman, as the six jury members found that Hardeman’s exposure to Roundup was a “substantial factor” in causing his non-Hodgkin lymphoma. On March 27, the jury returned a verdict of approximately $80 million, including punitive damages of $75 million.
https://www.riverfronttimes.com/stlouis/notes-from-the-underground/Content?oid=2455650
Notes from the Underground
Urban spelunkers plunge deep to find mysteries waiting to be explored
Both lifelong St. Louis residents in their mid-twenties, Rob and Brian poke through the nooks and crannies of a secret city — roaming MetroLink tunnels, romping about roach-infested warehouses and footslogging through pigeon dung inside the stone bowels of the Eads Bridge.
He's not the only one, as the city's legendary caves have long been a magnet for curious adventurers. A vast underground world exists in St. Louis: Manhole covers conceal dry sewers, doorways lead to hidden tunnels, and long-shuttered breweries yield to large caves.
On this Saturday night, Casey, Chris and Matt are drinking Scotch ale after returning from their tour of the Lemp Cave. Minneapolis' Action Squad has come to St. Louis to join them. The Squad needed a guide and enlisted local help via the online Urban Exploration Resources (www.uer.ca), which features forums with information, advice and opinions from enthusiasts worldwide.
Underground Ozarks (www.undergroundozarks.com) is Missouri's urban exploration clearinghouse, operated by a man with the handle White Rabbit. His forums feature discussions of Missouri landmarks — the 8th Street Tunnel in Kansas City, River Roads Mall in Bridgeton, the Messiah Project Mill in Springfield — and stunning galleries documenting the decay of the post-industrial Midwest.
One group of photos shows a recent visit to south city's old Falstaff Brewery, which sits above a small cave once used for beer storage. White Rabbit and his team are shown, faces pixelated to prevent identification, roaming the complex
>>621440
Washington University, St. Louis
Best Caves
Lemp Brewery
Located directly underneath the Lemp Brewery complex at the corner of South Broadway and Lemp Street, the Lemp cave system was once part of the larger Cherokee Caves, a natural complex that stretched throughout South City. In the mid-19th century, beer baron Adam Lemp, needing a way to naturally refrigerate his lager beer, harnessed the coolness of the caves and transformed them into a series of wild and wonderful semi-Gothic tunnels and dungeons, most of which still retain a striking similarity to how they appeared a century-and-a-half ago.
"The buildings have vaults," says Shashi Palamand – who, along with his father, Rao Palamand, owns the Lemp Brewery complex – "which were part of the underground system, but (Lemp) changed them for his own purposes and made beautiful-looking vaults. From the brewhouse, you could come down through the elevator. There was a little mining trolley that he used to have going around.
There's another entrance from the bottling plant, and he would store all the beer in there and then throughout the whole area and in the vaults. They're deep underneath the buildings. Almost every building is connected by either the caves, or tunnels which he built, or caves that he turned into tunnels by widening them.
https://www.riverfronttimes.com/stlouis/best-caves/BestOf?oid=2508008
Lemp Brewery
House of the Occult
There is an all new level of FEAR coming to St Louis Fall 2018 called House of Occult at Lemp Brewery.
This will be the scariest new attraction in St Louis where victims must be prepared to face their mortality! The Abyss is an EXTREME SCREAM haunted house, no fake monsters, no animations, simply you facing your fears HEAD ON!
Are you brave enough to walk down a set of stairs that spirals downward into THE ABYSS the darkest place on EARTH?
Are you ready to travel over a 100 feet underground in subterranean caves and tunnels? Are you ready to go into a place so dark, so deep underground that NO ONE CAN HEAR YOUR SCREAMS?
No one will save you, no one will help you, no one will attempt to help you escape the sheer panic and sense of being helplessness as you find yourself totally lost in The House e of Occult at Lemp Brewery. You are in a dark, damp and very cold place deep underground where albino creatures are lurking around every turn ready to make you disappear? How many will enter, how many will survive, how many will beg us to take them out? We warn you DO NOT ENTER unless you are physically and mentally prepared to EXPERIENCE AN EXTREME SCREAM haunted house deep underground at Lemp Brewery.
https://www.lemphauntedhouse.com/scariest-haunted-house-on-earth-the-abyss-inside-lemp-brewery
The Fascinating History of the Haunted Lemp Mansion
In the 19th century, the Lemp family was practically royalty in St. Louis, Missouri. John Adam Lemp had introduced lager beer to St. Louis in 1838 with the opening of his brewery in what is now Benton Park, and although his more famous rival, Anheuser-Busch, would eventually overtake Lemp beer in nationwide sales in the 1880s, Lemp outsold A-B in St. Louis.
The family bought a beautiful mansion near the Brewery, at 3322 South 13th Street (now DeMenil Place). The family married well, particularly William Lemp Jr., who married Lillian Handlan, a railroad supply heiress called the “Lavender Lady” because of her preference for that color; her horses’ harnesses were even adorned in that particular shade. Their divorce 10 years after they were married was the talk of the town and scandal of the decade.
https://theculturetrip.com/north-america/usa/missouri/articles/the-fascinating-history-of-the-haunted-lemp-mansion/
THE LAVENDER LADY.
By Donald Roussin & Kevin Kious (618-346-2634)
The Lemp brewery was rocked in the years before the World War by the very public battles between William Lemp, Jr. and Lillian (Handlan) Lemp, the "Lavender Lady," during their scandalous divorce trial, and subsequent custody disputes. Lillian's nickname was derived from her penchant of frequently dressing in her favorite color, and going so far as to have her carriage horses harness dyed lavender.
http://www.beerhistory.com/library/holdings/lemp7.shtml
William Jacob Lemp, Sr
BIRTH 1836
DEATH 13 Feb 1904 (aged 67–68)
BURIAL Bellefontaine Cemetery
Saint Louis, St. Louis City, Missouri, USA
PLOT Block 350, Lot 4373 (Lemp mausoleum)
MEMORIAL ID 6132977
William J. Lemp Sr. - the first suicide
Adam's son William J. Lemp was born in Germany in 1835. After completing his education at St. Louis University, he worked at the Western Brewery until he left the company to form a partnership with another brewer. In 1861, he enlisted in the United States Reserve Corps, and achieved the rank of Orderly Sergeant. On December 3, 1861, he married Julia Feickert.
On August 23, 1862, Adam Lemp died, and William returned to the Western Brewery as owner and operator. In 1864 he began building a larger brewery above the caves where Western had been storing its goods.
Under William Lemp, the Western Brewery became the largest brewery in St. Louis, and then, the largest outside of New York with a single owner. William began to brew and bottle the beer in the same facility to meet growing demand, a practice that was rare at that time. Further demonstrating his innovation and business sense, in 1878 he installed the first refrigeration machine in an American brewery, and then extended the idea to refrigerated railway cars, in a successful attempt to be the first beer in the United States with a national reach. Soon, Lemp Beer was sold worldwide.
In 1892, the William J. Lemp Brewing Company was founded from the Western Brewery with William as President, his son William Jr. as Vice-President, and his son Louis as Superintendent.
William J. "Billy" Lemp, Jr., was born on August 13, 1867. Like his father, he went to St. Louis University and then studied the art of brewing. However, it was William Sr.'s fourth son, Frederick, born in 1873, whom he hoped to groom to take over the company. Unknown to William Sr. and his family, Frederick had significant health problems, which ended his life on December 12, 1901. William Sr. became despondent and slowly declined. On the morning of February 13, 1904, at approximately 9:30 a.m., he shot himself in the head in his upstairs bedroom and died at about 10:15 a.m.
Julia Lemp (Feickert)
Birthdate: July 26, 1841
Birthplace: Saint Louis, Missouri, United States
Death: April 18, 1906 (64)
Saint Louis, Missouri, United States
Immediate Family: Daughter of Jacob Feickert and Elizabeth Feickert
Wife of William Jacob Lemp
Mother of William Jacob Lemp, Jr.; Charles Adam Lemp; Frederick Lemp; Edwin Lemp; Elsa Weight and 1 other
Julia was the wife of William J. Lemp, president of the William J. Lemp Brewing Company. Julia died of cancer in the same room her late husband committed suicide. At her time of death, Julia was the richest woman in St. Louis.
Lemp Mansion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemp_Mansion
The house was built in 1868 by St. Louisian Jacob Feickert. William J. Lemp and his wife, Julia (Feickert) , moved into the mansion in 1876.
Not much information to be found about Julia
Lemps all buried at Bellefontaine Cemetery
Lemp Brewery Cherokee Caves
Anhauser-Busch English Caves (Benton Park)
Still looking for a Map of English Caves
Caves of St. Louis
http://trickykegstands.com/caves.html
There are caves. I found some.
(Of course, feel free to Contact me if you know anything about the caves. I'd love to put more information on this portion of the site.)
I have been fascinated with the network of caves that are supposedly under the city of St. Louis ever since I was a little kid. One day, while trying to find a birthday present for my brother, I stumbled upon a book entitled, "Lost Caves of St. Louis."
Written in 1964, it seemed a bit outdated, but I was enthralled. I bought it for him, wrapped it up and gave it away.
Three years later I borrowed the book from the library and decided to make this site. The goal is to become a central repository of current information about the caves under St. Louis.
There isn't much here because the caves' mystery is only exceeded by their power (HA!) but because of it I was invited to a tour of Lemp and Cherokee.
Here's an unfinished Google map that shows the approximate locations of each cave mentioned in "Lost Caves of St. Louis". A similar map can be found on pages 20 – 24 in the book. Of course, I haven't taken the time to find the coordinates of each location… If you want to help, find a few and send them to me. (please? It isn't hard, just google map the intersections and write down the coordinates… Should take you a half hour, tops.)
AnheuserBuschCave East side of Carondelet (now s. broadway and arsenal)
Bremen N. Broadway and Bremen Ave.
CherokeeBrewery 2726 Cherokee
CherokeeCave. Cherokee & 7th
StLouisBrewery. Franklin between 2nd and Broadway
ConsumersBrewery Cave. 1920 Shenandoah
EnglishCave. East of Benton Park between Arsenal and Wyoming
HomeBreweryCave. Corner of miami and wisconsin
HydePark Salisbury and North Florrisant
IndianMound Broadway near Brooklyn Ave.
Kerzingers Southeast Corner of Broadway and Tyler
KlausmanCave 8639 Broadway
LayfayetteCave 1714 Cass Ave.
LempCave South of Cherokee Cave on S. Broadway
NaturalCaves - 15a. 2005 Benton southwest to Ecoff and Manchester Ave. 15b. Hudler and Hoffman
PhoenixBreweryCave (old staehlin brewery) 18th and Lafayette
ShnaidersBreweryCave Chouteau ave. between armstrong and mississippi
SidneyStreetBreweryCaves (most likely all the same cave) (PUT ON MAP!) -whitteman and rost weiss, 211 anna (now st. george) -theo schwer, 709-15 lynch -pittsburg,rosati (now 12th) and lynch -jackson brewery, same block as above -arsenal 11th and Lynch -suesert and berger, south side of sidney and west of 7th -schlop, sidney street north near buel (now 10th) -gambrinus, sidney and 10th -koch and feldkamp, south sidney -schilling and schneider, south sidney
UhrigsCave Locust and Washington Ave. beneath 18th street between jefferson and delmar
WildCaves 20a. North of California and Sidney 20b. East under nebraska near lafayette 20c. 1900 South Compton Ave.
WinkelmeyerAndExcelsiorCaveStretches between 17th and 18th under Market
The book seems to have been reprinted in 1996 and includes a forward by Ron Elz. he mentions an entrance to the Lemp Caverns through a lidded opening in a parking lot.
cont.
He also mentions an entrance to the Cherokee Cave in the basement of the former Cherokee Brewery brew house. It says the building is located just east of Iowa St. on the south side of Cherokee Street.
There seems to be a man-made thing called Glasgow Cavern on teh northwest corner of Cass and Garrison Avenue. (PUT THIS ON THE MAP).
He says the Uhrig Cave is still under the Main Post Office and Union Station. (PUT THIS ON THE MAP)
There seems to be a number of caves between Washington Boulevard and Locust Street on the west side of Jefferson (PUT THIS ON THE MAP)
Some Links
an article about the Lemp caves:
http://bestof.riverfronttimes.com/bestof/award.php?award=30716
Caves Threatened by County Development - link
Missouri Speleological Survey
speleology @ washu
heres how you get into lemp cave: http://www.missourighosts.net/investigations03e.html
and "You don't crawl in the expected way, on your tummy, walkie-talkie in hand, wearing a spelunker's helmet, or plot strategies with subterranean maps. You just walk into a building, turn on a few lights and proceed to a cargo elevator that drops you three stories straight down into one part of the cave system. If you want to travel to another leg of the network, you can either wander through the dank, muddy tunnels or you can get back on the elevator, resurface, walk a few hundred yards in the open air, enter another building and submerge again. It's a funny way to spelunk, but it works well for the cowardly and the claustrophobic."
Here is a reader contributed link (thanks!) to a local news show segment called "Places you can't go." They went into a mystery part of the cherokee cave (I don't think this is cherokee cave… it is something different) and rafted around for a bit:
http://www.ksdk.com/video/default.aspx?aid=67657&bw=
or, for a direct link to the streaming video:
mms://wm.ksdk.gannett.edgestreams.net/news/013108_underground_ksdk.wmv
Let's get a group together and convince Will Liebermann to give us a key to the pace.
Another link to a video about a cave tour. I love how he says the one ice shaft is in the middle of the intersection of Cherokee and DeMenil Pl.
another entrance bites the dust:
http://users.stlcc.edu/mfuller/lempdig/history.html
unrelated to caves of st. louis… punks in the "caves" under paris:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2554240.ece\
http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=60176&sid=81003ef834c9c358b95e174a2c20b798\
http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/undergroun_stl.htm
Question for those more computer literate…..
If I plotted the locations of the cave openings above and made a MyMapsGoogle Map which I saved to PDF and named "Lost Caves", if I attach it here, can it be linked back to me in any way?
I just don't want to "dox" myself.
I also did a MyMaps map of St. Louis with all of the locations requested by thomasAnon but am also reluctant to attach it for the same reason.
After reading into breweries (old and new) all around St. Louis and their access to tunnels and elaborate buildings/vaults underground, the numerous locations of "known" cave/tunnel access and the neighborhoods above ground, I believe that there is a direct correlation between tunnels, breweries, trains and nefarious purposes. Possibly even today.
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>6213382- In your branch off on Des Peres you can refer back to this drop.
The entrance to the Des Peres river/ underground sewer is very close to where you guys are looking now.
Happy Easter, thomas-anon, H-anon and others …
I'm L-anon 45577d
I'm just trying to keep up and help out.
Thank you all for this. It has been a long time since the main thread was worth anything in the way of research. I suppose that is why Q seems to have tasked them to "be the news".
I'm not interested in following any of the media these days. Thank you for taking this in a different direction.
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Scott Air Force Base-1192 Golf Course Road, Scott AFB, Illinois, 62225
attached to Mid-America St. Louis Airport
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Air_Force_Base#Major_units_assigned
US Army Aviation Systems Command, AMSAV-MPSD, 4300 Goodfellow Blvd., St. Louis, MO 63120-1798
where there is a green star, ther eis a casino there called "Queen", Interesting no? I wonder which year it was built and whom owns it? I didn't get to see the information as I couldn't access them from connection problems.
1990-Riverboat Development Corp (Joseph Terrell)
1991 Casino Queen Inc. (Charles Bidwill, William Koman Family, et. al.
1993 Casino Queen opens on the riverfront
2006 Columbia Sussex Corp. (Still run by Casino Queen Inc. owners)
2012 Sold to CQ Holding Company - Employee Stock ownership plan………Casino Queen, Inc. still involved.
Image #1 Pedo swirls (?)
Image #2 Pedo swirls photographer (?) -Dreamstime.com… I've seen these pedo swirls on other photos we've run across on this search of St. Louis landmarks.
Image #3 Dome, Arches, Keystone…groups of 3 - obelisk (?)
Image #4 - logo…numerous symbolism
Ugh….sickening
Another pedo/trafficking photographer
Dreamstime.com
These are photos from the main page. If you look in google images under dreamstime it is a veritable photo collection of beautiful young children and pedo-swirl logos….
If you are looking for prominent architects (ooo, "arch" is in that word) in St. Louis, this is your guy. And he LOVES arches.
Isaac ("Ike") Stacker Taylor (31 December 1850, Nashville, Tennessee – 28 October 1917, St. Louis, Missouri) was an American architect. He was one of the most important architects in St. Louis and the midwestern United States at the turn of the twentieth century, designing commercial, residential, industrial, and governmental structures.
Taylor's career spanned nearly 50 years, the last 36 at the helm of his own firm, and some 215 projects. An obituary declared that "his career…has been synchronous with the architectural progress of St. Louis" and his works "in number and importance are second to none in his city."[1] He served as Chairman of the Architectural Commission and Director of Works for the Louisiana Purchase Exposition (St. Louis World's Fair) of 1904 and himself designed numerous pavilions at the fair. Taylor was still designing up until his death at age 66 several months after the United States entered the First World War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_S._Taylor
oops, double paste
He was quite a prolific architect in St. Louis and very well-liked and "connected".
Architect
Richard Morris Hunt (October 31, 1827 – July 31, 1895) was an American architect of the nineteenth century and an eminent figure in the history of American architecture. He helped sculpt the face of New York City with his designs for the 1902 entrance façade and Great Hall of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty, and many Fifth Avenue mansions now lost to the wrecking ball.[1]
Hunt is also renowned for his Biltmore Estate, America's largest private house, near Asheville, North Carolina, and for his elaborate summer cottages in Newport, Rhode Island, which set a new standard of ostentation for the social elite and the newly-minted millionaires of the Gilded Age.
According to the historian David McCullough, "Hunt was the first American to be admitted to the school of architecture at the École des Beaux-Arts – the finest school of architecture in the world – and the subsequent importance of his influence on the architecture of his own country can hardly be overstated."[12]
Hunt spent Christmas 1855 in Paris, after which he returned to the United States. In March 1856, he accepted a position with the architect Thomas Ustick Walter helping Walter with the renovation and expansion of the U.S. Capitol, and the following year moved to New York to establish his own practice. Hunt's first substantial project was the Tenth Street Studio Building, where he rented a space, and where in 1858 he founded the first American architectural school, beginning with a small group of students, including George B. Post, William Robert Ware, Henry Van Brunt and Frank Furness.[15] Ware, who was deeply influenced by Hunt, went on to found America's first two university programs in architecture: at MIT in 1866, and at Columbia in 1881.
Hunt's professional trajectory gained impetus from his extensive social connections at Newport, Rhode Island, the resort where in 1859 Hunt's brother William bought a house. There in 1860 Hunt met the woman he would marry, Catherine Clinton Howland, the daughter of Samuel S. Howland, a New York shipping merchant, and his wife, Joanna Howe.[21] On April 2, 1861, they married at the Church of the Ascension, on Fifth Avenue at Tenth street,[22] and according to a newspaper reporter, the bride brought a dowry to the marriage of $400,000.[23] Many of Hunt's early wood frame houses, and many of his later more substantial masonry houses, were built at Newport, some of the latter for the Vanderbilts, the family of railroad tycoons with whom Hunt had a long and rewarding relationship.
Beginning in the 1870s, Hunt acquired more substantial commissions, including New York's Tribune Building (built 1873–75, one of the earliest buildings with an elevator), and the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty (built 1881–86). Hunt devoted much of his practice to institutional work, including the Theological Library and Marquand Chapel at Princeton; the Fogg Museum of Art at Harvard; and the Scroll and Key clubhouse at Yale, all of which except the last have been demolished.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Morris_Hunt
• William K. Vanderbilt House, Petit Chateau, Fifth Avenue, New York City (1878–1882), demolished 1926.[34]
• William Kissam Vanderbilt House, Marble House, Newport, Rhode Island (1888–1892).
• George Washington Vanderbilt House, Biltmore Estate, Asheville, North Carolina (1890–1895), the largest private house in America.
• Cornelius Vanderbilt II house, The Breakers, Newport, Rhode Island (1892–1895).
**numerous homes in Newport, RI
**numerous homes on 5th Avenue, NYC
Img #1 NY Tribune (demolished)
Img #2 Statue of Liberty pedestal
Img #3 Metropolitan Museum Art, NYC
Img #4 Divinity Hall @ Yale
Sorry to bother you, I've been looking for a while for instructions to make a google map into a jpg. They do not make it easy. Do you have an easy way to do that that you would be willing to share?
Could the "secret base operations" be hidden in plain sight? Definitely found some "aircraft" manufacturing at the Lambert Intl.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas
McDonnell Douglas was a major American aerospace manufacturing corporation and defense contractor formed by the merger of McDonnell Aircraft and the Douglas Aircraft Company in 1967. Between then and its own merger with Boeing in 1997, it produced a number of well-known commercial and military aircraft such as the DC-10 airliner and F-15 Eagle air-superiority fighter.
The corporation was based at St. Louis Lambert International Airport near St. Louis, Missouri, while the headquarters for its subsidiary, the McDonnell Douglas Technical Services Company (MDTSC), were established in unincorporated St. Louis County, Missouri.[2]
History[edit]
Background[edit]
Main articles: McDonnell Aircraft Corporation and Douglas Aircraft Company
The company was formed from the firms of James Smith McDonnell and Donald Wills Douglas in 1967. Both men were of Scottish ancestry, graduates of MIT and had worked for the aircraft manufacturer Glenn L. Martin Company.[3]
Douglas had been chief engineer at Martin before leaving to establish Davis-Douglas Company in early 1920 in Los Angeles. He bought out his backer and renamed the firm the Douglas Aircraft Company in 1921.[4] McDonnell founded J.S. McDonnell & Associates in Milwaukee, Wisconsin in 1926. His idea was to produce a personal aircraft for family use. The economic depression from 1929 ruined his ideas and the company collapsed. He worked at three companies with the final being Glenn Martin Company in 1933. He left Martin in 1938 to try again with his own firm, McDonnell Aircraft Corporation, this time based at Lambert Field, outside St. Louis, Missouri.[5]
McDonnell Douglas retained McDonnell Aircraft's headquarters location at what was then known as Lambert–St. Louis International Airport, in Berkeley, Missouri,[25][26][27][28] near St. Louis.
Through the years of the Cold War McDonnell Douglas had introduced and manufactured dozens of successful military aircraft, including the F-15 Eagle in 1974,[38] the F/A-18 Hornet in 1978,[39] and other products such as the Harpoon and Tomahawk missiles.
In 1984, McDonnell Douglas expanded into helicopters by purchasing Hughes Helicopters from the Summa Corporation for $470 million.[40] Hughes Helicopters was made a subsidiary initially and renamed McDonnell Douglas Helicopter Systems in August 1984.[41] McDonnell Douglas Helicopters's most successful product was the Hughes-designed AH-64 Apache attack helicopter.[42][43]
McDonnell-Douglas on the forefront of aviation technology since 1920’s
McDonnell-Douglas taken over by Boeing.
Following Boeing's 1996 acquisition of Rockwell's North American division, McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing in August 1997 in a US $13 billion stock swap, with Boeing as the surviving company.[1][58] Boeing adopted the McDonnell Douglas logo, which shows the globe being encircled in tribute to the first aerial circumnavigation which was accomplished in 1924 using Douglas aircraft.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Defense,Space%26_Security
Boeing Defense, Space & Security (BDS) is a division (business unit) of The Boeing Company based in Greater St. Louis. It is responsible for defense and aerospace products and services. It was formerly known as Boeing Integrated Defense Systems (IDS).
Boeing Integrated Defense Systems was formed in 2002 by combining the former "Military Aircraft and Missile Systems" and "Space and Communications" divisions.[4] Boeing Defense, Space & Security makes Boeing the second-largest defense contractor in the world and was responsible for 45% of the company's income in 2011.[5]
Boeing Defense, Space & Security is a consolidated group which brought together major names in aerospace; Boeing Military Airplane Company; Hughes Satellite Systems; Hughes Helicopters minus the civilian helicopters products (which were divested as MD Helicopters); Piasecki Helicopter, subsequently known as Boeing Vertol and then Boeing Helicopters; the St. Louis-based McDonnell division of the former McDonnell Douglas Company; and the former North American Aviation division of Rockwell International.
Boeing Defense, Space & Security is headquartered in Greater St. Louis north of St. Louis Lambert International Airport in the northern St. Louis suburb of Berkeley, Missouri.[6] There are also significant operations in nearby communities, such as Hazelwood and St. Charles. It is one of the largest employers in Greater St. Louis with 13,707 local employees as of 2018.[7]
I think we’ve found our fancy flying aircrafts
Boeing BDS has been reorganized into the following subdivisions as of June 13, 2018:[9]
• Autonomous Systems – Develops and produces autonomous platforms for sea, air, and space domains, including the necessary software for remote piloting and supporting services. The Autonomous Systems portfolio also includes Insitu and Liquid Robotics, two Boeing subsidiaries.
• Development – Enhances performance on key defense and space pre-production development programs by consolidating management, expertise and resources into one organization.
• Global Operations – Leads Defense, Space & Security’s international subsidiaries (Boeing Defence Australia, Boeing Defence India, Boeing Defense Saudi Arabia, Boeing Defence United Kingdom), seeks opportunities for additional global growth.
• Phantom Works – Creates and advances new products and capabilities by drawing on its expertise in innovation, advanced experimentation and prototyping.
• Space and Missile Systems – The world’s largest satellite manufacturer also offering strategic missile and defense systems, weapons systems and other space and intelligence systems. The division houses Boeing’s more than 60 years of space exploration expertise and manages Boeing’s share of United Launch Alliance and United Space Alliance.
• Strike, Surveillance and Mobility – Manages Boeing’s current and future portfolio of fixed-wing military and surveillance aircraft, including fighters and commercial derivative platforms, and support of key platforms such as the executive transport fleet, which includes Air Force One.
• Vertical Lift – The world’s largest provider of military rotorcraft with a diverse portfolio of cargo, tiltrotor and attack platforms.
Could this have been an operation paperclip location with all the aviation technology and loads of German beer flowing from every corner?
Sure, I'll try. Thank you for the google map tip.
I just found this diagram software and thought I'd give it a shot. It took me a week to mull the problem over before I could commit to the plan.
I have a feeling that the cave entrances that I found are just a drop in the bucket of the total. I'll bet there are many houses/buildings that are connected, but I will try to pinpoint on the map the ones we do have.
Just want to confirm. If I post a link to a google map that I built with locations of caves/tunnels/sewers, it will not dox me. Correct?
I'm going to figure this out. In the meantime, if you are looking in a certain area I can give you locations I've found. Otherwise the locations are all around town but mostly grouped in southeastern part of the city
Masonic Lodges
I think you asked for this one too, if I recall. I will work on East St. Louis today
Thank you!!!!
I'm trying to follow along with your thoughts about spirituality and your desire to "kill Moloch". Are you suggesting that Moloch/Ba'al is in a killable form? How did you come to that conclusion?
East St. Louis locations discussed:
What do we make of this - Geneology site…
Daniel Paysour
Birth 13 Sep 1793
Lincoln County, NC, USA
Jonas W. Payseur
Birth 4 May 1813
Lincoln County, NC
Lewis Cass Payseur
Birth 18 Oct 1850
Lincoln County, NC
Just got started reading tonight. Springmeier is long-winded in his introduction he seems to be speaking in a stream of consciousness……I'm starting to nod off. So far I've made no connection to our research. I am, however, looking forward to reading all of the links you posted.
Gotta sleep now; I'll read more in the morning. Goodnight, anon.
The more I've read about tunnels I've found that almost all major cities have an extensive labyrinth of underground tunnels. I haven't researched other cities/locations as extensively as St. Louis but it is clear that the possibility for a hidden network of criminal activity all across the country is very high.
I can only imagine what is going on in the tunnels of DC with the amount of skullduggery happening on the surface.
What I found most intriguing is the dates of birth:
Lewis Cass
born Oct 9, 1782
Exeter, New Hampshire, U.S.
Daniel Paysour
Birth 13 Sep 1793
Lincoln County, NC, USA
Jonas W. Payseur
Birth 4 May 1813
Lincoln County, NC
Lewis Cass Payseur
Birth 18 Oct 1850
Lincoln County, NC
It cannot be a coincidence that these two men "Lewis Cass" are born 50 years different from each other. But we also know that (Louis XVII) aka Daniel Paysour went to NC. It is a crazy puzzle.
Cass Avenue Bank
The Early Years
Cass Avenue Bank opened to the public on May 15, 1906, operating from a rented storefront at 1462 Cass Avenue in St. Louis, with Jacob Hellrung as president. Deposits reached $51,100 by the end of the day. Just a month after the bank opened, the business leaders who put up the bank’s initial seed capital had recouped their original investment.
(Cannot find the names of the "business leaders" who put up the initial capital.)
Cass Commercial Bank is a member of the Federal Reserve. Serving businesses, religious institutions and other non-profits, Cass Commercial Bank is a wholly owned subsidiary of Cass Information Systems (Nasdaq: CASS), a public company with $1.6 billion in assets.
Cass Commercial Bank
Cass Information Systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_named_for_Lewis_Cass
Counties
Cass County, Illinois
Cass County, Indiana
Cass County, Iowa
Cass County, Michigan
Cass County, Minnesota
Cass County, Missouri
Cass County, Nebraska
Cass County, Texas
Cities, towns, or villages
Cass, West Virginia
Cass City, Michigan
Cass Lake, Minnesota
Cassopolis, Michigan
Casstown, Ohio
Cassville, Georgia, formerly the county seat of Bartow County, Georgia, which was formerly Cass County, Georgia, until after the American Civil War
Cassville, Missouri
Cassville, New Jersey
Cassville, Pennsylvania
Cassville, Wisconsin
Cassville, New York
Geographical features
Cass Lake (Minnesota)[1]
Cass Lake (Michigan)
Cass River, Michigan
Buildings
Lewis Cass Building, Lansing, Michigan
Lewis Cass Technical High School, Detroit, Michigan
Lewis Cass Jr. Sr High School[1]Walton, Indiana
Lewis Cass Elementary School, Livonia, Michigan
And 28 Townships in multiple states.
Well, this guy made quite the impression……
This is an interesting guy…….nephew of Lewis Cass. Railroads & Shipping..
George Washington Cass
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_Cass
George Washington Cass (March 12, 1810 – March 21, 1888) was an American industrialist and president of the Northern Pacific Railway.
Education
Cass attended Detroit Academy, 1824 to 1827, in Detroit, Michigan, while living with his uncle Lewis Cass, governor, Michigan Territory. He then graduated from U.S. Military Academy, West Point, New York, class of 1832.
Career
Cass joined United States Army Corps of Engineers circa 1832, working on improvements to the Cumberland Road. Cass helped design the first cast iron bridge in the United States at Brownsville, Pennsylvania, later designated a National Civil Engineering Landmark. Cass left the Army as a first lieutenant in 1836 and settled into private business in Brownsville, Pennsylvania.
From 1836 to 1855 Cass organized steamboat and stagecoach lines. Due to his efforts, he was appointed president of Adams & Co., predecessor to Adams Express. He expanded the Boston-based shipping company to points as far away as St. Louis, Missouri, and Richmond, Virginia.
From Adams, Cass went into railroading, becoming president of the Ohio and Pennsylvania Railroad in 1856, and the successor Pittsburgh, Fort Wayne and Chicago Railroad (PFW&C) in 1857. He held the latter position until 1883.[1] During this period the PFW&C became part of the Pennsylvania Railroad.
Cass joined the Northern Pacific Railway as a director in 1867, four years before the company laid its first rail near Carlton, Minnesota. He was appointed president in 1872, and saw the company through the difficult years following the failure of Jay Cooke and Company and the Panic of 1873. He remained as president until 1875, when the company succumbed to its first bankruptcy. Cass was named its receiver and remained until Frederick Billings reorganized the company circa 1878. He died March 21, 1888 in New York City.[1]
This could be a stretch but this tombstone immediately made me think of the New Masonic Temple in St. Louis. Something about the base being separate from the top as if two separate tombs/alters, two separate buildings one on top of the other. Probably nothing.
Digging on Cass and LC Payseur led me to a theory that all of the Payseur fortune is in a holding company or trust called GAALT. I have seen that stated numerous times - I'm afraid I don't have any sauce on it that proves it but that is not really the point I'm going to try to make.
In looking into GAALT, I ran across this website: http://www.freedomdomain2.com/GAALT/GAALTpage2.html
On this page a segment of a letter going over the nature of how the railroads acquired land/resources from the US. At one point many of the original railroad owners had to relinquish their holdings due to being "traitors" after the civil war. Maybe this is where Lewis Cass came in and swept up the holdings for pennies on the dollar after he came back from Europe. Wasn't his railroad called "Southern" even when he owned railroads all across the country?
excerpt from letter attached
brainstorm……
Flotus at Washington Monument facing North-view of white house (is there some relation between the obelisk and the white house?)
Flotus in helicopter facing East-view of capitol
dashboard reflecting the streets around capitol building? if not, what is that?
Why is she wearing a winter coat 55-69 degrees on Saturday?
she is all in red
she has one hand showing
she is wearing flat shoes (not usual)
Why is she showing bonsai trees to Mrs. Abe?
bonsai plants are miniature trees
tended to carefully, meticulously
shallow containers
https://www.color-meanings.com/biblical-meaning-colors/
In the bible, the Hebrew word for Red is Oudem. It’s actually meaning is Red Clay. Many Biblical names (Adam, Esau and Edom) are derived from this Hebrew word which mean Flesh. Thus, it is the root word for mankind as stated in the Bible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonsai
Bonsai (Japanese: 盆栽, lit. 'tray planting', About this soundpronunciation (help·info))[1] is the Japanese pronunciation of the Sino-Japanese word "盆栽". It is an Asian art form using cultivation techniques to produce small trees in containers that mimic the shape and scale of full size trees. Similar practices exist in East Asian cultures, including the Chinese tradition of penzai from which the Japanese version Bonsai originated, and the derivative miniature living landscapes of Vietnamese Hòn Non Bộ. The Japanese tradition dates back over a thousand years.
The Japanese loanword "bonsai" has become an umbrella term in English, attached to many forms of potted or other plants,[2] and also on occasion to other living and non-living things. According to Stephen Orr in The New York Times, "the term should be reserved for plants that are grown in shallow containers following the precise tenets of bonsai pruning and training, resulting in an artful miniature replica of a full-grown tree in nature."[3] In the most restrictive sense, "bonsai" refers to miniaturized, container-grown trees adhering to Japanese tradition and principles.
The purposes of bonsai are primarily contemplation for the viewer, and the pleasant exercise of effort and ingenuity for the grower.[4] By contrast with other plant cultivation practices, bonsai is not intended for production of food or for medicine. Instead, bonsai practice focuses on long-term cultivation and shaping of one or more small trees growing in a container.
Bonsai does not require genetically dwarfed trees, but rather depends on growing small trees from regular stock and seeds. Bonsai uses cultivation techniques like pruning, root reduction, potting, defoliation, and grafting to produce small trees that mimic the shape and style of mature, full-size trees.
The color red has varied and extensive appearances in the Bible, and verses mention it in both the Jewish Bible, also known as the Tanakh or Old Testament, as well as in the New Testament. The pure color red is consistently associated with blood throughout the Scriptures, while derivations of it, such as scarlet or crimson, often pertain to sin. Additionally, crimson and scarlet sometimes invoke fine fabrics or textiles.
https://www.reference.com/world-view/color-red-mean-bible-c96fe61398d808d3
While red in the Bible often invokes blood, there are a host of other associations. For example, in Genesis 25:25, it denotes skin color; in Matthew 16:2-3, it denotes the color of the sky. In the Book of Revelations, red takes on more ominous overtones, indicating the Great Dragon, also understood to be Satan, as well as one of the four horses carrying the riders of the Apocalypse, specifically, the rider that ultimately brings terror via warfare. Additionally, red is understood as invoking war in II Kings 3:22, vengeance in Isaiah 63:2 and temptation in Proverbs 23:31.
hope that made sense…got the bonsai interrupting the thoughts on red…
The National Arboretum
The United States National Arboretum is an arboretum in Washington, D.C., operated by the United States Department of Agriculture's Agricultural Research Service as a division of the Henry A. Wallace Beltsville Agricultural Research Center. It was established in 1927, by an act of Congress after a campaign by USDA Chief Botanist Frederick Vernon Coville.
It is 446 acres (1.80 km2) in size and is located 2.2 miles (3.5 km) northeast of the Capitol building, with entrances on New York Avenue and R Street, Northeast. The campus's gardens and collections are connected by roadways that are nine miles long in total.[1]
The arboretum functions as a major center of botanical research. It conducts research on trees, flowering plants, shrubs and turf, as well as the development of plants.[2] It has a library with 11,000 volumes and approximately 100 publications concentrating in botanical literature.[3]
*The arboretum is in a very sketchy and ragged part of town.
Img. #1 "Split Ritual" by Beverly Pepper -what in the world do we make of this?
Img. #2 The National Capitol Columns originally supported the old East Portico of the United States Capitol (1828). The columns were removed during expansion of the Capitol in 1958.
The arboretum is also next door to Mount Olivet cemetery which is very spoopy with old graves, mausoleums and obelisks.
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I've been trying hard to imagine how to find an underground bunker/tunnel/base if it doesn't want to be found. H-anon mentioned that it needed antennae, obviously it needs an entrance, it needs air circulation, electricity, water source and an entrance where no one notices people entering.
There are many websites that tell you where underground military bases are throughout the country but no mention of St. Louis. I just cannot image that major construction could happen for a large underground bunker below the city and no one would notice. No supply lines, cement? electricians? people getting fed/housed? refuse unless an underground "transport" of some kind follows a boring machine from place to place.
I'd love to help you remove the veil, but I, too am stuck on the idea of an underground bunker.
I've only been able to connect dots that lead me to child trafficking but am at a standstill on the idea of a large "base" of some sort underground. If it needed to be near the airport, it could be underneath the Boeing complex. But we also have the Monsanto/Bayer complexes.
I stumbled upon this yesterday talking about how the obelisk (shaft of Ba'al) is often paired with a dome (a pregnant belly).
http://www.granddesignexposed.com/obelisk/meaning.html
From your aerial vantage point over the Vatican courtyard, you will also see rising from the center or hub of this Sun Wheel, in its erect position, a symbol of the Occult and Sun Worship that is highly regarded for its sacred importance. This particular Sun symbol was literally uprooted from Egypt and transplanted in Rome, as others were taken to the cities of London, Paris, Constantinople, and Central Park, New York. Its numerous 'look a likes' are popularly used as monuments and memorials for great men, or actually any man that wants to be remembered. A casual walk through any graveyard will vividly show you this. But just what is the significance of the Sun symbol, this stone monument or 'obelisk' as it is called, especially in certain places where it stands erect before a Dome?
However, the Encyclopedia American, 1964 edition, showing how the obelisk was related to Sun worship, explains it like this-"a monument representing the sun in ancient Egyptian religion. The Egyptians were sun worshipers, regarding the great luminary as the creator of the universe, the maker of all gods above and below, and even the author of himself…The two most striking characteristic monuments which represented him on earth were the obelisk and the pyramid…The obelisk is the technical figure of one ray or pencil of light emanating from the sun." The word o-'bel'-isk actually means the 'shaft of Bel'; Bel being another way of writing Baal, the Babylonian and Egyptian Sun god, that all nations followed after.
It is an interesting fact about the chief temples of Egypt and Babylonia, that they were "oriented"–that is to say, that the temples were built so that the shrine and entrance always faced in the same direction. On one morning in the year, and one morning alone, in a temple oriented to the rising place of the sun at Mid-Summer Day, the sun's first rays would smite down through the gloom of the temple and down the long alley of the temple pillars to brilliantly illuminate the altar. Thus it was believe that by that pencil of light or "shaft" of the Sun's presence upon the altar, it became impregnated. This solemn even gave assurance of fertility in the land and another fruitful year.
By pagan tradition, an altar symbolized the female body, which in turn symbolized 'Mother' Earth. It does not take any great imagination to understand the symbolism of an obelisk standing before a Dome–which represents a pregnant woman's belly.
If you have the chance, read this:
https://defenderpublishing.blogspot.com/2010/01/domes-obelisks-and-magic-squares-o-my.html
The pertinent information is way too much to copy/pasta here.
I wish I knew how to tell "wolv(es) in sheep's clothing". I'm still very new to all of this and my mind is expanding every day. I can see through some bullshit but I guess my instinct isn't very good yet. I need to be more discerning.
Glad you are back, was worried for a moment about you looking for pieces to your puzzle.
There is a call to dig P=C (Payseur = Cass) in last bread of main thread. Interesting connection being made.
No. 6382817
**I don't know how to link to it.
Just a thought. Could it be that the bloodline follows the blood? Whichever eldest child carries the RH- bloodtype carries on the bloodline?
So, if an older male does not have the correct bloodtype, he is disqualified.
Lewis Cass Ledyard, Jr
https://daytoninmanhattan.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-chas-macveagh-mansion-no-40-east.html
Later that year, on November 2, The Sun reported that Lewis Cass Ledyard, Jr. had purchased the MacVeagh house. The Real Estate Record & Builders’ Guide reported in February 1917 that the mansion “is now being extensively altered for his occupancy.”
The remodeling that the Ledyards commissioned was internal, leaving the façade unaffected. The family included Ledyard’s wife, the former Ruth Langdon Emery, and three children, an 8-year old boy, and two daughters, 10 and 4 years old. The renovations of No. 40 were barely done before the family moved into their summer estate at Syosset, Long Island. Tragedy would soon follow.
At noon on August 10, 1917 the children’s nurse took them for a walk along the North Hempstead and Flushing Turnpike not far from the home. Mrs. Howard Barney was riding in her limousine with some friends as her chauffeur, Jesse Hayden, rounded a curve that hid the pedestrians from his sight.
The nurse saw the approaching automobile and grabbed two of the children, pulling them to the side of the road. She called to 4-year old Virginia to follow them. But it was too late.
“The little girl did not see the automobile coming, and evidently misunderstood the nurse’s words,” reported The New York Times the following day. “At any rate, she was in the middle of the road, and the machine bore down on her and passed over her body.”
Mrs. Barney “hurried with the unconscious child to her residence, a little more than a mile away from the scene of the accident.” It was of no use. Before Dr. J. S. Hall arrived, the little girl had died of a fractured skull and internal injuries.
Older sister died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dauphin_of_France
Dauphin of France (French: Dauphin de France [dofɛ də fʁɑs]), originally Dauphin of Viennois (Dauphin de Viennois), was the title given to the heir apparent to the throne of France from 1350 to 1791 and 1824 to 1830.[1] The word dauphin is French for dolphin. At first the heirs were granted the County of Viennois (Dauphiné) to rule, but eventually only the title was granted.
The LAST dauphin was Louis XVII (ie. Lewis Cass/Daniel Payseur - the guys we've been talking about) because he was the heir.
Fancy French word for the heir to the throne.
This anon is saying he has found that the guys we've been digging on (Cass/Payseur) are not the "last dauphin"
All good……nobody is trying to trick you. Everyone here works together and will gladly explain if we jump ahead or use terms we haven't used. Most of us have run into these terms as we've been digging. Glad you've read up to speed. Just ask, we'll help fill in the blanks!
Nobody here gets mad. We are here to help each other.
I can do better yet. Moar info
History tells us that the "last dauphin" died from an illness after his parents Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette were put to death.
The alternative story is that he was smuggled out of the country and with the help of the King of England he resettled in North Carolina under the name of Daniel Payseur.
There are so many people following and spreading information about this story that it is not difficult to find a retelling of the "lost dauphin".
Up until now, we have conjectured that the "last/lost dauphin" was Daniel Payseur AND Lewis Cass. Anon is dropping his new thought that we are not on the right track…….
Often times these other guys are way ahead of me and I just read their links branch out a bit and catch up and then try to help out. It's amazing to watch and nothing like the main bread where everyone is attacking and insulting each other.
I definitely don't want anyone to hurt you but I'd love it if you would drip out the sauce on this. You didn't leave me much to go on…. I'm assuming I have to figure your conclusion out on my own….
Not sure if this is helpful…. royal blood
Lewis Cass / Elizabeth Spencer*
Matilda Cass/Henry Ledyard
Lewis Cass Ledyard/ Gurtrude Prince (Francis Isabel Morris)
Lewis Cass Ledyard, Jr./ Ruth Langdon Emery
Lewis Cass Ledyard III/ Eve Mortimer**
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regarding Elizabeth Spencer
https://smokershistory.com/USTrust.html#Lewis_Cass_Ledyard
His grandfather, Benjamin Ledyard Jr. (1779-1812) married Susan French Livingston, daughter of Brockholst Livingston. (Lewis Cass Ledyard. In: Prominent Families of New York. By Anonymous, 2009, p. 359.) The Livingstons are Royal descendants of Louis VI, King of France. The McVickar family are also relatives of the Ledyards through the Livingstons. (Americans of Royal Descent. By Charles Henry Browning, 1891, p. 589.) His grandfather, Lewis Cass, married Elizabeth Spencer, a Royal descendant of William the Conqueror. (Americans of Royal Descent. By Charles Henry Browning, 1891, p. 311.)
**regarding Eve Mortimer
Eve Mortimer**
F, #322692, b. 1918, d. 1 October 2007
Eve Mortimer was born in 1918.1 She was the daughter of Stanley Grafton Mortimer and Kathleen Tilford.1 She married Lewis Cass Ledyard, III.
From 1937, her married name became Pell.1 She was a race horse breeder.1
Children of Eve Mortimer and Lewis Cass Ledyard, III
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Michael Mortimer Ledyard1
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John Livingston Ledyard1
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Lewis Cass Ledyard, IV1
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Wendy Ledyard1
Citations
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[S219] Announcements, New York Times, New York, U.S.A., 20 February 2011. Hereinafter cited as New York Times.
Lady Diana, Princess of Wales can boast a wide array of royal blood lines..
House of Bourbon – Lady Diana descended from the House of Bourbon from the line of King Henry IV of France, who's daughter Princess Henrietta Maria of France married King Charles I, and had 2 sons, King Charles II and King James II.
House of Habsburg – Lady Diana descended from the House of Habsburg from the line of Ferdinand I, Holy Roman Emperor, who's daughter was Archduchess Joanna of Austria, who married Francesco I, Grand Duke of Tuscany, son of Cosimo de' Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany. Joanna's daughter was Marie de' Medici, Queen of France.
House of Stuart – Lady Diana is 5x descended from the House of Stuart from both the lines of King Charles II (from his four illegitimate sons; James Scott, 1st Duke of Monmouth, Henry FitzRoy, 1st Duke of Grafton, Charles Beauclerk, 1st Duke of St Albans and Charles Lennox, 1st Duke of Richmond) and from King James II (from his illegitimate daughter, Henrietta FitzJames, Countess of Newcastle).
And 6 others royal bloodlines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_family
The Spencer family is one of Britain's preeminent aristocratic families. Founded in the 15th century, it has spawned numerous aristocratic titles including the extant dukedom of Marlborough, the earldoms of Sunderland and Spencer, and the Churchill barony. Two prominent members of the family during the 20th century were British prime minister Sir Winston Churchill and British royal family member Diana, Princess of Wales.
https://www.history.com/topics/france/marie-antoinette
Marie Antoinette, the 15th child of Holy Roman Emperor Francis I and the powerful Habsburg empress Maria Theresa, was born in Vienna, Austria, in 1755–an age of great instability for European monarchies. In 1766, as a way to cement the relatively new alliance between the French and Habsburg thrones, Maria Theresa promised her young daughter’s hand in marriage to the future king Louis XVI of France. Four years later, Marie Antoinette and the dauphin were married by proxy in Vienna.
this is good stuff, thanks
And look at this….the Jefferson Memorial, directly south of White House and Washington Monument across the tidal basin….a dome.
I think what is significant here is not the pictures I was able to find but the ones I could not. (I only searched the direct line to Lewis Cass Ledyard III, not all of the siblings.) If a line of socialites was truly "scrubbed" from the internet, I would say it is this one.
http://www.queenmarystory.com/2010/07/among-hoi-polloi.html
On this day in 1936, Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt, mother of twelve year old heiress Gloria Laura Vanderbilt, sailed for Europe aboard the RMS Queen Mary with her sister, Lady Furness. They are pictured above the previous year as they arrived home after a month in the country.
Also on board: The Earl and Countess of Lincoln, Sir Malcolm and Lady Perks; Mrs. Lewis Cass Ledyard Jr.*, Kaye Don, racing automobilist; Jesse L. Lasky, Jesse L. Lasky Jr.; Mr. and Mrs. Adam L. Gimbel; Mrs. Leopold Stokowski and Percy H. Johnston, chairman of the Chemical Bank and Trust Company.
Notice who was traveling on the Queen Mary at the same time as Gloria Morgan (Vanderbilt) and Lady Furness .
I also found this in my images travels. Might be useful to the story.
https://www.revolvy.com/page/Newport-Reading-Room
The Newport Reading Room(also known as The Reading Room), founded in 1854, is a gentlemen's club located on Bellevue Avenue in Newport, Rhode Island, USA. Its primary building features an actual book reading room. The Spouting Rock Beach Association, which owns the famed Bailey's Beach, has been reported to own the building.[1]However this claim, according to the club's leadership, is incorrect.
History
The Newport Reading Room was founded in 1854 by William Shepard Wetmore, a wealthy China trade merchant, and several other notable Newporters, including Yankee traders and Southern planters who summered in Newport. Several of the managing stock holders were full-time Rhode Island residents while others were summer residents.[2]Supposedly, the Newport Casino, a rival club nearby on Bellevue Avenue was started by a former Reading Room member, James Gordon Bennett, Jr., as described:
The Newport Reading Room incident concerns Bennett and one of his polo buddies, Captain Candy, better known as "Sugar Candy." A wager was concocted whereby Sugar Candy would mount his polo pony and ride up the short flight of stairs into the exclusive club located on Bellevue Avenue. Bennett was reprimanded, Sugar Candy supposedly shown the door for the last time. As the story goes (never proven), Bennett started the Newport Casino in response.[3][4]
The Reading Room has a long history of hosting charitable fundraisers, for example the New York Times reported on the club's 1912 baseball game against the U.S. Navy officers of the Atlantic Fleet to raise funds for Newport Hospital.[5] The Reading Room was one of the centers of Newport social life with other traditional institutions such as the Redwood Library, Newport Country Club, Trinity Church, Bailey's Beach, New York Yacht Club summer clubhouse and the Newport Casino[6]
Notable members
• Vincent Astor
• George F. Baker
• John Nicholas Brown
• Elbridge T. Gerry
• George Noble Jones
• William Shepard Wetmore
• Claiborne Pell
• James Gordon Bennett, Jr.
• Washington Irving
• S. Nicholson Kane
• Lewis Cass Ledyard
• Pierre Lorillard
• Cornelius Vanderbilt
• Harold S. Vanderbilt
https://www.revolvy.com/page/New-York-Yacht-Club
The New York Yacht Club is a private social club and yacht club based in New York City and Newport, Rhode Island. It was founded in 1844 by nine prominent sportsmen. The members have contributed to the sport of yachting and yacht design. As of 2001, the organization was reported to have about 3,000 members.[1] Membership in the club is by invitation only. Its officers include a commodore, vice-commodore, rear-commodore, secretary and treasurer.
Notable members
• Winthrop W. Aldrich
• Brooke Astor
• John Jacob Astor, real estate mogul
• Vincent Astor
• George Fisher Baker
• August Belmont
• James Gordon Bennett, Jr., newspaper publisher
• Michael Bloomberg, Mayor of New York City
• John Nicholas Brown II, philanthropist
• Frederick Gilbert Bourne
• William F. Buckley, author and commentator
• William A. Chanler, explorer, soldier and US Congressman
• Robert H. Conn, Assistant Secretary of the Navy
• Dennis Conner, racing yacht captain
• William P. Cronan, 19th Naval Governor of Guam
• Walter Cronkite, newscaster
• Chris Dodd, United States senator
• Pete DuPont, governor of Delaware
• Elbridge Thomas Gerry
• Jay Gould, railroad tycoon
• Alfred Walton Hinds, 17th Naval Governor of Guam
• Charles Oliver Iselin
• Charles O'Neal, politician
• Arthur Curtiss James
• Gary Jobson
• Edward Kennedy, Jr., United States Senator
• Dennis Kozlowski (resigned)
• Lewis Cass Ledyard
• John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy
• Bernard Madoff (resigned)
• Clarence Moore, businessman
• J. P. Morgan, financier
• J. P. Morgan, Jr.
• Junius Spencer Morgan III
• Emil Mosbacher
• Robert Mosbacher
• Frank F. Olney (1851—1903), 18th Mayor of Providence, Rhode Island[16]
• Trenor Luther Park elected 1883, owned the Sultana
• Jonas M. Platt, Major general in the Marine Corps
• David Rockefeller, banker
• Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd President of the United States
• Gary Roughead, 29th Chief of Naval Operations, US Navy
• Elliott Fitch Shepard, lawyer and newspaper owner[17]
• Alfred P. Sloan
• John Cox Stevens
• Olin Stephens, yacht designer
• Ted Turner, media mogul
• Cornelius Vanderbilt III, Army general
• Harold Stirling Vanderbilt, railroad executive
• Thomas Watson, Jr.
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The New York Central Railroad at Start of the 20th Century
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At the start of the 20th century the New York Central Railroad was one of the most important and powerful railroads in the U.S., and because of the importance of railroading at the time, it was one of the country’s most powerful corporations. Its lines stretched from Boston in the east to Chicago and St. Louis in the west and from New York City in the south to the Canadian border in the north.
20th Century Limited
Starting in 1902, its flagship operation was the luxurious first-class Twentieth Century Limited, operating on a fast schedule between New York’s Grand Central Terminal and Chicago’s LaSalle Street Station. Here are an image of an early Twentieth Century Limited train and a map of the Central’s lines in 1914.
The Central’s Board of Directors
From its headquarters in New York City, the Central’s board of directors during the first decade of the century included men (all white and no women, sorry) who were wealthy and powerful in their own right and who are important in American history. Here are profiles of some of these figures.
William K. Vanderbilt, a grandson of Cornelius “Commodore Vanderbilt, [1] had been active in the day-to-day operations of the Central from 1863 until 1903. He was a yachtsman who won the America’s Cup in 1895, an owner of many race horses, an active supporter of the Metropolitan Opera and an owner of fine paintings which he eventually bequeathed to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. His mansion on Fifth Avenue was regarded as one of Manhattan’s most magnificent residences. When he died in 1920 his estate publicly was estimated at $100 million.
Frederick K. Vanderbilt was another grandson of the Commodore who also had been active in the Central.
Hamilton McKown Twombly was married to the Commodore’s granddaughter, Florence Adele Vanderbilt, and through wise investment of her inheritance and his own money became very wealthy.
Chauncey M. Depew was the Vanderbilts’ lawyer, a “glib raconteur, master of ceremonies and after-dinner speaker” who used his legal talents in “an essentially public relations role for the [Central] and other Vanderbilt properties.”
Depew also was a prominent Republican Party politician. He was one of the organizers of the Party in 1858; a delegate to every Party convention from 1860 to 1920; a member of the New York legislature, 1861-62; New York’s Secretary of State, 1864-65; a candidate for the Party’s presidential nomination in 1888; President Harrison’s choice for U.S. Secretary of State, which Depew declined; and a U.S. Senator from New York, 1899-1911 (while he was a Director of the Central). During the Civil War he was a confidant of President Lincoln, which lead to Depew’s being New York’s official escort for President Lincoln’s funeral train on its way to Illinois.
In 1866 Depew as the principal speaker at the dedication of the Statue of Liberty said, “We dedicate this statue to the friendship of nations and the peace of the world. The spirit of liberty embraces all races in common; it voices in all languages the same needs and aspirations. The full power of its expansive and progressive influence cannot be reached until wars cease, armies are disbanded, and international disputes are settled by lawful tribunals and the principles of justice. Then the people of every nation, secure from invasion and free from the burden and menace of great armaments, can calmly and dispassionately promote their own happiness and prosperity.” This sounds like the post-World War II Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
John Pierpont (“J.P.”) Morgan, of course, was the famous Wall Street financier of the robber barons in the late 19th century. He reorganized major industrial companies and railroads and was one of the most powerful figures in railroading. J.P. also helped to halt financial panics in 1893 and 1907.
William Rockefeller with his older brother, John D. Rockefeller, established and was active in the Standard Oil Company. William also was part of the “Standard Oil Gang” that engaged in various financial promotions. William was a jovial man who liked good living with little taste for philanthropy.
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George F. Baker was another Wall Street financier, an ally of the Rockefellers and a founder of the First National Bank of New York. During the Civil War he was consulted by members of the Lincoln Cabinet on financial matters. He endowed the Harvard Business School and made large contributions to the Metropolitan Museum of Art and the Red Cross.[3]
James Stillman was the President of the National City Bank of New York City (now known as Citibank), and his two daughters married sons of William Rockefeller. Stillman was considered to be one of the 100 wealthiest Americans of his time.
Edward H. Harriman was the President of the Union Pacific Railroad and an ally of William Rockefeller and James Stillman.[4]
Marvin Hughitt was the President of the Chicago & Northwestern Railroad.
Lewis Cass Ledyard, a Wall Street lawyer, co-founder of the law firm of Carter, Ledyard & Milburn and counsel for the New York Stock Exchange and noted corporations. Ledyard was the executor of the J.P. Morgan estate.
Darius O. Mills was a Gold Rush adventurer who turned to finance and banking. For a time he was the wealthiest person in California.
William H. Newman was the Central’s President at the start of the 20th century until he was succeeded by W. C. Brown. Newman was from Virginia and started his railroad career at age 23 in 1869 as a station agent to become in 1898 the president of two Central subsidiaries–the Lake Shore & Michigan Southern and the Lake Erie & Western Railroads.
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Notice Consuelo Vanderbilt married Charles Spencer-Churchill, 9th Duke of Marlborough
So now we connect Vanderbilts with Spencer Churchill line. (If we haven't already.Charles Spencer-Churchill, 9th Duke of Marlborough
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