>>6342396

This is the old man,

Well young man, those are exactly my thoughts: what do I make of these? That's why I stopped straight into my tracks and didn't go further.

At first i thought this might be a case of stolen identity, as in Louis XVII stealing the name, the photos of Lewis Cass. But then, i look at Biltmore and St Louis; there is no denying it, both are Payseur places.

So this has me thinking it might be a case of multiple identities, as in one person is Louis Charles Bourbon, Lewis Cass & Payseur in the same time. It's like the modern day spy movies where you have the protagonist with 3 or 4 passports or driving licences.

Isn't Killary the same by the way? She is Payseur heir = that's one identity - she is a Rodham supposedly = that's another identity - and I honestly don't know if the RUMORS are true but she MIGHT be the bio daughter of David Rockefeller (if proven to be right), which gives her a third identity, if it turned out to be true. This is a fictif example of course. I'm just trying to explain my idea.

So Lewis Cass and Payseur might be one and the same but they have 2 identities. One of the things that strike me hard about Payseur was the lack of pictures about him. Just one single picture. I always wondered why? So now i have my answer to that. Payseur was living in the open, right under our noses all of this time. Just like Killary is. And since you guys are talking about Springmeier, he mentioned in his book that there are a lot of forgeries when it comes to the identification papers and the archives in the court houses were burnt and archives destroyed etc. So I'm not surprised to see there is manipulation there.

No wonder we were looking for a ghost. As hard as anyone tried, we couldn't go down the family tree and trace the descendants. So now it makes perfectly sense why? It's crazy I tell you.

>>6342213

So I was right about the street names having significance. Should we take a closer look at those places? ^_^

>>6342050

Thank you so much for your hard work. I see St Louis East is "rather empty".

>>6343323

Same confusion here. But I think it's the one and the same person we are dealing with, but with multiple identities and possibly multiple burial places. It might he was still paranoid and scared of being doxed by French revolutionaries, so he made sure he has many identities as camouflage, if he needed to flee again. Just a thought anon, I'm trying to make sense of all of this. it's really something confusing.

>>6344953

Payseur heir is connected to Bourbon distillery and other alcoholic drinks. And I have reason to believe he is implicated with Al Capone and the Alcohol Ban or prohibition that took place from 1920 to 1933 = 13 years. I haven't checked it out, but there are indications pointing that direction. it's one huge spider web and it seems everything is linked, everything. if you want to share your research in here, it will be very welcome.

>>6346448

Yes, it was explained in another thread.

It seems we are dealing with the Merovingian bloodline dynasty which was split to 2 branches (didn't look into how they split up yet). On one branch we have the French and on the other branch we have the English.

1 - we have been calling the French branch by the name of the last dynasty = the Bourbons, which have formed some sort of clan using the symbolism of red shoes.

2 - we have been calling the English branch by the name of the current dynasty = the Windsors, which have formed some type of clan using the symbolism of black eye. Ask yourself, who would DARE to punch in the face the son of the queen of England and her spouce (prince Andrew + Prince Philip).

Those 2 Merovingian branches have been dueling and battling one another over resources, fortune, power, but mostly who will give birth to the anti-christ. Yes, they do marry from one another, in order to keep the blood " pure". And since NOW they have a common ennemy who wants to destroy them both = Potus, they

united their forces to take him down.

I don't think a person can be a member of both, but they do marry from one another in order to keep the blood pure.

>>6341685

If you have any information and want to share it, please do so.

>>6345825

When I was doing that mini list of cities that have the same charateristics as St Louis : paris, london, nashville etc…they all have the same TYPE of tunnels you are researching. And some seem to be extremely old and are still of use.

>>6347136

It certainly is a crazy puzzle. Ananda anon was digging into Alice Payseur (did I remember her name correctly friend?) and he found a Payseur grave and how (((they))) were interested in South America. Ananda anon might be terribly right in his digs. Look how many children Lewis Cass had. Some of his kids died in enfancy, reminds you of Albert Pike doesn't it? So does Lewis Cass also have McLeod syndrome? And if he had it, does this mean he did like Pike and children from mistresses or maids?

Where is Ananda anon when you need him? ^_^ just joking my friend, but I sure would like to hear your thoughts about this Lewis Cass discovery.

And I was wondering = the thoughts are rushing in my head: If we are dealing with one person but with 2 identities, can he marry twice? Have children from both wives? And would this be legal? The wives are in on it, if that is the case. Could it be Louis XVII was afraid of his precious bloodline being exterminated and lost with him, so he decided to marry legally twice by having 2 identities and have as many kids as he can in order to perpetuate the lineage? Is he a Monogamist, a Bigamist, or a Polygamist? This could change a lot of things. And on top of everything, i've been wondering who his heir would be = the head of the Payseur family and mostly, how do they pick the future heir? Adding to the mix making it more crazy, how and when did the lineage switched from a patriarchal one to a matriarchal one?

As for the official birth dates and official papertrail, I believe a good part of them are pure fabrication and forgeries and even decoys, including his tombstone. Where is he REALLY burried?

Speaking about dates, i've noticed something about the date of death of Lewis Cass:

According to wikipedia, he is dea in 1866.

Well, if you put it this way: 1 + 8 = 9 = inverted 6.

So in other words we have a 18 66

(1+8 = 9)

6 66

Crazy, right? Is this a coincidence? Or is it a decoy and fake?

>>6351829

>>6351943

>>6352011

Good day to you young man,

I've been doing a lot of thinking about Lewis Cass. For someone whom didn't have a lot to do in building St Louis (what it looks like on the surface) he sure has a lot of things named after him there. And those counties named after him ! Wow! Is he competing with Thomas Jefferson. Last time I checked Jefferson was among number 1 in naming counties after him. So maybe Cass is number 2 .

That find about Lewis Cass nephew is notable. it should put in the archive as well. Very good find there.

I am like you anon, my first thoughts were about the RAILS. But I went to check them on the other side of the Atlantic because of one sentence in Cass bio in wikipedia: "Next, Cass was appointed minister to France, serving until 1842. "

If I remember correctly, he served there for 13 years. Another satanic number if you haven't noticed. I was curious to see why Cass spent so much time there while the rail business was in full bloom in the states, so I thought he might have gone there to supervise personally the rail business he was creating in his HOME country = France.

Why am I giving it this much importance? It's because of a book he wrote which was published in 1840, as in 2 years before he left France : "Cass, Lewis (1840). France, its King, Court and Government. New York: Wiley and Putnam"

Interesting no? He likes to write about the king of France and how they ruled ^_^

So i went to check the rails in France. I found this : http://frenchrailwayssociety.org/index.php?p=1_2

I'm just going to put the part that is important for us, if anons are interested in reading further, you have the link

>>6352926

So here is the text:

"The first railway in France opened between Saint Etienne and Andrézieux, south west of Lyon, in 1828. Like early English railways it was initially seen as an adjunct to inland waterways, but it rapidly became apparent that here, in embryo, was a revolutionary form of transport. On this railway in 1829, Marc Seguin placed the steam locomotive equipped with the multi-tube boiler which he had invented simultaneously with the Stephensons: a working replica of this engine exists today.

The first line to be built specifically for passenger traffic, and the first to serve the capital, was the Paris – St Germain, opened in 1837. Early trunk lines, Paris – Rouen (1843) and Paris – Orleans, drew on English technology and expertise, which left a permanent legacy in the choice of gauge and the left-hand running which is still the practice on double-track in France, except for the lines in Alsace-Lorraine and the Paris Metro.

Wishing to retain control of transport policy, the French Government passed a law in 1842 determining the shape and economic basis of the future network. The State was to supply the land, formation and all civil engineering works, which it would then lease to companies which would lay the track and run the trains. By the 1850s, town-to-town routes had coalesced into the "Big Six" grands réseaux: Est, Nord, Ouest, Paris – Orléans (PO, whose territory extended beyond Orléans itself, south to Bordeaux), Midi (in the deep south), and Paris – Lyon– Méditerranée (PLM). The original master plan included a "Grand Central", whose concessions were divided between the PO and PLM before it could come to fruition. "

In other words Cass was in France when the rail boom occured. Interesting no? I bet he made loads of money from all of this.

It seems he personally supervised the bourgeoning of his business in France, and when he was sure he wasn't needed and everything was running smoothly, he left back to the States, while I'm sure he handed the management to his businesses to front families. Same model as he did in the States. This is last paragraph is hypothetical from me, that is until new information is unearthed.

>>6353009

Sorry, I made a mistake that needs to be corrected: Cass stayed 6 years in France, from 1836 to 1842. The satanic number still there.

Then, I was curious to see where Cass "could have been burried".

I found this link: http://marvins-gardens.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-tomb-of-lewis-cass.html

First, I think in the red circles is fleurs de lys. In green square, it's the Greek or the Greek key design, the Meander, very used in Antiquity.

jillsorensen.com/do-you-know-the-symbolism-of-greek-key/

"The Greek Key/meander motif took its name from the river Meander in ancient Greece (present day Turkey). The Meander was characterized by a very convoluted path. It became the most important symbol in Ancient Greece, symbolizing infinity or the eternal flow of things"

>>6353174

Here is the text from the Link:

"As famous Michiganders go, Lewis Cass stands as one of the most famous of all. He served as our territorial governor 1813 to 1831, during which time he is credited with designing the state seal of Michigan. A stylized version of the seal appears on his tombstone.

After serving as the territorial governor, Cass went on to serve as the United States Secretary of War, Ambassador to France, United States Senator for Michigan, and United States Secretary of State. In 1848, he ran for President, losing to Zachary Taylor. When he vacated the his Senate seat in 1857, my favorite historical Michigander, Zachariah Chandler, was elected in his stead. Until recently, statues of Cass and Chandler stood in the U.S. Capitol's Statuary Hall representing Michigan. However, Chandler's statue was replaced by Gerald Ford a few years ago. Both Cass and Chandler are interred in Detroit's Elmwood Cemetery. The obelisk marking Chandler's grave rests about 100 yards to the east of Cass's tomb, separated by a pond."

The Obelisk is Chandler's.

And this is the seal of the state of Michigan which Cass supposedly help create.

I did a bit of reading on Chandler. I gotta take a look at him tomorrow with a fresh mind. There is too much into him.

And I must admit, the name "Chandler"….. is it a coincidence with Rachel Chandler? I know, I know, this may be far fetched….

Well, I'm not hoping to find much INSIDE of Cass tomb, this might be empty or someone else is resting in it. This Cass tombstone looks like a vessel or an ark or even it reminded me of the covenant ark….. just some thoughts there.

And….. P = C = Cass as well as P = C = Clinton………

My brain is fried and buzzing, so I better call it a day. I will take another look at this tomorrow. Thank you so much for your help L anon. God bless you all.