>>6198236 Thank you… but I KNOW. Can there be any other reasoning beyond knowing. I have experienced the "what is beyond mortal understanding". I do not attend a church, my walk is with HIM. I live in that realm.

>>6198376 the line dividing… I see your reasoning Anon… but you speak of the natural man, whereas there are two forces at work here. Even you are thinking in the natural. Viewing the temporal existence … but a reality we deal with until…

>>6198419 Anon you ascribe your rationale to others… does not work. Others experience their reality, not yours. God talks to me…. I talk to Him. Neither of us is crazy. We are more in touch with reality than you accept.

>>6198847 No Anon, One must have a firm knowledge and commitment to the relationship to God. What you speak of is the basic tenant of the evolution of spiritual growth. The collective is a security base for the infants of faith. We are meant to go beyond, one to "One"ness with God. Action is purposeful to the one who instigates it. And that, is each individuals destination of choice.

>>6198847 The "body" of beings you intimate would be "church"… but we need to be a lot of "ones" to be strong. Individuals, strong.