>>6282445 lb

The thing is that we were never following Q.

Future proves past. For many of us, Q is exactly the future which proves our past. I won't get into it too far, but we all knew our posts would be flagged by systems designed to sort through the flood of posts on the internet and forward them to observers.

When we spoke on the internet, it was to these observers as much as it was to anyone else. For many responsible for making or contributing to Q, we are quite likely their Q - or, if not - people who they felt a sort of kindred relationship with from the shadows.

"Owls in muh trees." This is what I mean by that phrase… Sort of. There are other things - people and groups of interest who are not necessarily our government. People from the world of the abyss who have taken note of the fact that I am, if nothing else, a creative eccentric they find amusing.

But they still haven't fully realized that I am the one they ultimately serve and therefor all offers of a job are kind of silly, as I am ultimately writing the role owls will play during the day. Someone has to think ahead around here.

So, to that end, to ask "what would it take to stop following" misses the fact that Q is not what awoke many of us to the trouble out there. Q basically cropped up and said "whoa, hey… Before you burn the planet to spite the moon, you all aren't alone and we have a plan that can bring justice to our world rather than just a flipping of the table before a bar brawl."

Which most of us find to be quite reasonable, and we've kept very close tabs on signs of whether or not these are lasting changes being built into the framework, or temporary appeasements intended to deceive. Seeing no true deceit by Q in terms of stated goals and ends - I see no reason to start punching people in the face and pulling out the nuclear weapons.

I don't play hearts and minds. I play do as you are instructed or be denied to the enemy. If the cabal wins, the world suffers a fate worse than death - so genocide as a means of compelling populations into compliance is fully acceptable in the short term.

When Q says we were willing to do the unthinkable - he is not exaggerating or mistaken. We've seen this game played for thousands of years through history. No "we are the good guys, they are the bad guys" appeal to public support. Congratulations - hope you have the smallpox vaccine. Now you just lost six key industrial centers to city-crusher nukes. The murder drones also go released on your activists.

If you can't understand what is going on and will fight for the enemy of humanity, then you can be disposed of. The small number of people who do understand or who can survive the experience will repopulate the world without the cabal come hell or high water, and all lives are forfeit in this battle spare for the last man and last woman.

I don't think people truly understand the gravity of things. To be fair - I suppose with Q's plan playing out just fine, there is no need for them to understand just how close we were to an end-of-the-world scenario. We have never fought an unconstrained war. It has always been about territory, control over populations, influence, etc. To literally consider people forfeit and massacre them as a form of scorched earth and resource denial is unthinkable in the minds of many. I am quite certain many reading this would, rightfully, consider me insane - even evil, because we associate the number of people killed with a gauge of morality. It's fine to manipulate someone into being sold as a slave as a good moral choice… Because you didn't kill them, right?

Anyway, I have strayed off the subject. Even if Q were to somehow "fail" at this juncture - I really don't see the need for such a dire course of action to remain as the favored contingency. Industry is making a return, jobs are returning, the younger generations are rejecting the insanity of SJW nonsense - the world is starting to heal itself.

No need to scorch it because Hillary didn't spontaneously combust while being hung for war crimes and human trafficking in Belgrade like I'd love to see.

>>6282552

The fun part will be when people start looking at the Steele Dossier claim that Obama stayed in a bugged Russian hotel, as Q mentioned.

It's kind of like these people are stupid and never thought she would lose. I mean… Why would you expose your own crime as a means of trying to create a crime for another person?

>>6282573

Kind of?

I am completely opposite of many. I had no doubts after it came down to Trump vs Hillary that Trump would win. I didn't fear for the election at all.

What has shocked and amazed me is President Trump's ability to usher in a return of American business, a nuanced understanding of markets vs finance, and the ability to potentially work us out of the federal reserve system without blowing up the whole works.

It is that which I find to be absolutely amazing. The closing off of the rogue CIA, the hopeful return to a market based economy that is looking good… I was almost certain that we would get another Bush-type of deal.

I know Bush jr is controversial - but I was in the military under both Bush and Obama, and there was far less corruption and far more cohesiveness to our mission under Bush. I can find fault with him, but I don't get "evil cabal bastard" out of him from the time I saw him.

Obama was like a bad used car salesman with a side of snake oil and a built-in payday loan service.

>>6282591

To some extent.

The muslims rarely invaded outright. Their conquest was more subversive. They would have communities form in regions and then have those communities begin to play on emotions - claiming discrimination and the like.

Before the whole "convert or die" phase kicked in, it was often after much of the civilization was already dealing with rampant gangs of muslim businesses and organizations holding economic and civil sway.

I would argue that is more evil than sending you a letter that says "unfuck yourself or catch a nuke to the face" - but as I said, we tend to judge morality based on the number of deaths rather than the manner of those deaths or the alternatives available to them.

>>6282621

I think people are expecting a lot out of President Trump that is indicative of a tribal mindset. Trump has become a tribal leader that humans are comfortable dealing with. We don't naturally think in terms if laws and process. We think in very tribalistic terms intuitively and compulsively.

We like our heroes - our arbiters - our fearless leaders and icons of nobility. And there is nothing really wrong with that, though there are possibilities beyond those ways of thinking.

Patriots point, we follow.

Many of the things that will be exposed are not going to have a clear process for reform. The CIA created a large number of front organizations that operated on behalf of many foreign groups, to include the British Royal Family. While that is a crime under the Constitution - what isn't exactly outlined is "okay… So…. How do we restructure things to help prevent that from happening?"

The FBI is a massive overstep and redundant organization that conflicts with the U.S. Marshals. Do we keep it… Redefine it… Get rid of it and reinforce the Marshals?

Many of these things aren't going to have a clear answer, and even if Q/team have a lot of mature ideas on how to do this, these things need to be presented to the public along with the issues and put through the process of discourse and legislation to be approved. It would be subverting the concept of our nation to have a group of nobility come through and make sweeping changes completely arbitrarily outside of the most dire of emergencies - and even then, such measures should be seen as emergency actions.

Replacing the federal reserve may take a decade - or it could happen very quickly. For example - cabal assets seized by the government could be swapped for junk bonds usually fed to retirement and pension accounts. The cabal would be forced to hold the bag for the market shift while being given a fair market value ahead of the fallout.

I am not really sure if that act is "good" or not - and there are certainly some implications for treason not being a blood or lineage offense - it isn't right to destroy a five year old's future because their father was a lizard. The point is, though, that there are some options available to Q and team that I hadn't prior considered when I first assessed that the market collapse was unavoidable and that Trump was walking into a trap.

Which also leads to a other point… Most people are good. As cynical as I can be and as frustrated as I can get with how people can't seem to be motivated to think beyond beer pong on Friday… The establishment of the cabal is a more frail structure than it appears. It has used brutal means to stay on top because it is unnatural for it to exist where it is. These are horrible, evil people who are at war with each other as much as they are at war with anyone else.

Well… Somewhat - the family is larger than the cabal, so there are people who are more just from an alien world of the abyss more so than evil - the mage families from Fate/Zero or the Martians from Aldnoah.Zero, for example. Some of them are heinous pricks. Many of them are alien to how the rest of us live - or may even look at it longingly (much as how the martians look at the common, simple life of Earth as one blessed by blue skies… I highly recommend the series as a bit of a symbolic analysis of the old clans vs the common world).

Anyway, I am getting off track and seeing ninjas in masks at the corner of my vision.

The cabal structure will not likely reform to its current scale. They have managed to preserve the status of "legendary conspiracy" that few take seriously. Exposing this as a point of historical fact, when the library can no longer be so easily burned and can be easily accessed by all … Makes it very difficult to envision a scenario where they would be able to return so easily.

As for "the end won't be for everyone" - I take this as being our inevitable RETURN to the stars. 2024 was, in a book I have yet to put to paper, unfortunately, the year when the war of armageddon ended we came face to face with a recon-in-force deployment from an alien species expecting to find the proverbial cabal in control. You'll note POTUS has us returning to the moon that year.

Not everyone will want to leave the planet and venture into space. I do not know for certain that this is what Q means. It could also mean that most people will, also, not want to really dig into the origins of our species and how their religions tie into those origins as well as the blood lines of the family.

>>6282775

Hmm…

Allow me to tell you a story of a boy who would become a dragon.

The boy was born on the verge of death to a father who searched long for a woman to build a family with, and a mother who wanted nothing more than to be the best mother she could be for her family. He grew up with a sense of awe and appreciation for those who would charge into danger - to take the risks society needed of people. From another aspect, he developed a deep appreciation for the engineering of military hardware. Nothing out there compares to military aircraft, and few things are as awe inspiring as explosions (apparently, there is a Megumin in us all).

His father met him with a response, when the bombs dropped over Montenegro, Serbia, and Kosovo, that largely confused him. His father, being a veteran of Vietnam and a very no-nonsense "the military is for breaking things" type of person, was not at all pleased with the course of events and said "It is nothing to be excited about. Right now, people are dying." It was a response that seemed absurd. That's what the military did - kill bad guys, why are we getting hung up on this?

There was a time, much later, after both his father and mother were gone, that he would find himself in the company of a masked ninja under the title of "Mokusei." There is a book that plays off that title, which I imagine is appropriate. This ninja, on occasion, would speak in a language of the Southern Slavs.

Now, Ninjas live in a world of lies - so it is next to impossible to know for certain how much of anything a ninja reveals is true. But - it's hard to believe people would bother to talk to each other in their idle time using nothing of the truth.

Said ninja was there on that day, huddled with family in a shelter, wondering if their father would return alive. There was no reason for the ninja to know of the importance that day held for the boy, or how that realization would completely reshape his understanding of his father's statement.

The ninja would drop by under different names and masks from time to time. It was impossible for the boy to not find a bit of romance in the situation - he can dream, right? And on occasion use a different mask to chastise him for some view or another. One in particular became laced with venom in relation to the Yugoslavian conflict. I will spare a rehash, but suffice to say that a guy who had been called a baby killer on a few occasions was not at receptive to an assertion without evidence that the U.S. was deliberately malicious. He would concede that we had no business in the region and likely made matters worse by our involvement - but there is a far cry from that and outright maliciousness.

A while later, he was researching the history of Al Qaeda and came across the records of AQ in Bosnia and Kosovo, as well as the arms running through the embassy in Croatia. Livid does not even begin to describe the emotion. It was bad enough the sand niggers had a point about the U.S. having out of control foreign policy - but this was not a simple dirty war gone awry or intelligence agencies thinking they had control over rogue operators. It was downright planned maliciousness.

It also framed a few things the ninja said in a different context, the reason the stories were inconsistent, and why people who should have been dead … Weren't.

The boy also noticed something. His family name pointed to a town in Austria. However, his father always told him that the name meant "keeper of the land." Since the name is "-er" - the German simply means "from" … But before the town was Austrian, it was Slovenian. Gradec, and not the one in Croatia. If this link is true, it would explain why the ninjas are at the corners of his vision from time to time. No doubt, it would be easier for a family closer to such things to be able to research family histories, as the boy is not nearly as gifted with multiple languages as the ninja.

Perhaps this is relevant. Perhaps it is simply an interesting story for the present to read. In any event, I generally try to be a friend to all good people, particularly those who can't see they are good in spite of the life they've found themselves in.