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MSNBC's Chris Hayes calls 8chan a "horrible dark organism of people…radicalizing each other"
Super creepy discussion. Below are mostly direct quotes of Chris Hayes trashing 8chan with ex-white supremicist who is now an "expert," Christian Picciolini.
https://youtu.be/_I5HMSqz5VU
Starts at 36:14.
CH:[Starts by talking about shooter in Poway. Then:]
It appears that he, like the mosque shooter in Christchurch NZ—and the Tree of Life shooter in Pittsburg—were radicalized online. There’s a pretty active digital subculture of white supremicists and neo-Nazis who might have come to the movement initially interested in making bad jokes and trolling in an online forum but later find themselves immersed in a violent, racist, anti-Semitic ideology. Christian is a reformed white nationalist who has made it his mission to help others escape that life. And he’s noticed certain patterns among those he’s trying to help.
CP: I’ve been working with extremists for nearly 20 years. In that time, I’ve noticed a behavior pattern that I call "cult hoping." It’s when vulnerable people are so desperate to fit in—to find a sense of identity or purpose—that they jump from one extreme group to another. Ideology isn’t as important as the desire to belong.
CH: Christian’s efforts to divert young white supremicists from this path are documented in a series called “Breaking Hate.” A second episode airs at 9 pm Sunday night here on MS-NBC. [Then he introduces CP on air and they continue along the same lines. He's the author of the book White American Youth.]
CP: Talks about “young marginalized people” looking for identify, community and purpose in life” (= 3 pillars in life]…who go to “the fringes” where “they find these narratives, and there are people waiting for them.”
CH: “How much have things changed [since you were active in a white supremacist group]”? CH specifically mentions 8chan as an example of a fringe group with this kind of ideology.
CP: [Says social media is like a “24 hour hate buffet where people can serve themselves.” Says he was recruited in person, but now “young people can be on a message board like 4chan or 8chan and start laughing at some of these memes and get de-sensitized by them. And then they’re sent to these other places where the rhetoric ramps up a little bit more, and where they’re told certain words, and if they don’t react in a certain way, if they use the N-word, recruiters are then keyed in as to whether they can take them a little bit further. If they start to laugh at those jokes.
CH talks about it being a “slow process of boundary pushing.”…….[repetitive, yadayadayada]
CP: And they know they’re not going to recruit everyone so they cast a wide net….talks again about the ones who laugh back at the anti-Semitic jokes or who aren’t fazed by them and how they “tighten the screws on them.”
CH gets really weird and begins to says it’s like it’s not even an active recruiter but some sort of “horrible dark organism of people sort of peer-to-peer radicalizing each other…..”
CPresponds by saying that actually somebody’s putting it out there: “So much of this is coming from Eastern Europe and from Russia. So many of these troll farms are putting out propaganda, from anti-vaccine stuff to flat-earth stuff to anti-Semitic tropes. Russia’s been known to do this since 1903, when they put out the fraudulent book
[wait for it anons!
''“The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”''
[There's a little moar from "Breaking Hate"–must be Episode 1…complete with creepy music and the story of a group responsible for 5 murders….whoa, whoa, whoa…..]
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THREE BIG POINTS:
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New MS-NBC series, ''Breaking Hate' airs 9 pm Sundays.
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Fantastic claim #1: that people are sent from 8chan to "these other places" where the rhetorical ramps up. [HUH???]
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Fantastic claim #2: "RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA"