Anonymous ID: 909d2b May 15, 2019, 4:52 p.m. No.6508681   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8691

>>6508660

It's a good discussion, but honestly it seems like "we" were all ok before being "sent" to the world.

 

I've been considering the Gnostic position, and maybe (my own twist) God cannot exactly directly affect this realm (pure physicality) and he needs us to make the vision of perfection in the pure spirit world a reality in the physical world.

 

All "he" can do is guide.

Anonymous ID: 909d2b May 15, 2019, 5:34 p.m. No.6508993   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>8997 >>9013

>>6508979

Maybe I've seen some weird shit in my life and my mind isn't closed. Just that the Bible never clicked with me. IF it is all revealed to be so, then it will be I suppose.

 

Until then, we're all still brothers in this mission.

Anonymous ID: 909d2b May 15, 2019, 5:38 p.m. No.6509019   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9060

>>6508999

Too many equally viable (or equally ridiculous) viewpoints out there. Not enough information.

 

My mind is what it is, which means if it's that important then the creator will adjust his message to satisfy us all to understand/accept the message. If not, that's kind of bullshit. Belief is not a conscious choice…criteria for belief is different depending on the individual.

 

Which is why the muslims claiming they will "convert" the whole world is absurd. All they will achieve is a bunch of people lying about believing.

Anonymous ID: 909d2b May 15, 2019, 5:51 p.m. No.6509120   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9127 >>9182

>>6509092

You are asserting, a priori, things which have not been proven nor are self evident. Spirit, demons, etc….you are starting from your conclusion (standard biblical framework) and working backwards to justify it.

Anonymous ID: 909d2b May 15, 2019, 5:59 p.m. No.6509179   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9193

>>6509161

I mean, a pardon is a pretty big deal. Trump doesn't do anything for no reason.

 

Most normies will be lost without the handholding of some kind of MSM. This guy probably knows his shit and can set something up quick.

Anonymous ID: 909d2b May 15, 2019, 6:05 p.m. No.6509230   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>6509193

All the way to SCOTUS

 

Supreme Court review

Main article: Black v. United States

 

The Supreme Court of the United States heard an appeal of his case on 8 December 2009[58] and rendered a decision in June 2010. Black's application for bail was rejected by both the Supreme Court and the U.S. District Court judge who sentenced him.[59]

 

On 24 June 2010, the US Supreme Court ruled 8–0 with one recusal, instructing the 7th Circuit to review all four of Black's convictions including the obstruction of justice charge, finding that the definition of honest services fraud used in Judge St. Eve's (the trial judge) charge to the jury in Black's case was too broad, "unconstitutionally vague",[60] ruling the law could apply only to cases where bribes and kickbacks had changed hands and ordered the US 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago to review three fraud convictions against Black in light of the Supreme Court's new definition. The Court reviewed Black's case and determined whether his fraud convictions stood or if there should be a new trial.[61] The Supreme Court upheld the jailed former media baron's obstruction-of-justice conviction, for which he was serving a concurrent 6½-year sentence.[62]

 

Vacated all convictions for being vague, but upheld onstruction charges.