>>7320195

I would contend that human nature is more complex than this. Take, for example, how people will respond to each other in a relationship (or an attempt at one). Most people are good - but we are living within what is an animal. We fully experience everything that animal would, normally, and have to process (or… Just act on instinct) our instincts against our ethics. Going on a sting of indulgent one-night stands after a break up that went ungracefully, for example, is both a natural reaction and a destructive one.

So is damning the engineer of a machine, that is difficult to work with, to the lowest tier of hell and promising to have him assemble cars with chopsticks coated in glycol for all eternity, while wishing you could thermite bomb the fucking thing through the concrete in a crater that would become a portal to the hell you will use to reign over people who make retarded designs.

See what I mean?

We have developed the institutions of society, customs, ethics, religions, and laws to provide ourselves and others with tools and consequences for managing the impulses of that animal component.

And not just the animal component. Just because I have good intentions and plans for a person doesn't really mean I can simply impose that plan on them. The divine component of humans can be just as troublesome, though not as obvious, as the animal component. We can't all be each others' god, and yet we are naturally inclined to assume this posture more so than many people realize.

Which is what it is - we have institutions for trying to assist in managing and codifying ourselves to achieve a more ideal state of living that provides as much freedom as possible while preventing the harm we can cause.

Most people are good and want to live in a good way - but it is naive to believe the raw, unrefined and undisciplined human is a force of good. While, obviously, our civilization arose from our nature - that includes our angels and our demons.

>>7320548

That is not at all how I view it.

There exist people in this world who hate it - despise it, and who think something awaits them in another world or some "higher consciousness."

It is Nihilism by another name. "The world means nothing."

I caution heavily against lingering in this mindset. Sure - the realization that the world is a fleeting thing is necessary to develop an understanding of spiritual purpose, but lingering on the idea that the world is a worthless or even negative place is a slide toward evil. If the world means nothing - why shouldn't I have a rape dungeon if I can afford to subvert law to have one? If the world is just a place of evil and we are all just cursed animals to be damned - then what is wrong with extreme forms of discipline or impressed labor? Why shouldn't I make servants of the sheeple and do something more meaningful with them than they would ever choose to do on their own?

People incorrectly assume that "evil" is an invalid or illogical frame of mind. It can be an insidiously rational, logical, and even productive frame of mind. We spend time talking about the pyramids slaves built. We have no fucking clue who the laborers were who built them. We speak of the kings - not of the people who did their bidding. If one wants to make the argument - the slaves' sacrifice of freedom created monuments far greater and more important to humanity than anything their freedom gave us. So what's the problem with it?

The idea that evil can be presented as ethical - and logically so, at that, is something rarely considered.

Why is it wrong or evil to enslave someone? How do we measure worth on a personal, cultural, and social level?

Good and evil have very little to do with the material world.

Which is more important?

If I told you that you could be free of all pain and give your life over to the service of a great spirit…

Or the lives and individuality of the people you've met in your time here?

Which one is "good?" … And is one of those views potentially "evil?"