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The only reason is to make them expend ammo. DS is holding out Carter/RBG/others as LONG as possible. In the meantime, any/all FFs they have left are going to sperg out.
DS is doing their best to hold out, and they can't. Q and team knows this, and are enticing the DS to move.
Sorry! Previos Bread on that link!
I was prodding a bit, last thread, on the anon coming close to fame fagging. Apparently, they attend Jentezen's church, and are a proponent of prosperity gospel. Check out the last thread, you'll know who I'm talking about.
Anyway, a majority of the pastors of these churches seem to barely know the Bible at times, but they use just enough of it to successfully categorize themselves as essentially Christian versions of Tony Robbins.
Even as a much younger Christian, I took issue with vicarious redemption. Prosperity Gospel seems to take vicarious redemption to its furthest logical conclusion. I'm not too sure how to feel about "leaving guilt on the floor" as a matter of belief in God, inasmuch as abandoning the idea of recompense with God through prayer for forgiveness of sin. However, it's abundantly apparent that @POTUS absolutely believes this (vid embedded) whole heartedly, and it's an interesting thought exercise.
Everyone that was ever raised in something remotely considered a "Christian" church knows that you need to confess (Catholic) your sins, or otherwise pray for forgiveness of sins (Protestant) as part of your "walk" with God. But if you watch this vid, Trump turns the idea of recompense/repent on top of it's head when he says "I'm not sure I have, I just try to go on and do a better job from there" (1:12 in).
If that's not a cornerstone of prosperity gospel, I don't know what is. The video that anon linked to me in response to my question "Where is the scriptural basis for prosperity gospel in the Bible" (after they initially called me a shill) was a sermon from Jentezen Franklin; and yes, he's a pastor of a mega church in Gainseville, GA. He's a spiritual adviser to @POTUS, and appears to adhere to prosperity gospel as well. In the video, Jentezen basically tells the congregation to leave guilt behind forever, and proceed boldly in your walk with God. This is something that makes 98% of Christians "cringe", and 100% of Pentacostals start praying in togues and rebuking them from the outset!
Q keeps telling us that those we've been taught to trust the most are liars, deceivers, and think of us as cattle. Check. Q works with the President, and not many here believe that to be a lie. Check. Well then, how far down does the subversion of our faith go? If many of us that have been brought up on "proper doctrine" have, ourselves, been teaching bad doctrine, then what is the real truth? Are anons willing to accept their interpretation of the Word is wholly upside down?
Here's the sermon anon from last bread linked. You'll have to judge for yourself, but there's a discussion about this that needs to happen in order to possibly clarify what things like Kanye mean to this movement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdGnzNg0z3w&feature=youtu.be
You're looking in reverse order, anon. Beck has a crap track record, and has hit a couple of points, lately, to stay relevant. I think it's overly obvious that Hannity is the closest to @POTUS.
Depends on your translation:
NIV:
>No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
That's an assumption. If you are truly "born of God", then you simply won't go on sinning ever again, amen. In other words, when you are truly born of God, you are perfect! Have a nice life! Yeah; k.
New Living Translation
>Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God.
Ah, so those that are truly born of God make it a point to not make a PRACTICE of sinning because the guilt they feel is a built-in moderator of behavior. As a matter of fact, it's a RULE they cannot keep sinning.
As you explore the other translations, you begin to realize that it's much less a philosophical "Christians cannot commit sin because God makes them invulnerable to it". It's more of a commandment to commit yourself to becoming repentant. It's that struggle to maintain piousness because salvation does indeed come by grace, not by works lest any man should boast.
2 Corinthians 5:17-21 is a case in POINT for being repentant.
See how confusing this gets?
That's a great piece of scripture to drive the point home. It does come with a caveat:
>who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit
Salvation comes by grace. Check.
Faith without works, though, is dead. Check.
In other words, you can't accept Christ, or believe in Christianity, and then continue on sinning. If you do sin, what then? This scripture says there is no condemnation, and that we are to continue pressing forward in our faith.
I like this. It also brings up an interesting point about how shills and even regular folks like to bring up the past in order to attack people that are in on the movement. If Jenna Jameson is a Q supporter, and perhaps even going (or has gone through) her own conversion in faith, then what right do any of us have to accuse her in the present for sins committed in the past?
Thank you for this.
Can't blame anons for discovering truth by wading through all the lies, and occasionally being deceived. I mean, it's the nature of the beast of discovery.
If Q wanted to just set everyone straight, they'd stop posting cryptic, and use plain English. Q's intent is self-discovery.
You're thinking of Q+
Guilt, as an emotion, can be a weight to individual progress; I get that. However, isn't it guilt that gives us the assurance that we've done something wrong? Where's the bad doctrine in acknowledging when you've committed and error in your ways?
Sure; repent, move on. But isn't repentance a part of the process? Prosperity Gospel seems to encourage skipping that step. It's just confusing, is all. Other anons have had good comments on this, and it seems a bit clearer, but still something I need to think on for a bit.
Thank you for the response! The Prayer of Jabez that I spoke about in the last thread to anons looking for prayer has had a similar affect on my life in terms of prosperity. I consider myself eternally blessed already. It's just when I see all the associations with people whose interpretation of Gospel seems "iffy", I get nervous.
In the end, whatever brings more people to God is what's important.
All valid points. It could also go the other way; especially for as many as have been witness to the mathematical impossibilities. But you make good points, nonetheless.