Anonymous ID: 675f43 Jan. 27, 2020, 8:20 p.m. No.7937192   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Thank you Baker for allowing me to correct my analysis lb that was in notables. We are the news and so must get it right.

 

A&P anon addendum to A&P anon's earlier analysis of Kobe Bryant crash. It IS possible for the rotor head to separate on the Sikorsky S76 model of AC; it has happened once before after a blade spar was damaged internally by a lightening strike, resulting in a crash and loss of life. If this happened again it might explain the unusually high speed that the craft was going when it hit the ground.

The maximum safe speed, VNE, Velocity Never Exceed, is 155knots or 178mph and reports show the AC was going 161knots, 185mph upon impact, which would have been totally irresponsible of the pilot under the foggy flight conditions. My earlier analysis focused on the conditions nessessary for this to happen, specifically that rotor head separation would have to happen allowing the fuselage to fall at high speed with little air resistance. This anon erroneously concluded that that was unlikely because blade failure normally does not result in complete separation of the rotor head leaving the fuselage to streamline into the ground. This particular type of AC CAN break the gearbox casing during blade failure and separate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bristow_Helicopters_Sikorsky_S-76A_crash

Anonymous ID: 675f43 Jan. 27, 2020, 9:05 p.m. No.7937602   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7614 >>7680 >>7697 >>7828

>>7937552

Did you read my first notable analysis? AC hit the ground going faster than VNE. No way pilot should have been going that fast even with good visibility. Heres my original analysis that was superseded by the above post.

 

As an A&P anon I will put in my 2 cents on the Kobe Bryant crash. This helicopter had a max cruise speed of 178mph which is also it's VNE, Velocity Never Exceed, yet reports are saying that the AC hit the ground at 161 knots or 185 mph. Now, if the pilot is feeling his way around in the fog how does he hit the ground at 185mph. He would be risking damage to the machine by simply exceeding VNE, something no pilot would do, especially if visibility was limited at all.

Freefall is also unlikely. A human being in an aerodynamic dive can't go that fast in free fall. A helicopter has way too much wind drag to hit that speed in free fall. Furthermore, helicopters almost never crash with much forward velocity at all. Watching a few YouTubes will show you how they usually crash.

Two other ways that this AC might hit the ground at that speed. One is if it had lost it's main rotor completely, as in a mid-air collision or a missile strike. Then it might become aerodynamic enough to plummet at that velocity. Choppers simply don't just LOSE their main rotors otherwise. Two, if the cyclic control was somehow jammed forward, the throttle was jammed and the pilot was too stupid to pull collective to raise the AC thereby bleeding off excesive airspeed and giving time for further action to be taken.

Also consider that this type of AC is equiped with Honeywell ground proximity warning system.

Flight recorder data would be the only way they could know the speed on impact as the AC was off of the radar.

Very unlikely the pilot flew into the ground at that speed unless it was deliberate or, possibly, if the main rotor had been separated by something like a missile.

https://pagesix.com/2020/01/27/kobe-bryants-helicopter-was-flying-dangerously-low-before-fatal-crash/

 

https://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_s76b_en.php

Anonymous ID: 675f43 Jan. 27, 2020, 9:38 p.m. No.7937838   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7870

>>7937820

That's fairly ridiculous; those wraps could not come off that easy or they would be dangerous at 178 mph. Never get FAA type certificate approval for use. Didn't burn off either or there would have been black goo all over it,

Anonymous ID: 675f43 Jan. 27, 2020, 9:42 p.m. No.7937864   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>7937830

Not, fake. the fuel quantity that was blamed has almost no voltage or current flow. It could not start a fire in kerosene. That crash has cover-up written all over it.

Anonymous ID: 675f43 Jan. 27, 2020, 9:44 p.m. No.7937882   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>7937830

Not, fake. the fuel quantity that was blamed has almost no voltage or current flow. It could not start a fire in kerosene. That crash has cover-up written all over it.>>7937870