How could you possibly know?
You a mind reader?
Serious question. With all of the disinformation and duplicitous tactics, there really is no way of knowing except for your feels.
Hillary
POTUS knows he is protected, not immortal.
Trump has put people in positions he knows are swamp,which is damn near all of them.
McMaster's, Tillerson, Vindman,etc.
VEEP is no different.
Pence was an establishment pick.
He stays loyal to POTUS on everything, in public.
But,who knows?