>>8160228 (lb)

There's a possible way to do it without abolishing central banking altogether: Nationalize it. Give the power of central banking to the treasury.

Someone wise once said: It's absurd that the government can print a dollar bond but not a dollar bill. The same principle that makes the bond good makes the bill good as well.

The problem is money made out of debt. When every dollar in existence is accompanied by an obligation to pay that back to the central bank plus more, then poverty rules the land because there isn't enough money in the world to pay the debts owed. So we have to fight against our neighbors and push them deeper into debt to get out of debt ourselves, guaranteeing poverty for all.

If the treasury prints the money, money is created and spent, not created and loaned at interest. Yes, more money exists and its value will decrease if too much is printed, beyond the increase in goods and services. But that is normal. It's not usury.

If a society wants to finance infrastructure, bridges, roads, space exploration, science and so on, it can do that without taxing anybody when the economy grows, by printing and spending the right amount of new money to match the growth in the economy.

Without that power, it's necessary for a taxman to go and confiscate gold or bitcoin or whatever commodity money there is from the hard working laborer who earned it and hoped to feed his family with it.

>>8160842

You want a gold standard?

The golden rule: Whoever has the gold makes the rules.

You want that?

>>8160859

>>8160842

What I'm saying is: Take control from them. Give it to the public. Make it serve the public interest.

>>8160880

Yes!

>>8160887

And if you say gold is money, you've given up your say.

>>8160917

Would you like to explain to us how you know that you got a response from someone you filtered?

Is the filter not working?

>>8160986

So you respond without knowing what you're replying to?

Are you sure that's wise?

>>8161007

Whether we're currently in a corrupt country or not, the principle of democracy is that the people get to decide what the law is.

So they get to decide what money is.

They don't get to decide when the sun rises or whether gold is valuable, but they get to decide whether gold is money.

Is that clear?

>>8161007

>>8161067

Question: Where does the word "money" come from?

Answer: From the Roman temple of Juno Moneta, where elliptical disks not made of gold were printed with a specific face value fixed by law and were declared by fiat to be the money that must be used in trade in the Roman Republic.

By creating real money and rejecting the power of the JEWISH money lenders, Rome became great and powerful, far exceeding all the nearby nations that adhered to the gold standard and consequently BEGGED THE JEWS FOR THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO EAT.

So, please tell me again about the wonderful gold standard.

>>8161150

Wrong. The dollar holds value because you must pay your taxes in dollars. So go and get some dollars and pay your taxes or go to jail.

>>8161167

No. If you make a profit in bitcoins or euros or barrels of oil, you have to pay your taxes. You have to calculate the dollar value of your income and pay tax on it whether you received dollars or not.

You can't escape taxes by being paid in other currencies or commodities.

>>8161213

Indeed. But it's not any harder to prosecute when it's been found.

The demand for dollars comes from this one source: Pay your taxes in dollars, regardless of whether you used dollars at all in your business, or become a criminal and face prison.

Everybody has to find dollars to give to Uncle Sam, so dollars are sought after.

>>8161248

Willful failure to file a tax return is a crime that you go to prison for. Wesley Snipes tried it.

>>8161224

We should. We should be allowed to have prosperity.

That means freedom from usury. Freedom from paying interest to Jewish money lenders. Not freedom from the obligation to help our fellow countrymen and women.

The problem is paying interest to money lenders. All money must be borrowed to come into existence. That is the problem. That must end. We, as a society, should not need to borrow what we, as a society, earn.

Certainly we shouldn't need to borrow it from Jewish bankers who create it by book-keeping entry (out of thin air).

>>8161224

My response didn't appear for some reason. Here's a crappy summary of what I said:

Yes, you've been screwed. But the solution is to stop screwing you, not let you screw everyone else.

>>8161257

No, they're your taxes. They pay for your roads and your safety and your postal services and your military.

Pay those taxes. You should. It's fair.

>>8161269

Thanks for teaching me about smoke and mirrors.

>>8161317

Stop the corruption then.

Do you want your roads and police and military

and post office to go away?

You need someone to police the politicians. Pay a little for that and you won't have to pay a lot to fund corrupt criminals.

>>8161329

Taxed at the pump but paid in dollars.

Look, I like the whole argument that maybe something fishy went on with the income tax and maybe something to do with it being apportioned means we don't have to pay it, but you're using the services that it pays for so pay the damn taxes.

Your own society isn't your enemy. The Jews are. It's as simple as that.

>>8161362

Thanks there, Mr Automatic Anti-Semitism Detector.

You're doing a darn good job.

>>8161421

Rome fell, after the Jews got their subhuman claws into it and it adopted the gold standard.

But on the bright side, the Empire survived, in Byzantium. There, civilization continued under Emperor Justinian.

This was a wonderful time for humanity. The evil inherent in the Jews was formally recognized. The fact that Jews are cruel and cannot be trusted to rule over non-Jews because of their abusiveness was recognized in law, called the Justinian Codex:

https://orthodoxwiki.org/Code_of_Justinian

That was truly humanity's golden age, until the hordes of orcish eastern sand-Jews called Muslims arrived, with their semitic cruelty and subhuman barbarism, and overran Byzantium, bringing the era of antiquity to an end and ushering in the dark ages.

>>8161509

Yeah well maybe the earth is hollow and Rome never happened, but the fact that most of the Western world speaks languages that derive from the Latin described by Cicero and the fact that a thousand years of European history is consistently recorded in Latin documents in multiple countries in thousands of libraries and universities and monasteries and that Germanic and Celtic translations of these documents and independent records in those other languages corroborate the very well recorded history of Europe seem to me to indicate that you'd have to be pretty poorly educated to think it was all a big mistake and some speculation by some guy on the other side of the world with no education and no documentation was more likely to be correct.

>>8161539

Did that come of as arrogant as I was hoping it would? (:

>>8161570

Right. I forgot about medicine.

Mea culpa.