Anonymous ID: 81aea1 Feb. 27, 2020, 7:01 p.m. No.8270519   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>0578 >>0603 >>0611 >>0731 >>0753

>>8270304

Money is only a tool of barter. Working for it is no shame, most of us who do are responsible for sheltering our families.

That’s my driving force, I do have investments but not all in stocks, I own 40 acres farm with livestock and have passive income from five rental properties.

All earned through the industry of mine and spouses efforts.

I disagree with what appears as your expressed position that people who are invested in the markets are somehow worshipping money.

I see it as people managing what they worked for.

I have been very fortunate in the markets, my gains way out perform my losses, but I manage it myself. I used to set it and forget it. With managed accounts.

Anyway I don’t personally measure success by my material possessions but they are blessings and by Gods design we are tasked with being good stewards with those blessings.

Managing investments wether it be stocks, property, business, farming, commodities is the blessing of work.

Idol hands are the devil’s tool.

My oldest daughter is an MD I was happy to be a ble to support her in getting her education. It took money to do it, my other three kids are all college graduates and are successful to various degrees. It took investments of Time, work, money, love and blessings to do it.

It’s the love of money that is the root of all evil.

If you use money as it’s intended purpose which is only a tool for barter, and place your love in the people you are tasked to care for there is no greater reward or blessing than that.

Anonymous ID: 81aea1 Feb. 27, 2020, 7:21 p.m. No.8270731   🗄️.is đź”—kun

>>8270519

So what would you propose to be a form of trade for commerce?

The farmer delivers the groceries to market, the butcher cuts the meats, you Doctors help people get well, carpenters build, electricians, plumbers, tradesmen of all industry build craft make products. Except lawyers and politicians of course…KEK…What do we use to trade with?

We could use seashells if everyone agreed that sea shells have value.

The point is it really doesn’t really matter what the object is that a society determines has common value. In any trade all parties have to be content with the outcome of the trade. We use greenbacks that are virtually worthless but ironically society has agreed that a printed inked up piece of paper has a common value. I’m old enough to remember when the gold standard was finally eliminated and we went with the GDP.

No worries though as long as the FED creates fiat money with made up ones and zeros and society doesn’t panic when they figure out its all worthless we will continue to use the current method.

I would be happy to see the gold standard returned.

Have you ever read Ayn Rands book Atlas Shrugged? That would be an ideal outcome but unrealistic to expect.

I’m curious how you would fix your perfect world.

Anonymous ID: 81aea1 Feb. 27, 2020, 7:24 p.m. No.8270753   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>0809

>>8270578

Replied to my own post instead of yours…hey I’m old…kekek

 

>>8270519 (You)

So what would you propose to be a form of trade for commerce?

The farmer delivers the groceries to market, the butcher cuts the meats, you Doctors help people get well, carpenters build, electricians, plumbers, tradesmen of all industry build craft make products. Except lawyers and politicians of course…KEK…What do we use to trade with?

We could use seashells if everyone agreed that sea shells have value.

The point is it really doesn’t really matter what the object is that a society determines has common value. In any trade all parties have to be content with the outcome of the trade. We use greenbacks that are virtually worthless but ironically society has agreed that a printed inked up piece of paper has a common value. I’m old enough to remember when the gold standard was finally eliminated and we went with the GDP.

No worries though as long as the FED creates fiat money with made up ones and zeros and society doesn’t panic when they figure out its all worthless we will continue to use the current method.

I would be happy to see the gold standard returned.

Have you ever read Ayn Rands book Atlas Shrugged? That would be an ideal outcome but unrealistic to expect.

I’m curious how you would fix your perfect world.

Anonymous ID: 81aea1 Feb. 27, 2020, 7:28 p.m. No.8270787   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>0807

>>8270603

Thank you for your service fren, I’m a Vet too, served ten years in the Seabees learned a valuable trade put it to work, started a business, bought the farm, married well the second time around, and have been blessed more than I deserve.

I hope nothing but the best for you but don’t sell yourself short, you have some that hat can be marketable as a skill, or you can always learn it.

Don’t let the old man in as Clint Eastwood was quoted to say.

Anonymous ID: 81aea1 Feb. 27, 2020, 7:48 p.m. No.8270975   🗄️.is đź”—kun   >>1005

>>8270809

It may be that I am truly an optimistic so I see more good than bad with our system of trade.

 

I can’t envision a form of trade or barter that works better than when a society agrees to place value on a single object that can be used for any type of commerce trading.

 

I have and will probably still do trades with people, say a gun I want traded with someone who likes a gun I have but often times something else has to enter the barter to make it equal.

 

Anyway I don’t think we will ever exist in a utopia.