Anonymous ID: 1666e1 March 22, 2020, 3:53 p.m. No.8522763   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2929

Can the President use the military to hold tribunals of US citizens?

If courts of justice are CLOSED, the Executive has a duty to provide for the execution of the laws through the powers afforded to them as Commander in Chief.

 

Lincoln held Military Tribunals to deal with insurrection and disloyalty, even in places where there was no war, including in non-rebelling states. He was found to have exceeded the limits of his authority. The Supreme Court Decision in this case, Ex Parte Milligan, describes the circumstances in which the President can use troops, (Title 32 NG supported by Active Duty) on US soil.

 

The entire case lies on whether the courts are considered open or not.

 

Facts:

Lambdin P. Milligan was arrested by the command of General Alvin P. Hovey for certain charges that are not discussed. He was taken into custody and sentenced to be hanged. He petitioned to the Circuit Court of the United States for the District of Indiana to be discharged from his imprisonment.

 

Issue

Does the military have jurisdiction to try and convict Lambdin P. Milligan?

 

Holding

No, the military does not have jurisdiction over Lambdin P. Milligan because they courts were open and able to hear cases.

 

Reasoning

The Constitution says that everybody is entitled to a trial by jury. The Constitution specifically states, “in all criminal prosecutions the accused shall enjoy the righto a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed…” Our founding fathers put those words into the Constitution because they wanted everybody to have fair treatment when fighting their case.

 

The military only has power to control the judicial branch when the courts are not open and the people are in immediate danger. Indiana was one of the states that were not being rebellious. Therefore, the military did not have authority to act as a court and have trials. This is one of Milligan’s rights that were violated. Milligan was also denied a trial by jury. He was tried and convicted by a military commission.

 

Martial law can only exist when judicial law does not. These two do not coexist. Martial law is defined as when the “commander of an armed force… has the power… to suspend all civil rights and their remedies, and subject citizens… to the rule of his will…” Martial law can only be used when the courts are closed and society is in an uproar. Martial law cannot be applied to this case unless the dangers were in the state of Indiana. There must be an invasion that is “present and actual” in order for martial law to apply. Just a threat is not enough to apply martial law. Thus, the military had no authority to try and convict Lambdin P. Milligan.

 

are not available to the people, then it is the Executive's duty to provide them using the tools provided which includes federal troops.

 

http://www.casebriefsummary.com/ex-parte-milligan/

Anonymous ID: 1666e1 March 22, 2020, 4:02 p.m. No.8523015   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3054 >>3188

>>8522912

Sessions = AG = BB

 

Will BB effectively close the courts by closing the prosecutor's offices of the DOJ? If the state has no representative, no case can be heard, right?

 

This paves the way for military tribunals wherever the courts are "closed". Probably in those cities where the NG is building hospitals.

Anonymous ID: 1666e1 March 22, 2020, 4:05 p.m. No.8523102   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3139 >>3229

>>8522929

On US soil? US citizens? No. Read Ex Parte Milligan again. It is the presiding case law and is very much still "in effect".

 

The Constitution says that everybody is entitled to a trial by jury. The Constitution specifically states, “in all criminal prosecutions the accused shall enjoy the righto a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed…” Our founding fathers put those words into the Constitution because they wanted everybody to have fair treatment when fighting their case.

 

The military only has power to control the judicial branch when the courts are not open and the people are in immediate danger.

Anonymous ID: 1666e1 March 22, 2020, 4:13 p.m. No.8523277   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>8523139

The two cannot exists side by side in the same jurisdiction.

 

The military can only establish jurisdiction in the absence of the extant legal jurisdiction.

 

Ex Parte Milligan

Justice David Davis, who delivered the majority opinion, stated that "martial rule can never exist when the courts are open" and confined martial law to areas of "military operations, where war really prevails", and when it was a necessity to provide a substitute for a civil authority that had been overthrown.